MadDog2020 Posted December 2, 2018 Author Share Posted December 2, 2018 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDfan1711 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 13 hours ago, MadDog2020 said: Pretty pissed about that, but it's not like we were the home team, so he wasn't gonna get booed or anything, and there aren't many guys left on the team from that 2012 Cup run anyway, so no one to get vengeance on him either. It's basically a non-issue now. He'll get booed the first/next time he's back in NJ by the fans for sure, but that's about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilsfan118 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 For me, the fact that kovalchuk is going to be forced to play through a rebuild in LA for the next 3 years is delicious. That is unless a stupid GM tries to acquire him or something. But I believe he's got two more years left and with it being a 35+ contact not many teams will probably be interested Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 1 hour ago, NJDfan1711 said: and there aren't many guys left on the team from that 2012 Cup run anyway, so no one to get vengeance on him either. Guys are not going to “get vengeance” over a contract matter. It doesn’t even happen for bad hits on the ice in today’s NHL. Sometimes I wonder what game you guys are watching, it seems better than what I’m watching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDfan1711 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 14 minutes ago, mfitz804 said: Guys are not going to “get vengeance” over a contract matter. It doesn’t even happen for bad hits on the ice in today’s NHL. Sometimes I wonder what game you guys are watching, it seems better than what I’m watching. I don't really mean get vengeance in the sense that they'd stab him and take off in a white Bronco. I do think some of the guys on that 2012 team would have played a bit harder against Kovy during his first game back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 33 minutes ago, NJDfan1711 said: I don't really mean get vengeance in the sense that they'd stab him and take off in a white Bronco. I miss Scott Stevens too. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevsMan84 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Kovy is a non-entity for me at this point. What he did sucks, but it was 5 and a half years ago and he was playing on the 4th line of the last place team in the NHL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted December 3, 2018 Author Share Posted December 3, 2018 (edited) Whoops. Meant to put that in the ATL thread. Edited December 3, 2018 by MadDog2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Good news is... the world juniors are starting soon so we'll all have a decent team to root for! well for a few weeks at least Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglejelly Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 8 hours ago, SterioDesign said: Good news is... the world juniors are starting soon so we'll all have a decent team to root for! well for a few weeks at least I'm German 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 51 minutes ago, eaglejelly said: I'm German godamnit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilsfan118 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 KK might've been hurt in practice today. Brace yourselves for the Cory Schneider show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 8 minutes ago, Devilsfan118 said: KK might've been hurt in practice today. Brace yourselves for the Cory Schneider show. Was it his catching hand? I noticed him shaking it quite a few times in the last game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgeControl Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 15 minutes ago, Devilsfan118 said: KK might've been hurt in practice today. Brace yourselves for the Cory Schneider show. ONE MAN TANK JOB, LOVE IT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevils1214 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 25 minutes ago, EdgeControl said: ONE MAN TANK JOB, LOVE IT! Cory should have gotten the starts a lot sooner in the struggle. Now the team is at a point when they're running out of time to turn the ship around and it's forced. Whatever. I'm so unbelievably disappointed so far. I was really looking forward to hockey this year and we're weeks away from already having to look forward to the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilsfan118 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 49 minutes ago, mfitz804 said: Was it his catching hand? I noticed him shaking it quite a few times in the last game. You got it: Though: Might be a nagging thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Devilsfan118 said: You got it: Though: Might be a nagging thing. Hey, I was paying attention during that last debacle they called a game!! Edited December 5, 2018 by mfitz804 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 1 hour ago, EdgeControl said: ONE MAN TANK JOB, LOVE IT! I'm starting to wonder if Shero goes with Nuclear Option #2 (after the season ends): Buy out Cory (that would be a $2 million cap hit for the next six seasons, starting next year, but would save the Devils $4 million in cap space in each of the next three seasons) Buy out Andy (that would be a $1,666,667 cap hit for the next two seasons, saving the Devils $3,333,333 in space next season). Devils will carry over $5.5 million in dead space in 2019-20 and 2020-21 (that's for Cory, Andy, Cammalleri and Kovy), but from 2021-22 through 2024-25, the dead money hit will be $2,250,000 (for Cory and Kovy). Considering that doing nothing with Cory and Andy would mean the Devils would be on the hook for $11 million combined for the two of them in 2019-20 anyway (with no reason to expect much on-ice return on their investment)...does Shero actually say fvck it and buy them out? Yes, he will be down a goalie, but will suddenly have $7,333,333 more to spend next season...in addition to the space that they already have. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 9 minutes ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said: I'm starting to wonder if Shero goes with Nuclear Option #2 (after the season ends): Buy out Cory (that would be a $2 million cap hit for the next six seasons, starting next year, but would save the Devils $4 million in cap space in each of the next three seasons) Buy out Andy (that would be a $1,666,667 cap hit for the next two seasons, saving the Devils $3,333,333 in space next season). Devils will carry over $5.5 million in dead space in 2019-20 and 2020-21 (that's for Cory, Andy, Cammalleri and Kovy), but from 2021-22 through 2024-25, the dead money hit will be $2,250,000 (for Cory and Kovy). Considering that doing nothing with Cory and Andy would mean the Devils would be on the hook for $11 million combined for the two of them in 2019-20 anyway (with no reason to expect much on-ice return on their investment)...does Shero actually say fvck it and buy them out? Yes, he will be down a goalie, but will suddenly have $7,333,333 more to spend next season...in addition to the space that they already have. I mean, when you say it like that, I don't see why they would NOT do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, mfitz804 said: I mean, when you say it like that, I don't see why they would NOT do that. Of course, a lot of this depends on if Cory ever starts to show something this year...and if the Devils are convinced that Blackwood has a legitimate future as a good NHL goaltender. I don't think Cory will get mothballed...he's going to get a real look at some point (the trajectory that the Devils are currently on suggests that we might see that as soon as early-mid January). But yeah, if he doesn't look like he's going to ever find it, I don't think you fvck around...$4 million out of $6 million to re-invest elsewhere over the next three years isn't too bad of a proposition...even if with the -$2,000,000 hits for a few years down the line. Edited December 5, 2018 by Colorado Rockies 1976 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 36 minutes ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said: Of course, a lot of this depends on if Cory ever starts to show something this year...and if the Devils are convinced that Blackwood has a legitimate future as a good NHL goaltender. I don't think Cory will get mothballed...he's going to get a real look at some point (the trajectory that the Devils are currently on suggests that we might see that as soon as early-mid January). But yeah, if he doesn't look like he's going to ever find it, I don't think you fvck around...$4 million out of $6 million to re-invest elsewhere over the next three years isn't too bad of a proposition...even if with the -$2,000,000 hits for a few years down the line. I don't think what Blackwood is or does is even a consideration. You can pay him $800k to suck as bad as Cory sucks for $6m, and look for your next goalie elsewhere. From a money saving standpoint, I'd do that all day long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagknife Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 @Colorado Rockies 1976 if I’m Ray, I’m doing everything in my power to force Greene to retire. That would be my first option before a buyout. Otherwise I love the idea of saving 2/3s of their cap hit next year my question, since I’m not well versed in the CBA at all, if we waive him and pot him in the minors, does his cap hit remain? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil Dan 56 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 2 hours ago, jagknife said: @Colorado Rockies 1976 if I’m Ray, I’m doing everything in my power to force Greene to retire. That would be my first option before a buyout. Otherwise I love the idea of saving 2/3s of their cap hit next year my question, since I’m not well versed in the CBA at all, if we waive him and pot him in the minors, does his cap hit remain? From my understanding, the cap hit is gone but you still have to pay the player because he's on a one-way contract, so he only has an NHL salary. Then the question is does ownership want to be throwing that money at a guy who isn't even on the big club? It's probably best, and more respectful to the player, to buy them out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 29 minutes ago, Devil Dan 56 said: From my understanding, the cap hit is gone but you still have to pay the player because he's on a one-way contract, so he only has an NHL salary. Then the question is does ownership want to be throwing that money at a guy who isn't even on the big club? It's probably best, and more respectful to the player, to buy them out. Yeah...a guy like Greene might get a shot with another club at $1-2 million or so on a one-year deal, the season after he's been bought out. Kinda like what Cam got when he went to LA. Don't see him just retiring, but ya never know. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titans04 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 I think any thought of him retiring and leaving 5M on the table is a waste of time. Sending him down? Does he get to keep the "C"? He's not going anywhere imo which is sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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