bobilly45 Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 36 minutes ago, Devilsfan118 said: I know you get pleasure out of trying to be the "voice of reason", I'm not going to argue with you over it. A lot of teams got better today and picked up free assets, we didn't. That's all I'm saying. Shero's on the clock. This team as it stands doesn't make the playoffs unless Hall has another herculean effort up his sleeve. Final roster isnt made in july... I'm pretty sure shero will do something between now and October. I'd rather him make trades then make a pick on July 1 just because some fans are unhappy about not getting any of the big names. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anhkheg Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 (edited) The problem this year is that cap went up by a considerable amount (4.5 mill) giving a lot of teams breathing room compared to the past few years (approx 2 mill) leaving Shero with some what limited options for trade. I didn't expect much from Shero during this free agency period and I don't expect any major trades as most teams are in a comfortable position cap wise. My hope is he signs De Haan as I feel D could use an upgrade. Edited July 2, 2018 by Anhkheg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 9 minutes ago, CarterforPresident said: Shero has done alot for this team. He deserves the respect. Believe in Shero. If he believes in our young prospects, then so be it. The teams that win the off-season don't always win the regular season either. He can believe in our young prospects all he wants. Their production suggests that the only ones who could be real good players are Anderson and Smith, and maybe Davies and Walsh. That's not terrible, but what it means is that he should try selling high on as many as them as possible so that we can land one or two real good players in a trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Anhkheg said: My hope is he signs De Haan as I feel D could use an upgrade. Yup. I mean, obviously Tavares would have been a huge score, but that pipe dream is over so let’s get back to business. We need a defensive upgrade, de Haan would be a great add. Edited July 2, 2018 by mfitz804 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neb00rs Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 (edited) The fallout is brutal...and hilarious: Edited July 2, 2018 by Neb00rs 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackchi Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Kinkyisth3b3st said: I would not be willing to trade a 1st round pick at this stage of our rebuild. Things can easily go south. Oh Jesus Christ dude it’s been 9 hours. Relax. Ok he’s sorry Ray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 (edited) 48 minutes ago, mfitz804 said: Yup. I mean, obviously Tavares would have been a huge score, but that pipe dream is over so let’s get back to business. We need a defensive upgrade, de Haan would be a great add. Apparently Hextall was asked about Tavares and said that he wasn't interested in signing or talking to any team in the metro division, other than the Isles. Edited July 2, 2018 by Daniel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil Dan 56 Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 Mojo was traded for July 2nd last year. Ray seems to wait until the other teams make crazy over-reaching moves, and then swoops in. Patience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagknife Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 3 minutes ago, Devil Dan 56 said: Mojo was traded for July 2nd last year. Ray seems to wait until the other teams make crazy over-reaching moves, and then swoops in. Patience. I’m not working tomorrow (supposedly) so I’ll appreciate the entertainment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anhkheg Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 This is our lineup: Forwards: Hall-Nico-Bratt Mojo-Zacha-Palms Blake-Zajac-Noeson Wood-Boyle-Some4thliner The players I am concerned about are Mojo, Zacha and Bratt. Mojo for health reasons, Zacha and Bratt still have to prove themselves. Defense: Butcher-Vatanen Mueller-Severson Greene-Lovejoy We also have Egor Yakovlev and Santini. I am guessing De Haan will probably not be coming here based on this as Greene will not be sitting and Mueller needs to play so he can develop his game. If your Shero, what do you do? 2 minutes ago, Devil Dan 56 said: Mojo was traded for July 2nd last year. Ray seems to wait until the other teams make crazy over-reaching moves, and then swoops in. Patience. I do agree with you, this is something Shero does very well. This year, a lot of teams have cap room due to the increase so such a trade will be harder to make, it can still happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 7 minutes ago, Kinkyisth3b3st said: You’re seriously standing on that leg? “The Cup-winning General manager of the New Jersey Devils can believe in our prospects all he wants, but Daniel of the NJDevs message board knows that he’s wrong” cmon man! I don't know what Shero believes about our prospects. I can look at their production and say that players like, for example, Mike McLeod that do not dominate junior in their draft +2 year typically don't turn into stars, or even bona fide second line forwards. I can look at Joey Anderson though and see that he produced at the same level as Brady Tkachuk and Casey Mittlestadt, and therefore conclude he's a keeper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharifijanov2099 Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 16 minutes ago, Devil Dan 56 said: Mojo was traded for July 2nd last year. Ray seems to wait until the other teams make crazy over-reaching moves, and then swoops in. Patience. Yeah, I don't think there's anything to be up in arms about for Devils fans. Outside John Tavares (of players who made it to Canada Day without handshakes in place), there wasn't a lot of high end talent. Many GMs overpaid for 3rd and 4th liners. 7m and 5 years is a lot of money/term for JVR. It sounds like Tavares wasn't looking to sign here... so there's no point in wasting money, ever. John Moore did not deserve a 5 year contract (Boston), so am happy we did not resign him. The players we should still be interested in, as many have said, are Maroon (money/term being reasonable), and DeHaan. Yes, it would be nice to add a top 6 center and a top 6 RW, but that's not always on the table. Perron (RW) would have been a decent landing. He chose to go back to a former team, and familiarity is hard to compete with. Devils are still in transition here and I imagine next year's crop of UFAs will be stronger. Otherwise, Shero may try the trade route, or make take on some dead LTIR contracts in order to get decent roster players in a package. Remains to be seen. But I'm pretty happy that we're not throwing money at a Leo Komarov for no reason. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Anhkheg said: If your Shero, what do you do? I do agree with you, this is something Shero does very well. This year, a lot of teams have cap room due to the increase so such a trade will be harder to make, it can still happen. Think big and bold. Like Erik Karlsson and give him Doughty's extension ahead of time. You rarely get a chance at someone like that under circumstances where the team you're trading with is under severe distress. If he says he doesn't want to play here, get Hall to talk to him and tell him how wonderful things are here. De Haan's a nice player. But he doesn't get us where we need to be. Meaning, I'm sure Toronto, Tampa and Boston will be quaking in their boots when they hear we added him. Edited July 2, 2018 by Daniel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 4 hours ago, Daniel said: No one gives a sh!t. You do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 Anyway, O'Reilly not really something the Devils should've been in on - while those Berglund and Sobotka contracts aren't great at all, they do hold some value for a team like Buffalo that has struggled with finding depth (and has the young players to compensate for the bloated AAVs those contracts hold). I don't think it's a good idea for them to trade their 1st until they've fixed the goaltending, either with said first or by some other means. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 7 minutes ago, Triumph said: You do. I literally only care to about career minor leaguers that are brought in to Binghamton to the extent they can skate without falling down most of the time, are not criminals and can leave a good impression on their teammates that might make it to the NHL. I think it’s odd that Devils PR is touting these signings like we just traded Zajac for McDavid, but that’s just optics. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 5 minutes ago, Triumph said: Anyway, O'Reilly not really something the Devils should've been in on - while those Berglund and Sobotka contracts aren't great at all, they do hold some value for a team like Buffalo that has struggled with finding depth (and has the young players to compensate for the bloated AAVs those contracts hold). I don't think it's a good idea for them to trade their 1st until they've fixed the goaltending, either with said first or by some other means. Do you have any interest in the Devils competing for a Cup ever again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 1 minute ago, Daniel said: I literally only care to about career minor leaguers that are brought in to Binghamton to the extent they can skate without falling down most of the time, are not criminals and can leave a good impression on their teammates that might make it to the NHL. I think it’s odd that Devils PR is touting these signings like we just traded Zajac for McDavid, but that’s just optics. Gabriel played 13 games for the Wild in 2017 and the Devils just hired his ex-GM as a senior adviser. The Devils also signed him to an NHL contract. He'll never make the opening night roster, but as a 'gritty' call-up when the team's in a slump? Could happen. Not the end of the world, obviously - the season the Wild called him up, they had 106 points. I just don't like the process that says 'Yeah, this guy who is barely dressable at a lower level'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 Just now, Daniel said: Do you have any interest in the Devils competing for a Cup ever again? Do you have any interest in creating the world's largest strawman? Yes, I do. I don't think trading a bunch of assets for Ryan O'Reilly is the way to get there now. Guys on O'Reilly's level are often available. This isn't a superstar player, this is a borderline 1st line player. sh!t happens around the league and these guys become available one way or another. The Devils should be on that - next off-season, when they know a lot more about Hischier, Bratt, Zacha, McLeod, Anderson, the goalies, etc. This still isn't a good team unless the young guys really take another step next season, and O'Reilly doesn't do a ton to change that. Doing that move and not being active in the free agent market makes no sense. St. Louis signed Perron and Bozak and also went after O'Reilly. That's the kind of thing the Devils should do next off-season. St. Louis did a great job of determining that A: They have a lot of good-ish prospects - there's probably not any future stars among Thompson, Kyrou, and Thomas (among others), but there's good NHL talent there and B: Buffalo would actually want guys like Sobotka and Berglund. They got their guy. Hopefully the Devils can do the same next off-season. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 Torts rant! https://www.cbssports.com/nhl/news/nhl-free-agency-2018-john-tortorella-goes-on-epic-rant-against-jack-johnsons-comments-about-blue-jackets-culture/Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aitchmack Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 27 minutes ago, MadDog2020 said: Torts rant! https://www.cbssports.com/nhl/news/nhl-free-agency-2018-john-tortorella-goes-on-epic-rant-against-jack-johnsons-comments-about-blue-jackets-culture/ Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Can never make my mind up whether I like or dislike Torts. I love that he's so unfiltered and characters like him make sport more entertaining. But whenever the Devils are playing one of his teams I want the puck to take a wicked deflection and knock him on his ass. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 8 hours ago, Devil Dan 56 said: Mojo was traded for July 2nd last year. Ray seems to wait until the other teams make crazy over-reaching moves, and then swoops in. Patience. Well, at least he did it once. Does he have a history of it aside from Johansson? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleBallofHate Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 @ToddCordell 🏴Todd Cordell 🏴Retweeted Bob McKenzie Flames need Neal's scoring but five years is a long time. Would assume this takes them out of the race for Maroon, which could help the Devils. @TSNBobMcKenzie CGY and James Neal were working late into the night on a five year deal. Assuming it got done — it was headed in that direction but nothing official as of yet — it will be an AAV of around $5.75M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moustic Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 44 minutes ago, mfitz804 said: Well, at least he did it once. Does he have a history of it aside from Johansson? Palmieri was slighty taken in the same condition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilsfan118 Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 James Neal to Calgary, 5.75 over 5 apparently. Good cap hit, long term for a 31 year old though. Bullet: Dodged. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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