mackchi Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 But Bingo gonna make. cup run! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgeControl Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 9 hours ago, Daniel said: De Haan's a nice player. But he doesn't get us where we need to be. Meaning, I'm sure Toronto, Tampa and Boston will be quaking in their boots when they hear we added him. have you looked at our 3 pairing depth chart??? its brutal.. we need to cull a few of these.. karlsson and dehaan are not mutually exclusive btw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derlique Posted July 2, 2018 Author Share Posted July 2, 2018 Shero has really done a good job avoiding landmines. I agree with Tri in that the last one he has to avoid is Luca Sbisa, because that dude is ass. I would still like to sign de Haan to a 4/16 deal, and retain Maroon if the term is right (nothing over 3 years). Duclair would be a nice, cheap option as well. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerzey Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 Maybe Shero is working on a trade for someone like Trouba. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mfitz804 Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 56 minutes ago, moustic said: Palmieri was slighty taken in the same condition Palmieri was traded for during the draft, before free agency. Not because the Ducks signed someone and had to shed salary. Plus he was making less than $1.5m at the time. That’s not a salary dumping move like Johansson was for the Caps, he was making just over $4.5m. Just now, MadDog2020 said: Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Reading between the lines that means definitely the Rangers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 Reading between the lines that means definitely the Rangers. Broadway brah. Hustle and bustle brah. Bleeds blue brah. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilsfan118 Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 Fingers crossed on De Hann. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 i hate when fans are sh!tting on their GM for "doing nothing" as if the GM is out camping or playing video games while the rest of the league is making trades and signings. You needs the players interests to sign them and you need a partner to trade. And it's surely not cause there's no results that there's no efforts. Entitlement 101 in full display on july 1st as usual 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 One thing I find absurd is the idea that 'teams got better' on July 1 - collectively, no they didn't, a bunch of guys just switched locations. Now if teams start making trades involving futures, now you have teams potentially making themselves better. But the Leafs, already a playoff team, definitely got better, but the Sabres got worse, and the Islanders got worse. I'd say for a team trying to make the playoffs again that's a good thing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derlique Posted July 2, 2018 Author Share Posted July 2, 2018 3 minutes ago, Triumph said: One thing I find absurd is the idea that 'teams got better' on July 1 - collectively, no they didn't, a bunch of guys just switched locations. Now if teams start making trades involving futures, now you have teams potentially making themselves better. But the Leafs, already a playoff team, definitely got better, but the Sabres got worse, and the Islanders got worse. I'd say for a team trying to make the playoffs again that's a good thing. Philly got better. They got JVR and got rid of Filp and Manning 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 11 minutes ago, Triumph said: One thing I find absurd is the idea that 'teams got better' on July 1 - collectively, no they didn't, a bunch of guys just switched locations. Now if teams start making trades involving futures, now you have teams potentially making themselves better. But the Leafs, already a playoff team, definitely got better, but the Sabres got worse, and the Islanders got worse. I'd say for a team trying to make the playoffs again that's a good thing. So teams that were not contending for playoff spots last year got worse and the teams that we're actually competing with for playoffs spots are going to be better. Thank the maker! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 1 minute ago, Daniel said: So teams that were not contending for playoff spots last year got worse and the teams that we're actually competing with for playoffs spots are going to be better. Thank the maker! The closest team to NJ for the 8th spot last season was Florida, who added nobody of significance yesterday (they did add Hoffman several days ago). The next closest team, Carolina, added no one of significance and lost a top 9 forward. The next closest team to that was the Islanders who lost a franchise player. The next closest team was the Rangers, who added nobody of significance. So, yeah. Keep worrying, though. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonDreads Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 3 minutes ago, Daniel said: So teams that were not contending for playoff spots last year got worse and the teams that we're actually competing with for playoffs spots are going to be better. Thank the maker! We're still ahead of the Rangers, Islanders, and Hurricanes and we're still better than at least half of the Atlantic division, so at worst we're probably fighting with Florida and Columbus for the final spot again at minimum. It's not like every team in our division made huge, sweeping upgrades and we're just sitting around eating glue. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil Dan 56 Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 16 minutes ago, Derlique said: Philly got better. They got JVR and got rid of Filp and Manning Philly won't be better until they figure out goaltending. Its been their Achilles heel forever 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevils1214 Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 1 minute ago, Triumph said: The closest team to NJ for the 8th spot last season was Florida, who added nobody of significance yesterday (they did add Hoffman several days ago). The next closest team, Carolina, added no one of significance and lost a top 9 forward. The next closest team to that was the Islanders who lost a franchise player. The next closest team was the Rangers, who added nobody of significance. So, yeah. Keep worrying, though. I get where you're coming from, and I understand there is no reason to panic and I agree. However, while those teams did not add anyone of significance, should we really be banking on Taylor Hall having another MVP season? If it wasn't for him carrying the team, in part with an amazing 26 game pt streak, NJ doesn't edge out Florida. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilsfan118 Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 41 minutes ago, SterioDesign said: i hate when fans are sh!tting on their GM for "doing nothing" as if the GM is out camping or playing video games while the rest of the league is making trades and signings. You needs the players interests to sign them and you need a partner to trade. And it's surely not cause there's no results that there's no efforts. Entitlement 101 in full display on july 1st as usual Who's sh!tting on Shero in here? No one with a brain is dismissing what a great job he's done so far. The gripes are about the complete lack of activity regarding the league's top available free agents. The ones that teams striving to make the playoffs should probably be involved with. No one is calling the offseason a failure after one day. I'm just saying we failed day 1. It's been completely radio silent thus, with the Devils not even being mentioned as being involved with any significant FA's except JVR. That's all we're saying. We're hoping Shero has other moves in mind, otherwise this team probably regresses next year. "Entitlement" is an interesting conclusion to draw from yesterday's comments. 3 minutes ago, Triumph said: One thing I find absurd is the idea that 'teams got better' on July 1 - collectively, no they didn't, a bunch of guys just switched locations. Now if teams start making trades involving futures, now you have teams potentially making themselves better. But the Leafs, already a playoff team, definitely got better, but the Sabres got worse, and the Islanders got worse. I'd say for a team trying to make the playoffs again that's a good thing. King of semantics strikes again. The schtick is getting old. I don't see how the Islanders and Sabres getting worse is relevant since they weren't playoff teams anyway, following your logic regarding the Leafs. I'm more concerned about the Flyers adding a 30 goal scorer and the Penguins improving their D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Derlique said: Shero has really done a good job avoiding landmines. I agree with Tri in that the last one he has to avoid is Luca Sbisa, because that dude is ass. I would still like to sign de Haan to a 4/16 deal, and retain Maroon if the term is right (nothing over 3 years). Duclair would be a nice, cheap option as well. Tri's been dead-on in this thread, he really has...I think some feel that "battle to get into the playoffs" one season almost means "must do every last thing to become instant SC contenders" the next. I'd love for that to happen (wouldn't we all), but at the same time, like Tri's alluded to, there's a bunch of kids in the system, and their value hasn't really been established yet (either as trade chips or as future contributors to the Devils). And I think the big club definitely has room for improvement, just with the players currently on the team (Hischier, MoJo, Bratt, etc)...it would be nice if Cory and KK have a much more consistent 2018-19 between the two of them. I think I'm a little confused as to what the expectations were for yesterday. We've known for quite a while that JT wasn't interested in the Devils. I can't say I would've been disappointed if JVR or ROR had come here, but I'm not disappointed that they're NOT...and like you said, Shero didn't make any landmine moves for the sake of doing something. And I'm still not sure why some insist on making 7/1 some kind of absolute deadline for "getting better". 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derlique Posted July 2, 2018 Author Share Posted July 2, 2018 Just now, NJDevils1214 said: I get where you're coming from, and I understand there is no reason to panic and I agree. However, while those teams did not add anyone of significance, should we really be banking on Taylor Hall having another MVP season? If it wasn't for him carrying the team, in part with an amazing 26 game pt streak, NJ doesn't edge out Florida. -Schneider should be better when he's back - Palmieri and Johansson should play more -Natural progression from Bratt, Hischier, Wood, Zacha -Butcher should be getting most of Moore's minutes= big upgrade -UFAs like de Haan, and Maroon could help All of these things won't happen and they're a Hall injury away from being screwed, but there is a clear path to being better. I am in the camp that says Shero needs to do more this offseason, however. