Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 30 minutes ago, Daniel said: Welp, 3-0 allowed for more wishful thinking than Dolphins typically get in any particular season. It really is a matter of waiting for the Pats dynasty to end before any other team in the AFC East is worth watching again. I find NFL football in general not to be that great to watch these days. The game is just horribly unbalanced (defenses are more unsure now more than ever what they can actually do without getting flagged) and officiating is all over the place. Do I still watch? Sure. But it just doesn't feel like "football" to me...I get that certain things had to change for the sake of player safety, but 43-40 and 38-31 track meets just feels off. As do constant 300-yard passing games and QB numbers more bloated than ever. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted October 22, 2018 Author Share Posted October 22, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, MadDog2020 said: Every season is the same. Nothing ever changes. Also, Wilson and Stills both went down yesterday, Wilson probably for the season, adding to the unending list of injuries to key players. They are gonna get absolutely torched in Houston Thursday night. It’s gonna be painful. I'm more concerned with Stills missing time than Wilson. Wilson has had some awesome plays obviously, but the biggest ones were trick plays that only work a few times in a season. There's also enough redundancy with Amendola and Grant, and you could even, gasp, split out Drake every once in a while. And maybe Parker finally takes off the diapers and does something, even if it's just to up his trade value a little. The other rumor is that Amari Cooper is on the trade block. Supposedly, Oakland is asking for a first, but I imagine that drops to a second. If by some miracle, the Dolphins are still in the playoff hunt by then, I'd make that trade. EDIT: And for my latest crazy idea, what do you think the Giants would give us for Tannehill if Herbert stays in college another year as has been reported? Edited October 22, 2018 by Daniel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted October 22, 2018 Author Share Posted October 22, 2018 Welp, Cooper just traded to Dallas for their 1st, so there goes that idea and my belief that he wouldn't bring back that much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 2 hours ago, Daniel said: EDIT: And for my latest crazy idea, what do you think the Giants would give us for Tannehill if Herbert stays in college another year as has been reported? A ham sandwich and a 6-pack of Rolling Rock. 38 minutes ago, Daniel said: Welp, Cooper just traded to Dallas for their 1st, so there goes that idea and my belief that he wouldn't bring back that much. A 1 for Cooper lmfao. Jerry Jones is such a clown. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'7' Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 On 10/22/2018 at 3:15 PM, Daniel said: Welp, Cooper just traded to Dallas for their 1st, so there goes that idea and my belief that he wouldn't bring back that much. Your belief is correct. A 1 for Cooper is absurd but Jerry Jones sometimes does absurd things. I would've given up the 3 we got for Bridgewater for Cooper but I would outright reject even a 2 for him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'7' Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 (edited) On 10/22/2018 at 1:38 PM, Daniel said: I'm more concerned with Stills missing time than Wilson. Wilson has had some awesome plays obviously, but the biggest ones were trick plays that only work a few times in a season. There's also enough redundancy with Amendola and Grant, and you could even, gasp, split out Drake every once in a while. And maybe Parker finally takes off the diapers and does something, even if it's just to up his trade value a little. The other rumor is that Amari Cooper is on the trade block. Supposedly, Oakland is asking for a first, but I imagine that drops to a second. If by some miracle, the Dolphins are still in the playoff hunt by then, I'd make that trade. EDIT: And for my latest crazy idea, what do you think the Giants would give us for Tannehill if Herbert stays in college another year as has been reported? I could see the Giants having interest in Tannehill as a potential stop gap that could develop into a long term answer for them. Thing is they do have Lauletta and may just decide to roll with him in 2019 and stockpile the picks . Tannehill (and I think the cost would be a 2nd&5th) would mean the Giants are looking at a retool and an immediate turnaround, but I think they may he hunkering down for a long and painful rebuild. Giants are headed for some dark dark years. Edited October 24, 2018 by '7' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted October 24, 2018 Author Share Posted October 24, 2018 2 hours ago, '7' said: I could see the Giants having interest in Tannehill as a potential stop gap that could develop into a long term answer for them. Thing is they do have Lauletta and may just decide to roll with him in 2019 and stockpile the picks . Tannehill (and I think the cost would be a 2nd&5th) would mean the Giants are looking at a retool and an immediate turnaround, but I think they may he hunkering down for a long and painful rebuild. Giants are headed for some dark dark years. Depending on their cap situation, a Rams like turn around isn't out of the question. Meaning, it wouldn't happen immediately, but after a season or two, things just click. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'7' Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Buffalo won't win this game because they are an abomination but holding it to 12-6 well into the 4th Q is pretty impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 12 hours ago, '7' said: Buffalo won't win this game because they are an abomination but holding it to 12-6 well into the 4th Q is pretty impressive. They played very hard, and their crowd was everything you'd want a home crowd to be. Unfortunately for them, their QBs just give them damned near no chance to win right now...but when they get some breaks, they can definitely surprise some teams...just ask the Vikings. I'm sure the Titans are wondering how the hell they lost too. The Bills do compete. Saw a mention of the current crop of rookie QBs in the Jets thread, and I don't know how anyone can really judge these guys based off these samples...there's just not enough games yet. It's definitely easier to have more success quicker now as a rookie QB than it was back in the day (they usually looked pretty awful that first year), but it's still VERY difficult for most guys to not have that year on the bench (like Mahomes did) to take everything in and to have to learn right away as you go. It used to be around Year 3 or 4 (for QBs who jumped right into starting slots) that you'd be able to see what you really had...now it's more Year 2 that you expect to see significant progress, with some guys already looking very polished...with Year 3 being the "OK, now this guy should be pretty close to being what he'll be from here on out, if he's not already" season (as long as enough other pieces are in place). