Lateralous Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 21 minutes ago, LittleBallofHate said: FWIW, there were some quotes yesterday that de Haan didn't even take the "best offer" because he wanted to go to Carolina (does every FA say that? is it a requirement to the signing?). Anyway, I guess coaching/winning didn't play so much into his decision (j/k, kinda?): @ArmstrongABC11 Jul 3 de Haan on NC: “Not much winter... taxes are good. 2 hours from mountains, 2 hours from ocean.” Actually I'm glad to see players preferring to go to destinations like Carolina as opposed to the same old Toronto, LA NY and Chicago BS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 I mean, fvck off. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lateralous Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 1 minute ago, MadDog2020 said: I mean, fvck off. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Wow!!!! Talk about one upping the Leafs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 Wow!!!! Talk about one upping the Leafs Watch them give up nothing too. Watch.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lateralous Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 Just now, MadDog2020 said: Watch them give up nothing too. Watch. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk It has to be Sergachev, doesn't it? Yzerman wouldn't dare flip a newly extended McDonough, would he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 It has to be Sergachev, doesn't it? Yzerman wouldn't dare flip a newly extended McDonough, would he? It won’t be Sergachev. It certainly won’t be McDonagh. It’ll be Koekkoek, a prospect, and a 1 (which may as well be a 2). Because it just seems that normal rules don’t pertain to Yzerman. Maybe throw Stralman in there because they need to move his contract if they wanna re-sign Karlsson. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lateralous Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, MadDog2020 said: It won’t be Sergachev. It certainly won’t be McDonagh. It’ll be Koekkoek, a prospect, and a 1 (which may as well be a 2). Because it just seems that normal rules don’t pertain to Yzerman. Maybe throw Stralman in there because they need to move his contract if they wanna re-sign Karlsson. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Can I get a Brayden Point at least? F'ing ottawa Edited July 5, 2018 by Lateralous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 Can I get a Brayden Point at least? F'ing ottawa Common sense would say Point would be part of the deal.... but he won’t be. It’ll be a massive underpayment (because Yzerman), and we’ll all be sitting here saying ‘THAT’S IT?!’ Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lateralous Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 Callahan has a cap hit of 5.8 and a salary of 4.7 for the next two years. It's unfortunate but that's probably appealing the Melynk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 If it’s Tampa and Ottawa gets nothing in return, Ottawa deserves to suck forever. Trading a player like Karlsson within your own dixision is the dumbest thing you can ever do. Unless, of course, Ottawa thinks Karlsson is a shell of himself. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lateralous Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 Just now, njbuff said: If it’s Tampa and Ottawa gets nothing in return, Ottawa deserves to suck forever. Trading a player like Karlsson within your own dixision is the dumbest thing you can ever do. Unless, of course, Ottawa thinks Karlsson is a shell of himself. This is an interesting point. Ottawa got nothing for Mike Hoffman because they refused to trade within the division and now they're going to turn around and send the best defenseman in the league to Tampa? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 If it’s Tampa and Ottawa gets nothing in return, Ottawa deserves to suck forever. Trading a player like Karlsson within your own dixision is the dumbest thing you can ever do. Unless, of course, Ottawa thinks Karlsson is a shell of himself. ...and would you trust Ottawa’s judgement on that? Because I wouldn’t trust Ottawa to judge a dog show. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonDreads Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 (edited) I would imagine if it's Tampa the package is something like 2020 1st, Cal Foote, Brayden Coburn, and Taylor Raddysh, or something to that effect. I wouldn't be too quick to throw Callahan in that trade, Callahan has a no-move and I can't imagine he would sign off on a trade to Ottawa. EDIT: Also something to consider, Tampa doesn't have their 2019 1st or 2nd available to barter with in this since those two are tied up in the conditions of the McDonagh trade with the Rangers. Edited July 5, 2018 by CommonDreads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 Am I the only one who's totally okay with Karlsson going to Tampa? Let them have a nose slapping contest with Toronto and Boston for a few years while we continue the back-end of our re-build... they'll beat up on Florida enough to get 2 metro wild-card teams. The other report is that the Blue Jackets are heavily involved in trying to acquire Karlsson, and fuuuuuuck that sh!t. I’d prefer he go to the west if he isn’t coming to the Devils. And COLUMBUS? Yeah fvck that, if he’s willing to sign there, he damn well better be willing to sign here. I don’t have to go into all the reasons NJ is a better place to live than motherfvcking Columbus, Ohio, so I’m not gonna waste my time. There is NO REASON we should not be involved in these talks. