SterioDesign Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 6 minutes ago, Kinkyisth3b3st said: Calling Dea a “great asset” is probably the overexaggeration of the century. A can of peas may not seem like a great "asset" in your house. But give it to a starving kid in Africa and it's a pretty good "asset" Looking at our depth and assets. We're literally the starving kids of the NHL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleBallofHate Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 33 minutes ago, SterioDesign said: Not a big fan of losing Dea on waivers... i don't really understand the move either. One of the reason we're in such a bad spot is because we've been lacking assets to make any moves... Dea was a great assets for us and we got him free... He was not producing much lately but he was bringing speed and energy which we need. I'm not punching walls or anything about it but it's a bummer unless McLeod explodes but i doubt it, i'm not really high on the kid To help you understand Hynes reasoning: Losing Dea and adding McLeod came down to a simple stance that goes beyond just one roster more: the Devils need more grit. “Those decisions are never easy, but we feel for our team, for the Devils, that we need a little bit different element,” Hynes said. “There’s some guys, whether it’s in our organization or possibly outside our organization, that we need more pushback in our forward group, whether that’s size, speed, competitiveness, when some of our top guys are on the road and getting checked. We need some guys to come through and give us energy or score some goals or give us some physical pushback.” The Devils have preached speed as a key element to their roster since coach John Hynes and GM Ray Shero took over in 2015, and McLeod brings that. He also adds an element they didn’t see in Dea. “He’s a fast, tenacious player and adds size to our lineup. He’s very competitive,” Hynes said. “That’s something we’ve talked about wanting more from our forward group, is guys that are harder to play against. He adds kind of both, the speed element and some more size. Hopefully he comes in and takes someone’s job.” c/o Chris Ryan: https://www.nj.com/devils/2018/11/why-devils-michael-mcleod-earned-nhl-call-up.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 I think they missed the forest through the trees with Dea, who was a perfectly serviceable forward - I understand that they want more physical play and there may not have been a spot for Dea when Anderson comes back, but it gets kinda bare down in the AHL on RW - Bastian doesn't seem like he's ready, Speers isn't going to be anything, Lappin's probably an AHL All-Star. Maybe they'd consider putting Quenneville or Studenic on their off-side but I don't love these ideas either. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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'7' Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 Dea is a dime a dozen player. Has he even recorded a single point since his nice first two games? Does he even get shots on goal? He's been barely noticeable on the ice and doesn't bring a single useful element to this team at a time that we need difference makers. He's a Sislo/Sestito type from the bad old days 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundstrom Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 17 minutes ago, '7' said: Dea is a dime a dozen player. Has he even recorded a single point since his nice first two games? Does he even get shots on goal? He's been barely noticeable on the ice and doesn't bring a single useful element to this team at a time that we need difference makers. He's a Sislo/Sestito type from the bad old days ses-TI-to! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevils1214 Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 26 minutes ago, MadDog2020 said: Yak plays well, gets sat anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonginator11 Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 6 minutes ago, NJDevils1214 said: Yak plays well, gets sat anyway. I don’t understand why Lovejoy can’t sit 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDfan1711 Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 15 minutes ago, Bonginator11 said: I don’t understand why Lovejoy can’t sit "Too valuable to the PK" 🙄 I honestly think it's because he's a veteran. Coaches think it's disrespectful or something. I get that it's not a popular move, and I'm sure the player would be upset, but if there are better options to put out there, you have to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevsMan84 Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 51 minutes ago, '7' said: Dea is a dime a dozen player. Has he even recorded a single point since his nice first two games? Does he even get shots on goal? He's been barely noticeable on the ice and doesn't bring a single useful element to this team at a time that we need difference makers. He's a Sislo/Sestito type from the bad old days Doesn't Tim Sestito has or still hold the NHL record for most games played by a player no never record a goal in their career? Zero goals in 101 NHL games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 42 minutes ago, NJDevils1214 said: Yak plays well, gets sat anyway. It’s pretty interesting that our defense is as bad as it is, yet they are acting like there’s no room for him. At this point I’d be fine with rotating through our other 6 defensemen and telling all of them one of them is getting sat each game for Yakovlev. Not that he’s been lights out by any means, but he’s been good and will only improve if he gets to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 22 minutes ago, NJDfan1711 said: "Too valuable to the PK" 🙄 I honestly think it's because he's a veteran. Coaches think it's disrespectful or something. I get that it's not a popular move, and I'm sure the player would be upset, but if there are better options to put out there, you have to do it. Could be. His immediate response would be “Greene sucks and he still gets to play”. