Devs3cups Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 5 minutes ago, mfitz804 said: Unfortunately, that would never happen. Of course not. Hence the after my content. Hahaha alright, I mean you could've already been there and just hated Quebecers, some people do lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 7 minutes ago, Devs3cups said: Hahaha alright, I mean you could've already been there and just hated Quebecers, some people do lol Nope, I break everyone’s balls equally across the board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devs3cups Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 3 minutes ago, mfitz804 said: Nope, I break everyone’s balls equally across the board. Fair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagknife Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Surprisingly a big week of hockey events. 2 days until we find out if Hallsy is properly rewarded for his insane season and if Boyle gets his recognition for kicking cancer in the taint. 4 days we find out who our next draft pick is. Sorry but the days right now are long and horrendously slow for me, I’ll take anything hockey that I can that isn’t a debate over which province/city sucks more 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Good point. More interested in the awards at this point than the draft pick. Not expecting we’ll know anything about whoever is picked #17 and whether they’ll be NHL material for a while. The awards will be instant gratification (or disappointment). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck the Duck Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 18 hours ago, MadDog2020 said: Here’s the kind of thing I’m talking about with regards to the Rag rivalry that out of town fans would normally not know about- this is the rink right near my hometown. This is unacceptable. The Devils need to do something about this. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Skylands is a sh!thole. That said, they aren't the only rink in north jersey pulling this crap. Protec Ponds in Somerset also partners with the Rags, and hosts their learn to skate program during the winter. Nothing you can do to stop this from happening, but you know if it was the other way around, the Rags would be bitching about the Devils invading their territory. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Skylands is a sh!thole. That said, they aren't the only rink in north jersey pulling this crap. Protec Ponds in Somerset also partners with the Rags, and hosts their learn to skate program during the winter. Nothing you can do to stop this from happening, but you know if it was the other way around, the Rags would be bitching about the Devils invading their territory. Oh you know those a$$holes would complain. Maybe it’s time for the Devils to turn the tables and give it a shot. Give these rinks some incentives to partnering with them or something, I don’t know. But regardless of who owns these rinks and who they’re a fan of, the Devils (if they haven’t already) should reach out to these Rag rinks and see if there’s anything they can offer to make it worth the owners’ while. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevsMan84 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 From what I have heard from several people who work at these rinks, the Rangers just flat out have a more robust program for these rinks. This is less on the Rangers and more on the Devils to get feet on the streets to visit these places, sell them on partnering with the Devils and then the Devils following through both with $ and with manpower. Can't blame the rinks of the Rangers are out there offering their services while the Devils are just turning a blind eye to it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 From what I have heard from several people who work at these rinks, the Rangers just flat out have a more robust program for these rinks. This is less on the Rangers and more on the Devils to get feet on the streets to visit these places, sell them on partnering with the Devils and then the Devils following through both with $ and with manpower. Can't blame the rinks of the Rangers are out there offering their services while the Devils are just turning a blind eye to it. If what those people are telling you is true, then the Devils need to man up here. NJ is Devils country. They need to step up. I sincerely hope someone with the team sees this, as I know they read some of the Devils message boards that are out there. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chuck the Duck Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 2 hours ago, DevsMan84 said: From what I have heard from several people who work at these rinks, the Rangers just flat out have a more robust program for these rinks. This is less on the Rangers and more on the Devils to get feet on the streets to visit these places, sell them on partnering with the Devils and then the Devils following through both with $ and with manpower. Can't blame the rinks of the Rangers are out there offering their services while the Devils are just turning a blind eye to it. That's true. The Devils have done a better job these last few years, but they don't invest in grassroots community efforts at the same level as teams like the Rags and Flyers and it hurts them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 That's true. The Devils have done a better job these last few years, but they don't invest in grassroots community efforts at the same level as teams like the Rags and Flyers and it hurts them. They need to start. Lou’s been gone three years. There are no more excuses.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevils1214 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 (edited) 24 minutes ago, MadDog2020 said: They need to start. Lou’s been gone three years. There are no more excuses. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk It starts with having a truly competitive team for the first time in years and bringing the casual fans back. Last year was a great start. I'm really curious about the population NHL fans in the state.I would be surprised if the Devils even had 1/3 of that. I always feel like it's 2 or 3 to 1 rags to everything else. Edited June 18, 2018 by NJDevils1214 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilsfan118 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 34 minutes ago, MadDog2020 said: They need to start. Lou’s been gone three years. There are no more excuses. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk In fairness, it'll take a long while to repair the 'damage' Lou did as far as PR/marketing is concerned. Maybe damage isn't the right word, but I feel like the Devils started at.. nothing. The ground floor. So far I'm liking what I'm seeing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevsMan84 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 14 minutes ago, NJDevils1214 said: It starts with having a truly competitive team for the first time in years and bringing the casual fans back. Last year was a great start. I'm really curious about the population NHL fans in the state.I would be surprised if the Devils even had 1/3 of that. I always feel like it's 2 or 3 to 1 rags to everything else. I don't think having a competitive team really relates to why these rinks don't get the support of the Devils. By and large I do not think the rinks care where they get this support from just as long as they get what they perceive to get the "best bang for their buck" in terms of the professional team providing services (free clinics, merchandise, promotions, etc). Devils are way behind the Rangers in that respect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevsMan84 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 41 minutes ago, MadDog2020 said: They need to start. Lou’s been gone three years. There are no more excuses. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I can imagine some of these rinks sign agreements with these NHL teams for this sort of stuff. Maybe it will just take more time until the Devils can swoop in once the Ranger deals are done? I could be dead wrong and the Devils are just still slacking at this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevsMan84 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 7 minutes ago, Devilsfan118 said: In fairness, it'll take a long while to repair the 'damage' Lou did as far as PR/marketing is concerned. Maybe damage isn't the right word, but I feel like the Devils started at.. nothing. The ground floor. So far I'm liking what I'm seeing. Devils have 3 main owners before the current group of guys; McMullen who was too cheap to market the team, YankeeNets who didn't care to market, and JVB who couldn't afford to market. The Devils are literally about 30 years behind where they should be. Considering that in 3 years the new ownership group has done a TON to bridge that gap. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, DevsMan84 said: Devils have 3 main owners before the current group of guys; McMullen who was too cheap to market the team, YankeeNets who didn't care to market, and JVB who couldn't afford to market. The Devils are literally about 30 years behind where they should be. Considering that in 3 years the new ownership group has done a TON to bridge that gap. Well said, and I think there's a pretty good chance they'll get there sooner than people think. While I imagine part of it was an absence makes the heart grow fonder kind of thing, we saw real sell outs in the first round of the playoffs when it looked like we were going to get swept. Still I think a lot of is due to improved marketing. Even as recently as 2012, there were a lot of empty seats in the first round despite what the team officially announced. And it doesn't take that much. How many rinks are we talking about 5 or 6. For less than the salary of one guy who sits in the press box most nights, you could make them all affiliated with the Devils. Edited June 18, 2018 by Daniel 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemarc1 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Trotz done in Washington. Wowza. He’s stepping down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Yeah, and apparently he actually had some kind of automatic extension if he won the Cup, but apparently they couldn't agree on $. Meet your new head coach of the Isles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilsfan118 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Don't get this one. Give the guy what he wants. He couldn't have been asking for a Babcock contract, right? 1 minute ago, Daniel said: Yeah, and apparently he actually had some kind of automatic extension if he won the Cup, but apparently they couldn't agree on $. Meet your new head coach of the Isles. Ffs.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevils1214 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 52 minutes ago, DevsMan84 said: I don't think having a competitive team really relates to why these rinks don't get the support of the Devils. By and large I do not think the rinks care where they get this support from just as long as they get what they perceive to get the "best bang for their buck" in terms of the professional team providing services (free clinics, merchandise, promotions, etc). Devils are way behind the Rangers in that respect. Having a competitive team helps build interest and develop a larger more robust fan base(see Lightning's success in Florida). These are the people rinks try to attract and appeal to with the NHL partnerships. It's partly to do with what you said about the services, but also about appealing to a market. North Jersey is filled with Rags fans and NY transplants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevsMan84 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 8 minutes ago, NJDevils1214 said: Having a competitive team helps build interest and develop a larger more robust fan base(see Lightning's success in Florida). These are the people rinks try to attract and appeal to with the NHL partnerships. It's partly to do with what you said about the services, but also about appealing to a market. North Jersey is filled with Rags fans and NY transplants. These rinks don't care about which team they are partnering with them, they care about which one is going to do the most in their partnership. In that case the Devils are still way behind the Rangers. I think you are looking at this the wrong way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevils1214 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 8 minutes ago, DevsMan84 said: These rinks don't care about which team they are partnering with them, they care about which one is going to do the most in their partnership. In that case the Devils are still way behind the Rangers. I think you are looking at this the wrong way. Agree to disagree. Whether it's through the services provided or team support/marketing, in the end it's all about revenue generation and I think that goes to the Rags anyway you cut it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muevelos Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Not surprising that Trotz is no longer there. Best of luck to him elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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