Steadevils Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 13 hours ago, Daniel said: Unless Ray, et al. really thinks that DuClair or these second tier free agents have some serious upside that no other team in the league sees, I hope not. We have plenty of forward depth that is young and controllable that we don’t need fillers in free agency, or the need go after reclamation projects like DuClair or Yakupov. What the team needs is more impact players. And I’m hopeful that Ray is trying to obtain them. For all his talk about not going crazy on free agents, people forget something else he said that the window for most teams to compete for a Cup, especially if you don’t have a McDavid or Crosby, is narrower than people think, so you can’t continue to rely on the draft. I don't think bringing in a DuClair/Rieder/Sheahan blocks any of our young forward depth. We have Hayes, Grabner, Maroon, Gibbons, and Stafford to replace on the active roster. I think we need some second tier free agents and ones on the younger side would be my preference because if you get lucky you have a long term answer to fit in with the future. But I do agree that I will defer to the professional scouts on if any of these guys fit that mold. I do agree that the cup window is small, so filling holes now with potential long term solutions is a way to open it up. I see a "Hall as a star for the next 6 year" window then hopefully Nico overlaps that as a star and then can open a new window of his own as a top flight star. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LittleBallofHate Posted June 27, 2018 Author Share Posted June 27, 2018 This was retweeted by a few hockey people I follow so it's on the up & up... not sure why they'd want him - he's really not very good: Mark Madden @MarkMaddenX Defenseman Jack Johnson has agreed to a 5-yr deal w/the Penguins. Will become official Sunday when NHL free agency officially begins. For more, tune in to @1059theX . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 6 minutes ago, LittleBallofHate said: This was retweeted by a few hockey people I follow so it's on the up & up... not sure why they'd want him - he's really not very good: Mark Madden @MarkMaddenX Defenseman Jack Johnson has agreed to a 5-yr deal w/the Penguins. Will become official Sunday when NHL free agency officially begins. For more, tune in to @1059theX . Tri's mentioned that JJ hasn't been very good a number of times through the years...think he either posted actual numbers or links to numbers that weren't very flattering to Johnson IIRC. Kinda makes one wonder who the Pens were bidding against to give him five years, and for potential decline years to boot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevils1214 Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 25 minutes ago, LittleBallofHate said: This was retweeted by a few hockey people I follow so it's on the up & up... not sure why they'd want him - he's really not very good: Mark Madden @MarkMaddenX Defenseman Jack Johnson has agreed to a 5-yr deal w/the Penguins. Will become official Sunday when NHL free agency officially begins. For more, tune in to @1059theX . How are these backdoor style negotiations possible? I thought you weren't allowed to speak to FAs until the FA period started on July 1st. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleBallofHate Posted June 27, 2018 Author Share Posted June 27, 2018 19 minutes ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said: Tri's mentioned that JJ hasn't been very good a number of times through the years...think he either posted actual numbers or links to numbers that weren't very flattering to Johnson IIRC. Kinda makes one wonder who the Pens were bidding against to give him five years, and for potential decline years to boot. Here's a Todd Cordell chart: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleBallofHate Posted June 27, 2018 Author Share Posted June 27, 2018 4 minutes ago, NJDevils1214 said: How are these backdoor style negotiations possible? I thought you weren't allowed to speak to FAs until the FA period started on July 1st. They changed it last year I believe - starting one week prior to July 1, teams are allowed to talk with impending UFAs but they're not supposed to talk actual $/contracts until July 1... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PacificDevil Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 18 hours ago, mfitz804 said: If he was awful enough to sign for $1.5-2m, I might give him a year to prove himself. Guy still scored 27 goals last year. That’s more than anyone on our team aside from Hall. At that price, for one year, I’d be willing to chance it that the last 21 games with us were the anomaly. You could always waive him or whatever, nothing ventured nothing gained. But someone else will give him 2-3 years for more money, I’m sure. Right, with full training camp you maximize the your ROI to the fullest (assuming it’s at most 2 year deal) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleBallofHate Posted June 27, 2018 Author Share Posted June 27, 2018 Devils Insiders Retweeted Greg Vorse TV @GregVorse 2h2 hours ago More Former #Sabres captain Brian Gionta on the ice as a coach for #SabresDevCamp 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vadvlfan Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 9 hours ago, mfitz804 said: That’s fine, but being competitive and making the playoffs, etc. will make us a more attractive landing place for said impact dman. Still need the best team possible in the ice every year. Not sure. If I were a John Carlson type, we'd be an attractive destination in that he would be undisputed #1 D man. Wondering if a Mike Green might fit the bill for a couple years. Andy Greene starting to get long in the tooth. Wonder if anyone from Binghamton would step up like Jesper last year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derlique Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 Between Carlson and Johnson, a lot of UFA "landmines" are becoming unavailable. Good news for us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundstrom Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 i feel like pitt is the kind of team that can mask johnson's deficiencies and he'll actually be marginally ok there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LittleBallofHate Posted June 27, 2018 Author Share Posted June 27, 2018 FWIW, McKenzie said the DSP deal is for $1 mil. Nice little interview with Pickles: https://www.nchchockey.com/news_article/show/927128 Snippet: “I remember getting some goosebumps and chills going out for Game 1 in Tampa. The blue lights flashing all over the place, the excitement and buzz in the crowd,” Coleman reflected. “A game I’ll never forget is Game 3. Our first game in Jersey. I’ve never heard a building that loud in my entire career. That was a ton of fun to play in front of. The whole game was relentless chanting. The fans were in it. We were in it. It was physical, chippy and we ended up pulling out a late win and blew the roof off the joint. Obviously we didn’t win that series, but it’s something we can build on.” 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antiquated Colorado Rockie Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 3 hours ago, NJDevils1214 said: How are these backdoor style negotiations possible? I thought you weren't allowed to speak to FAs until the FA period started on July 1st. pretty much inevitable once you permit a courting period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 11 hours ago, Antiquated Colorado Rockie said: pretty much inevitable once you permit a courting period. At least the courting period is legit now...in the past, I think obvious tampering was going on all of the time, and everyone knew it (though some were obviously very good at covering it up)...these deals that used to get done seemingly in minutes as soon as the "official" UFA window was underway? Right, I'm sure there was no contact prior to July 1. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aclc79 Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 13 hours ago, MadDog2020 said: Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk In case we were tempted to bring him back....NOT! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steadevils Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Would like to take a look at Emile Poirier on a tryout or two-way contract. The more I read about the guy the more he seems like a fit. Game built on speed and physicality. Reclamation project where there is a known reason for a numbers decline (admitted alcoholism). Just seems like a lottery ticket worth buying to me. Also found this Tobias Reider's 2007-2008 season which is pretty hilarious to look at: 2007-08 EV Landshut U16 Schüler-BL GP: 34 G: 113 A: 64 TP: 177 PIM: 59 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilsfan118 Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Very interested to see where the B-level UFAs land once the Tavares saga is over. Have to imagine we're at least somewhat involved with a couple guys. If not, curious to see if Ray can pull any trades out. I think you simply have to address the situation at D, and, ideally, the 2C slot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleBallofHate Posted June 28, 2018 Author Share Posted June 28, 2018 Interesting... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Interesting... If this is true, there’s gonna be quite a rager in Ottawa lol. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neb00rs Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 14 hours ago, LittleBallofHate said: FWIW, McKenzie said the DSP deal is for $1 mil. If true that's pretty significant. He's probably giving up half a million to a million dollars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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