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 3 minutes ago, Triumph said: The closest team to NJ for the 8th spot last season was Florida, who added nobody of significance yesterday (they did add Hoffman several days ago). The next closest team, Carolina, added no one of significance and lost a top 9 forward. The next closest team to that was the Islanders who lost a franchise player. The next closest team was the Rangers, who added nobody of significance. So, yeah. Keep worrying, though. If we're talking about just July 1 and 2, they're arbitrary dates. Florida finished with a lot of momentum last year and added Hoffman (a 25-30 goal scorer) for virtually nothing two weeks ago. Carolina added Hamilton and Svechnikov last week, and we'll see if they outweigh the players they gave up. Otherwise I fail to see what being better right now than the Rangers and Islanders proves exactly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 Just now, NJDevils1214 said: I get where you're coming from, and I understand there is no reason to panic and I agree. However, while those teams did not add anyone of significance, should we really be banking on Taylor Hall having another MVP season? If it wasn't for him carrying the team, in part with an amazing 26 game pt streak, NJ doesn't edge out Florida. Absolutely not, but I don't think the way forward is through big UFA signings or trades of futures, not this year. If the Devils miss the playoffs, so be it, they weren't all that great last season and caught a bunch of breaks to sneak in. Another lottery pick wouldn't be the worst thing to happen. A down-ish year for Hall wouldn't be the worst thing to happen either. I'm glad that whether by circumstance or deliberate action, Shero has stayed out of the UFA market so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 1 minute ago, Devilsfan118 said: Who's sh!tting on Shero in here? No one with a brain is dismissing what a great job he's done so far. The gripes are about the complete lack of activity regarding the league's top available free agents. The ones that teams striving to make the playoffs should probably be involved with. No one is calling the offseason a failure after one day. I'm just saying we failed day 1. It's been completely radio silent thus, with the Devils not even being mentioned as being involved with any significant FA's except JVR. That's all we're saying. We're hoping Shero has other moves in mind, otherwise this team probably regresses next year. "Entitlement" is an interesting conclusion to draw from yesterday's comments. 3 lol Why are you taking such a defensive stance here? lol And where did i say that i was talking about our fans? I've seen a few actually in here but my comment was general. MTL fans are jumping off bridges at the moment and all i see is comments about Bergevin not doing anything. Same with many other fanbases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 5 minutes ago, Devilsfan118 said: King of semantics strikes again. The schtick is getting old. I don't see how the Islanders and Sabres getting worse is relevant since they weren't playoff teams anyway, following your logic regarding the Leafs. I'm more concerned about the Flyers adding a 30 goal scorer and the Penguins improving their D. The schedule isn't set up such that only playoff teams play playoff teams and non-playoff teams play non-playoff teams. The Devils still play the Rangers and Islanders next season. Them getting worse means the Devils have a better chance of beating them. The Penguins absolutely did not improve their D. I'm delighted that they've decided to get worse. JVR to the Flyers sucks, indeed, but Tavares being out of the division is bigger than that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 Also we can hope for Hischier, Bratt and Wood to get better. Mojo might play a full season. Zacha i feel he'll either get better or stay the same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 Just now, Devilsfan118 said: Who's sh!tting on Shero in here? No one with a brain is dismissing what a great job he's done so far. The gripes are about the complete lack of activity regarding the league's top available free agents. The ones that teams striving to make the playoffs should probably be involved with. No one is calling the offseason a failure after one day. I'm just saying we failed day 1. It's been completely radio silent thus, with the Devils not even being mentioned as being involved with any significant FA's except JVR. That's all we're saying. We're hoping Shero has other moves in mind, otherwise this team probably regresses next year. "Entitlement" is an interesting conclusion to draw from yesterday's comments. King of semantics strikes again. The schtick is getting old. I don't see how the Islanders and Sabres getting worse is relevant since they weren't playoff teams anyway, following your logic regarding the Leafs. I'm more concerned about the Flyers adding a 30 goal scorer and the Penguins improving their D. Was going to respond to the bolded, but Derlique nailed all of the points I was going to make. There's reason to expect some improvements from within. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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