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevs4978 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 A lot of the recent guys that have jumped in year two like Goff and Trubisky also had coaching changes to more offensive minded head coaches and it looks like the Browns are going the same way. God help us if the Jets don’t fire Bowles and/or get another defense first coach to replace him. Bruce Coslet might have been the last legit offensive coach they hired..three DECADES ago. And he was a second choice to Holmgren who snubbed us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'7' Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 (edited) 10 hours ago, NJDevs4978 said: A lot of the recent guys that have jumped in year two like Goff and Trubisky also had coaching changes to more offensive minded head coaches and it looks like the Browns are going the same way. God help us if the Jets don’t fire Bowles and/or get another defense first coach to replace him. Bruce Coslet might have been the last legit offensive coach they hired..three DECADES ago. And he was a second choice to Holmgren who snubbed us. And the conservative three yards and a cloud of dust offensive coordinators we've employed to go along wit them. Tony Sparano, Paul Hackett. Brian Schottenheimer was not Mr. Creative either and a lot of his fathers super conservative tendencies crept in with him as well. I don't know what's the cutoff regarding wins and Bowles coming back, but I get the feeling if it's 7-9 he returns. Anything worse and he's gone Edited October 31, 2018 by '7' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'7' Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 (edited) 11 hours ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said: They played very hard, and their crowd was everything you'd want a home crowd to be. Unfortunately for them, their QBs just give them damned near no chance to win right now...but when they get some breaks, they can definitely surprise some teams...just ask the Vikings. I'm sure the Titans are wondering how the hell they lost too. The Bills do compete. Saw a mention of the current crop of rookie QBs in the Jets thread, and I don't know how anyone can really judge these guys based off these samples...there's just not enough games yet. It's definitely easier to have more success quicker now as a rookie QB than it was back in the day (they usually looked pretty awful that first year), but it's still VERY difficult for most guys to not have that year on the bench (like Mahomes did) to take everything in and to have to learn right away as you go. It used to be around Year 3 or 4 (for QBs who jumped right into starting slots) that you'd be able to see what you really had...now it's more Year 2 that you expect to see significant progress, with some guys already looking very polished...with Year 3 being the "OK, now this guy should be pretty close to being what he'll be from here on out, if he's not already" season (as long as enough other pieces are in place). I was impressed with McCoy as well. Still has a world of talent but late in his career he's totally wasting his time in Buffalo right now. They really should've moved him this deadline You're right about how quickly young QB's turn into impact players relative to past years. Also has to do with just how slanted the league is towards offense. QB's nowadays don't have to make 12-15 tight window throws like in the past but maybe only a handful per game. Every game has receivers making circus catches aided by ridiculous sticky gloves. It's cartoonish Though the league does adjust to guys who take it by storm and if you don't put the work in the league will swallow you up and you'll be done. Derek Anderson, Josh Freeman, Matt Flynn, Vince Young, RG3 etc Edited October 31, 2018 by '7' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muevelos Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 This Tampa team is sooo different with Fitz at the Helm then Winston.. much better with Fitz..so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevs4978 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 From South Florida today (and not after that dopey game in Miami that set football back twenty years): 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 13 hours ago, NJDevs4978 said: From South Florida today (and not after that dopey game in Miami that set football back twenty years): Love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muevelos Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 The Pats aren't a good team. Brady is 41 and can win you gamea, but it's asking to much at this point, the team itself sucks without him. They are headed for a very very very rude Awakening when Brady hangs it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 Pats really haven't had a good defense in a long time. Brady's covered up for a lot there through the years. They'll still likely win their division, but I think KC will eat them for lunch if they have to go to Arrowhead come playoff time. And this run isn't going to last forever...it's already been insanely long. Not like it wasn't successful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muevelos Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 True. The division has been garbage for a long time to. Everything must come to an end at some point. Still can't be they dealt Cooks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted November 12, 2018 Author Share Posted November 12, 2018 Wonder if Dallas would trade for Tannehill? Don’t know if their cap situation would permit it, but he’d be a good fit there I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevs4978 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 I really don't get what happened to the Eagles this season...yeah Super Bowl hangover but to lose all the close games like this? The Skins are literally going to walk to the division at 8-8 without an offensive line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 14 hours ago, CarterforPresident said: True. The division has been garbage for a long time to. Everything must come to an end at some point. Still can't be they dealt Cooks Every now and then BB has to do something just to prove how smart he is. Dealing Cooks was just asinine. I think TB and BB are still working together almost exclusively due to past success, but I think their relationship is pretty frayed now. They've done their best to keep that under wraps, but I think they're plenty sick of each other now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 11 hours ago, Daniel said: Wonder if Dallas would trade for Tannehill? Don’t know if their cap situation would permit it, but he’d be a good fit there I think. Why the hell would they do that? They have a QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted November 12, 2018 Author Share Posted November 12, 2018 25 minutes ago, MadDog2020 said: Why the hell would they do that? They have a QB. Dak stinks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 Just now, Daniel said: Dak stinks He’s a lot better than Tannehill though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted November 12, 2018 Author Share Posted November 12, 2018 28 minutes ago, MadDog2020 said: He’s a lot better than Tannehill though. You know I've never been a Tannehilll fanboy, but I'm going to go ahead and disagree with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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