DevsMan84 Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 Wow, basically a pseudo mini-casino in the arena. http://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/25079183/new-jersey-devils-sportsbook-style-lounge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilsfan118 Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 I mean.. will people actually go to Devils games to gamble on other sports? Is that a thing sports betters do? Go to an event to watch other events? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 Sounds like you have to download the William Hill app to place bets, no kiosks inside the arena. Still, pretty cool. I like it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 14 minutes ago, Devilsfan118 said: I mean.. will people actually go to Devils games to gamble on other sports? Is that a thing sports betters do? Go to an event to watch other events? I'd be willing to bet there are a significant amount of people who would do that. Some of those sports betters really don't even care about sports. But if there's a place in NJ where its legal that they can go, be at an event, and also gamble, I think they will come out in droves. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevsMan84 Posted October 25, 2018 Author Share Posted October 25, 2018 21 minutes ago, Devilsfan118 said: I mean.. will people actually go to Devils games to gamble on other sports? Is that a thing sports betters do? Go to an event to watch other events? I think so. Some of those people are pretty heavily enslaved to Gamblor. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilsfan118 Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 5 minutes ago, mfitz804 said: I'd be willing to bet there are a significant amount of people who would do that. Some of those sports betters really don't even care about sports. But if there's a place in NJ where its legal that they can go, be at an event, and also gamble, I think they will come out in droves. Hey, if it helps out bottom line as far as attendance is concerned then I'm all for it. Though if this turns out to be wildly successful you can bet the facebook fans will start the "REAL FANS ARE BEING KEPT OUT OF THE ARENA BY GAMBLERS HUR DUR HUR DUR" narrative. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevsMan84 Posted October 25, 2018 Author Share Posted October 25, 2018 4 minutes ago, Devilsfan118 said: Hey, if it helps out bottom line as far as attendance is concerned then I'm all for it. Though if this turns out to be wildly successful you can bet the facebook fans will start the "REAL FANS ARE BEING KEPT OUT OF THE ARENA BY GAMBLERS HUR DUR HUR DUR" narrative. That and the same ones complaining about ticket prices will be the same ones dropping $ on betting. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck the Duck Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 Overall, I like the idea and sponsorship deal. I personally don't bet on sports outside of the odd super bowl bet, and will have no use for this lounge. However, having a mini-sports book style lounge inside the arena makes sense as the sport betting market in NJ is exploding and is going to be the largest in the country very soon. It will bring value to the arena and more money into the organization, which is a good thing. If it attracts more fans to the games (something I have a hard time believing will happen) even better. The 1 thing I don't like is the idea of putting betting lines on the scoreboard and having them there continuously throughout the game. It's not necessary, especially since the bets are all going to be placed through an app, which will have all of the lines already. Also, where is this lounge going to be located? Is this going to be where the goal bar used to be, or are they converting 1 of the lower level clubs and opening it up to all ticketholders? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 The only sports gambling I do is my fantasy football team, so I have no idea if this might attract gamblers. Still, I don't really get it. You have to place all the bets on the app, which I imagine you can do anywhere in the state. It seems like the only attraction is that there a bunch of TVs to watch the games you're betting on and the odds are also posted on some kind of LED board. I just want as many fans in the arena for Devils games as possible though, so I guess it can't hurt in that respect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevsMan84 Posted October 25, 2018 Author Share Posted October 25, 2018 I think it is the same idea where you can drink beer at home than any bar for cheaper, but going out and spending more $ at a bar seems to be more "fun" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satans Hockey Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Chuck the Duck said: Also, where is this lounge going to be located? Is this going to be where the goal bar used to be, or are they converting 1 of the lower level clubs and opening it up to all ticketholders? According to this article... http://www.njbiz.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20181025/NJBIZ01/181029930/devils-pru-center-sign-multiyear-deal-with-william-hill-team-first-in-nj-to-partner-with-sportsbook&template=mobileart "Located outside Section 18 on the Main Concourse of Newark’s Prudential Center" So if that's correct I'm guessing it's the area right under the escalators going to the upper level underneath the high school hockey jerseys. Pretty sure they have the Devils kids club thing in there in the past. It's a decently large space and makes the most sense for something like this. Edited October 25, 2018 by Satans Hockey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevsMan84 Posted October 25, 2018 Author Share Posted October 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Satans Hockey said: According to this article... http://www.njbiz.