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3 hours ago, MadDog2020 said:

 

 

 


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Its not going over so well with isles fans here on li (his real story).... "pajama boy" jerseys are being burned left and right.

Yes, that's really his nickname around here

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I'm so fvcking livid about this FA period. LeBron signed in LA? Really? Wtf, is Ray doing anything? If I find out Ray didn't even call his agent to inquire about coming to NJ I'm going to be pissed. 

I like to tell people I’m an architect, Art Vandeley.

Others have already hit on this note, but no. Hallsy is younger, healthier, and is coming off his 1st career Hart trophy, certainly wouldn't trade him for Karlsson. The list of players I'd trade Hall

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29 minutes ago, Lateralous said:

It wasn't meant to be a shot at Parise, I just never considered his offensive game nearly as dynamic or well rounded as the other two.   Also, he was also no where near as clutch IMO.   I always felt like he played every shift during the season like it was a playoff, so he didn't have that other level once the playoffs started.   

Well i dunno... he scored a very very clutch goal for the USA once. 

Turns out it was only a great setup for Crosby's golden goal... but hey. It was still clutch

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38 minutes ago, Lateralous said:

It wasn't meant to be a shot at Parise, I just never considered his offensive game nearly as dynamic or well rounded as the other two.   Also, he was also no where near as clutch IMO.   I always felt like he played every shift during the season like it was a playoff, so he didn't have that other level once the playoffs started.   

Perfectly stated in both your posts

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19 hours ago, NJDevils1214 said:

I understand. No doubt they might have different/more skill sets. Age is a factor but also my perception of Malking/Crosby is that they are both quiet and void of personality. McDavid comes off as just being salty he is going into year 3 and still hasn't won a cup. Taylor Hall appears to be a natural leader on and off the ice, says the right things, etc. I like him more. Homer bias lol.

EDM did not seem to realize his leadership potential.  What a dumpster fire!

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23 hours ago, bobilly45 said:

Its not going over so well with isles fans here on li (his real story).... "pajama boy" jerseys are being burned left and right.

Yes, that's really his nickname around here

They had an opportunity to trade him, and he said no... then he left... they're not happy campers

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So about that three year extension.... It’s for $21 million lmfao. https://deadspin.com/the-golden-knights-are-paying-marc-andre-fleury-how-muc-1827579372 

 

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Yeah.  He had a good year.  I'd give him the extra million per year too. 

 

And his playoffs performance was great. He didn't choke/screw up until the Finals. Big part of why the Knights made it. I can't even remember who their backup was unless Dansk was still there or was hurt.

 

 

 

 

 

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Three year deal doesn’t kill you and I think his positive attitude about coming over from Pittsburgh and embracing the opportunity to lead an expansion team was probably a big reason why they were able to do what they did this year.  That and his on ice play was stellar.  

With as much cap space as that team has, I don’t see any reason not to lock up the face of the franchise.   If you’re looking longterm, he’s also the kind of guy that after retirement  I would think you would want to try and keep in the fold as an ambassador of the Knights 

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1 hour ago, Lateralous said:

Three year deal doesn’t kill you and I think his positive attitude about coming over from Pittsburgh and embracing the opportunity to lead an expansion team was probably a big reason why they were able to do what they did this year.  That and his on ice play was stellar.  

With as much cap space as that team has, I don’t see any reason not to lock up the face of the franchise.   If you’re looking longterm, he’s also the kind of guy that after retirement  I would think you would want to try and keep in the fold as an ambassador of the Knights 

Right on both points. If it was $6m or $7m per, makes no difference to the team. Might as well reward the guy, he was and integral part of a team that nearly made history. 

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2 hours ago, mfitz804 said:

Right on both points. If it was $6m or $7m per, makes no difference to the team. Might as well reward the guy, he was and integral part of a team that nearly made history. 

 

51 minutes ago, titans04 said:

I don't think it's a horrible either "shrugs"

It is absolutely a horrible contract. Fleury's deal kicks in when he is 35 and it runs through his 37 year old season. For a goalie who has been largely inconsistent, and relies on athleticism, paying a goalie 7 million aav in his mid-late 30s does not seem like a good gamble.

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2 hours ago, Derlique said:

 

It is absolutely a horrible contract. Fleury's deal kicks in when he is 35 and it runs through his 37 year old season. For a goalie who has been largely inconsistent, and relies on athleticism, paying a goalie 7 million aav in his mid-late 30s does not seem like a good gamble.

Cool we disagree, great. How about that?

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3 hours ago, Derlique said:

 

It is absolutely a horrible contract. Fleury's deal kicks in when he is 35 and it runs through his 37 year old season. For a goalie who has been largely inconsistent, and relies on athleticism, paying a goalie 7 million aav in his mid-late 30s does not seem like a good gamble.