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'7' Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 1 hour ago, DevsMan84 said: Doesn't Tim Sestito has or still hold the NHL record for most games played by a player no never record a goal in their career? Zero goals in 101 NHL games. I don't know (I wonder if some short term goons would have that record) but it was pretty clear from the first time I saw him step on the ice that he'd never score a goal 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 2 hours ago, '7' said: Dea is a dime a dozen player. Has he even recorded a single point since his nice first two games? Does he even get shots on goal? He's been barely noticeable on the ice and doesn't bring a single useful element to this team at a time that we need difference makers. He's a Sislo/Sestito type from the bad old days Dea is a dime a dozen player, but he is not a Sislo or Sestito type of player, or even close to the latter in terms of badness. The idea that a player who was on a hot streak 'hasn't done anything' - well yeah, sometimes that's how hockey is, but he was still having some impact sometimes, and he was still on pace to be a above-average 4th line scorer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagknife Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 Captain Lead Skates still gets to play yet looks worse game to game. It pisses me off every time but I expect nothing less from our staff at this point 1 minute ago, Triumph said: Dea is a dime a dozen player, but he is not a Sislo or Sestito type of player, or even close to the latter in terms of badness. The idea that a player who was on a hot streak 'hasn't done anything' - well yeah, sometimes that's how hockey is, but he was still having some impact sometimes, and he was still on pace to be a above-average 4th line scorer. I also think he brings more to the table than Stafford, which is why the waive pissed me off too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 4 minutes ago, jagknife said: I also think he brings more to the table than Stafford, which is why the waive pissed me off too That's true, although its true of anyone who brings anything to the table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 Stafford is probably worse but also had to know what he was getting into. I guess the rest of the lineup has enough versatility that Stafford can always slide in and someone can move over, but it's often hard to keep an extra forward who is always the extra forward - guys want to play. Someone at the end of his career like Stafford isn't exactly playing for the next contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 20 minutes ago, Triumph said: Someone at the end of his career like Stafford isn't exactly playing for the next contract. No, he's not playing for his current contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevils1214 Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 12 minutes ago, mfitz804 said: No, he's not playing for his current contract. 4th zinger in like 5 posts. You're on fire. 🔥 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 27 minutes ago, NJDevils1214 said: 4th zinger in like 5 posts. You're on fire. 🔥 It's what I do. The reason behind it is, my day job is way too serious so I act like a 12 year old on the internet to balance it out. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aclc79 Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 5 hours ago, Bonginator11 said: I don’t understand why Lovejoy can’t sit The d-corps is a little thin, forcing the marginal to play most games. Any help on the horizon there? ( And who would want Greene anyway?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilsfan118 Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 Thoughts on Palmieri potentially being used as trade bait? Pretty great contract for a streaky 30 goal scorer. Think he honestly might be one of our more valuable pieces. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 13 hours ago, Devilsfan118 said: Thoughts on Palmieri potentially being used as trade bait? Pretty great contract for a streaky 30 goal scorer. Think he honestly might be one of our more valuable pieces. I'm nowhere near there yet. He's definitely streaky, but I see him as part of the solution. It wasn't so long ago that we all screaming for a guy who could put pucks in the net at a 30 goals per 82 GP pace. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilsfan118 Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 20 minutes ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said: I'm nowhere near there yet. He's definitely streaky, but I see him as part of the solution. It wasn't so long ago that we all screaming for a guy who could put pucks in the net at a 30 goals per 82 GP pace. This is true. I certainly don't want to get rid of him, by any means. I'm just thinking of ways we could possibly get a top-3 or low end top-2 defender and Palms seems like the only borderline tradeable guy that would fetch us such a piece. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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