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilsfan118 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 (edited) Pack it up boys, the east belongs to the Atlantic Division. I don't know what I'd do if I was Shero at this point. And, again, the tax situation is absolute garbage. Why impose a salary cap if teams in tax-free states are completely able to undercut it. fvcks sake. Edited July 5, 2018 by Devilsfan118 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 26 minutes ago, Devilsfan118 said: And, again, the tax situation is absolute garbage. Why impose a salary cap if teams in tax-free states are completely able to undercut it. fvcks sake. What exactly are they supposed to about whether or not a given state has state income tax? That's not a new development. Even if there is no salary cap, they'd still be able to take less money in this states and earn the same. Eliminate the salary cap and EVERY star player will want to team up Golden State Warriors style, earn their money, pay no state tax, and win a handful of Cups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilsfan118 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, mfitz804 said: What exactly are they supposed to about whether or not a given state has state income tax? That's not a new development. Even if there is no salary cap, they'd still be able to take less money in this states and earn the same. Eliminate the salary cap and EVERY star player will want to team up Golden State Warriors style, earn their money, pay no state tax, and win a handful of Cups. I'm not a CBA lawyer or smart enough to come up with a workable solution, clearly. But I dunno, something where the hard cap varies from team to team depending on the state's tax rate. IE if NJ's state tax is 10% (simple math, it isn't) then give NJ a 10% boost to their cap limit. I mean as it stands Tampa essentially has almost a 30% cap advantage over a state like California, for example. That's insane. Edited July 5, 2018 by Devilsfan118 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgeControl Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 I wonder how much of JTs salary is going to the state? half? 53% then add the agents take, YIKES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 I wonder how much of JTs salary is going to the state? half? 53% then add the agents take, YIKES A millionaire whose great grandkids will never have to worry about money will have a few less million. How terrible. I’m sure he’ll be clipping those coupons lol. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgeControl Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 Just now, MadDog2020 said: A millionaire whose great grandkids will never have to worry about money will have a few less million. How terrible. I’m sure he’ll be clipping those coupons lol. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk You'd be amazed at how broke athletes wind up, same with people coming into big money... we aint talking a few million..and just because you make lots of money doesnt mean you should have most of it taken away.. 56%, screw that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satans Hockey Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 (edited) Any rich athlete/celebrity that blows all their money cause they are stupid gets this from me... Edited July 5, 2018 by Satans Hockey 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 1 hour ago, CommonDreads said: I would imagine if it's Tampa the package is something like 2020 1st, Cal Foote, Brayden Coburn, and Taylor Raddysh, or something to that effect. I wouldn't be too quick to throw Callahan in that trade, Callahan has a no-move and I can't imagine he would sign off on a trade to Ottawa. EDIT: Also something to consider, Tampa doesn't have their 2019 1st or 2nd available to barter with in this since those two are tied up in the conditions of the McDonagh trade with the Rangers. Sad thing is we could easily beat that deal. Our first in 2019 is more valuable than Tampa’s first in 2020, Severson is more valuable than Foote, and Bratt is more valuable than Raddysh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 You'd be amazed at how broke athletes wind up, same with people coming into big money... we aint talking a few million..and just because you make lots of money doesnt mean you should have most of it taken away.. 56%, screw that The athletes who wind up broke wind up that way because they’re fvcking stupid, not because they pay higher taxes. Surround yourself with sound financial advisors and don’t blow your money on garbage. If it drives, flies, floats, or fvcks- lease it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonDreads Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, EdgeControl said: You'd be amazed at how broke athletes wind up, same with people coming into big money... we aint talking a few million..and just because you make lots of money doesnt mean you should have most of it taken away.. 56%, screw that Even if JT loses 56% of his money, he's still walking away with $5M a year for 7 years, I think he'll be fine for basically ever. There was actually an ESPN 30-for-30 doc on ex-NFL players that go broke after their careers, and I was expecting to feel sorry for a lot of these guys but I felt no remorse for the people they interviewed for this. There was one guy who couldn't pay his child support bills because he spent that money on a new Hummer 3 instead, a lot of the stories in that doc amounted to just pure stupidity. Edited July 5, 2018 by CommonDreads 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgeControl Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, Satans Hockey said: Any rich athlete/celebrity that blows all their money cause they are stupid gets this from me... agree 1000% , but the main point is most people have zero issues with taking others money .. F that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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