It doesn’t make a difference.  He could literally turn into the worst goalie in the league this year, and it won’t stop Vegas from doing anything else they plausibly might be in a position to do.  And by that, I mean they could trade for Karlsson and Ryan, give Karlsson $12 million a year for 8 years, and they’ll still have something like $12million in cap space going forward.  

People have to stop thinking of the NHL like a fantasy league where every player is available but only for a price.

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21 minutes ago, Daniel said:

It doesn’t make a difference.  He could literally turn into the worst goalie in the league this year, and it won’t stop Vegas from doing anything else they plausibly might be in a position to do.  And by that, I mean they could trade for Karlsson and Ryan, give Karlsson $12 million a year for 8 years, and they’ll still have something like $12million in cap space going forward.  

People have to stop thinking of the NHL like a fantasy league where every player is available but only for a price.

Yup. 

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4 hours ago, Derlique said:

 

It is absolutely a horrible contract. Fleury's deal kicks in when he is 35 and it runs through his 37 year old season. For a goalie who has been largely inconsistent, and relies on athleticism, paying a goalie 7 million aav in his mid-late 30s does not seem like a good gamble.

Not largely inconsistent. And not that big of a gamble. 

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Maybe it's the language difference or "maybe" he's an *ss...:P

“When I was making my decision, it was all about hockey because I have three or four years left in my tank where I can really play at a high level,” Kovalchuk said. “L.A. has a great group of guys. Like I said, great goaltending, great defense, and they have one of the best centers in the league. I never had a chance to play with those kinds of guys, so it’s really exciting for me. It’s great.”

https://lakingsinsider.com/2018/07/14/kovalchuk-describes-decision-to-join-kings-modern-nhl-kovy-vs-kings-pics/

 

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2 hours ago, LittleBallofHate said:

Maybe it's the language difference or "maybe" he's an *ss...:P

“When I was making my decision, it was all about hockey because I have three or four years left in my tank where I can really play at a high level,” Kovalchuk said. “L.A. has a great group of guys. Like I said, great goaltending, great defense, and they have one of the best centers in the league. I never had a chance to play with those kinds of guys, so it’s really exciting for me. It’s great.”

https://lakingsinsider.com/2018/07/14/kovalchuk-describes-decision-to-join-kings-modern-nhl-kovy-vs-kings-pics/

 

It's high time I no longer needed to see that Russian troll's name on this board. The miserable POS can enjoy his three months of NHL hockey and ensuing two-and-a-half years battling to come back from a knee injury in the course of his new contract before he retires aka flops himself out of the league.

He's coming back to win the Cup? When it comes to cups he's going to have settle for the one in his pants and a dusty old mug that says "World's #1 Baba." This insignificant douche might not play a single playoff game. 

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5 minutes ago, Neb00rs said:

It's high time I no longer needed to see that Russian troll's name on this board. The miserable POS can enjoy his three months of NHL hockey and ensuing two-and-a-half years battling to come back from a knee injury in the course of his new contract before he retires aka flops himself out of the league.

He's coming back to win the Cup? When it comes to cups he's going to have settle for the one in his pants and a dusty old mug that says "World's #1 Baba." This insignificant douche might not play a single playoff game. 

DESERTER!!!  They execute deserters in some countries, don't they?  I guess he lucks out....

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17 hours ago, Daniel said:

It doesn’t make a difference.  He could literally turn into the worst goalie in the league this year, and it won’t stop Vegas from doing anything else they plausibly might be in a position to do.  And by that, I mean they could trade for Karlsson and Ryan, give Karlsson $12 million a year for 8 years, and they’ll still have something like $12million in cap space going forward.  

People have to stop thinking of the NHL like a fantasy league where every player is available but only for a price.

As of now, they have about 15 million in cap space.

William Karlsson is due a massive raise right now- likely will get 6.5+. 

Shea Theodore needs a new deal- could get 2+ if they bridge him or 4+ if they give him a Severson deal.

Nosek will likely make at least 1.5 million.

Next year, Nate Schmidt needs a new deal- he will likely get at least 5 or 6 million. Tuch is due next year as well. 

They're in fine shape right now, but things will get dicey soon if they aren't careful, and they arent being careful. 

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26 minutes ago, Mitico12 said:

Kovy's comments were unnecessary.  What a d!ck.

I kind of understand what he's saying. 

Atlanta always had **** goaltending and defense. Marty was largely hit or miss during his tenure here, and the D was solid, if unspectacular. 

But Kovalchuk has played with superstars up front. Savard, Heatley, Hossa, Elias, Parise are veryyyy good players.

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42 minutes ago, Derlique said:

I kind of understand what he's saying. 

Atlanta always had **** goaltending and defense. Marty was largely hit or miss during his tenure here, and the D was solid, if unspectacular. 

But Kovalchuk has played with superstars up front. Savard, Heatley, Hossa, Elias, Parise are veryyyy good players.

To me, it’s just typical crap that people say when  they join a new team, that they worded very poorly.,

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