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20181025/NJBIZ01/181029930/devils-pru-center-sign-multiyear-deal-with-william-hill-team-first-in-nj-to-partner-with-sportsbook&template=mobileart "Located outside Section 18 on the Main Concourse of Newark’s Prudential Center" So if that's correct I'm guessing it's the area right under the escalators going to the upper level underneath the high school hockey jerseys. Pretty sure they have the Devils kids club thing in there in the past. It's a decently large space and makes the most sense for something like this. lol it's like bulldozing a playground to build a casino in its place. I can imagine they will set up a kids Devils area someplace else. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevsMan84 Posted October 30, 2018 Author Share Posted October 30, 2018 Per Darren Rovell "JUST IN: @CaesarsEnt becomes second gambling outfit, joining William Hill, to sponsor @NJDevils. Will have premium area space in Prudential Center to promote app downloads, 1 of 8 mobile sports betting apps in New Jersey, + encourage betting within arena." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HellOnICE Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Ok then, I don't care to see the place full of betting opportunities, but sure why not. Money is money. Dosen't hurt Josh Harris is involved with Caesars and MGM. Money from one to the other, sounds good to me. Just pay Taylor Hall. When do we get Blackjack tables 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck the Duck Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 (edited) L LOL! So they are basically turning the arena into a casino. Edited October 30, 2018 by Chuck the Duck 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satans Hockey Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 45 minutes ago, HellOnICE said: Ok then, I don't care to see the place full of betting opportunities, but sure why not. Money is money. Seems a bit much to throw in 2 right away but like ya said the money is good for the team. Those people always trying to get you to fill out a form to win a free vacation annoy me way more than this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Just now, Satans Hockey said: Seems a bit much to throw in 2 right away but like ya said the money is good for the team. Those people always trying to get you to fill out a form to win a free vacation annoy me way more than this. That times 1000. We both know you aren't giving me a free vacation, OR free tickets, OR even a free t-shirt when you make me sign up for one of those fvcking things. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilsfan118 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 No objections here, whatever makes the team money and lets us spend to the cap. I mean the Devils have a pretty unique opportunity here. Glad to see they're capitalizing on it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundstrom Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 from that ceasar's photo - and the fact that they talk about section 18 - that looks like they'd take over the old fire lounge which is actually not a bad idea. the club sections - at this point - are down to just the two center sections of the lower bowl (section 8 and section 19). they still cannot sell enough of those to fill the two sections consistently. it would make more sense to just have one (old ice lounge on players bench side - section 8 ) and then use the opposite side for an open space for this gambling/fan section. They could still have the bars and the food - just charge for them rather than include in the price. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Honestly, they made it legal, so either the team makes money from it, or someone else does. Seems like a good move on the business side of things to me. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 3 hours ago, Satans Hockey said: Seems a bit much to throw in 2 right away but like ya said the money is good for the team. Those people always trying to get you to fill out a form to win a free vacation annoy me way more than this. Ugh, that brings back memories of me actually taking the bait. The “prize” is that you have to sit in on a timeshare pitch. They called me s couple of times until I said I wasn’t interested. Basically the plot of a South Park episode. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck the Duck Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 It definitely makes sense financially for the Devils. I just hope they don't turn the experience of being at the game into basically being at a sports book, just with a live game going on. I can see the constant odds being updated on the giant scoreboard getting annoying really quick, especially if it is on there during the run of play. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpaq88 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 They already show the NHL odds during stoppages so that probably won't change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 22 minutes ago, Daniel said: Ugh, that brings back memories of me actually taking the bait. The “prize” is that you have to sit in on a timeshare pitch. They called me s couple of times until I said I wasn’t interested. Basically the plot of a South Park episode. I used to have friends who would intentionally sign up for those things and call it their vacation. They said, if you could withstand the pressure, it's basically like a 1.5 to 3 hour commitment out of a whole weekend (or sometimes 5 days). They said it was worth it. I once sat through one for a $100 gift card, free dinner and free ice cream. But, I was actually interested and did buy a time share. No way in hell I was doing it and NOT getting the free stuff!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecoffeecake Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 5 hours ago, Chuck the Duck said: L LOL! So they are basically turning the arena into a casino. 6 hours straight, talkin' clickity clickity clickity CLACK. Post of the year, thank you. @WaffleFries how about a craps table or two? We'd never leave Newark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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