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2 minutes ago, Devil Dan 56 said:

I'm guessing he calls him "PeeKee" more than once. 

On opening night. Near guarantee. 

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WHAT.

 

A.

 

DRAFT.

 

A+ is my Grade.

 

Was (A-) when we Drafted Hughes.

Turned (A) when we traded for PK without giving up anyone important.

And combine that with the other smart picks(well...with one exception) and you have an A+ draft.

 

I am happy.

I hope YOU all are happy.

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11 minutes ago, glenwo2 said:

WHAT.

 

A.

 

DRAFT.

 

A+ is my Grade.

 

Was (A-) when we Drafted Hughes.

Turned (A) when we traded for PK without giving up anyone important.

And combine that with the other smart picks(well...with one exception) and you have an A+ draft.

 

I am happy.

I hope YOU all are happy.

Just out of curiosity, which pick didn't you like? I haven't done a ton of reading on them yet. I love the Moynihan pick.

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3 minutes ago, Devil Dan 56 said:

Just out of curiosity, which pick didn't you like? I haven't done a ton of reading on them yet. I love the Moynihan pick.

Tyce Thompson.  

 

It's not a case of me disliking him or anything.

 

He seems like an ok pick but not someone I would've drafted so high. 

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1 minute ago, glenwo2 said:

Tyce Thompson.  

 

It's not a case of me disliking him or anything.

 

He seems like an ok pick but not someone I would've drafted so high. 

I would agree that if that is the only bad thing that happened, it was an A+ draft. 

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1 minute ago, mfitz804 said:

I would agree that if that is the only bad thing that happened, it was an A+ draft. 

That is why I had it as an A+.

 

That was my ONLY Gripe which says just how fvcking successful this Draft was for us.

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2 minutes ago, glenwo2 said:

That is why I had it as an A+.

 

That was my ONLY Gripe which says just how fvcking successful this Draft was for us.

That is why I prefaced my post with “I would agree”. 

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1 minute ago, mfitz804 said:

That is why I prefaced my post with “I would agree”. 

And that is why I agree with you that you agree.

 

Agreed?   (and no....sadly, I am not drunk.   I really am this stupid)

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Just now, glenwo2 said:

And that is why I agree with you that you agree.

 

Agreed?   (and no....sadly, I am not drunk.   I really am this stupid)

Honestly, you’re awesome, my man. 

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Outside Jack, my favourite picks are actually out last two. Moynihan and Pasic. Pasic especially looks to have some interesting tools.

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25 minutes ago, Chimaira_Devil_#9 said:

Outside Jack, my favourite picks are actually out last two. Moynihan and Pasic. Pasic especially looks to have some interesting tools.

I like the McCarthy pick too. Great value in the 4th.

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4 minutes ago, MadDog2020 said:

I like the McCarthy pick too. Great value in the 4th.

Obviously not all of these players will ever have an NHL impact, but this could really be a draft/weekend that we look back on years from now as a true turning point. 

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Posted (edited)

Not to cheap shot Kaapo Kakko on his language/personality, but I think what I've realized this weekend is that with all this Hughes vs. Kakko hullabaloo, it was never really discussed about Kakko's personal fit in a big market New York City team. He'd actually never been to New York before until Sunday, has kind of removed himself from some of the big media events of the last few months (did not take part in the Combine, is not based in America, so media hits are few and far between).

Having seen a few short bits and videos the Rangers have done welcoming him to the city, I wonder if any language barrier or his general (more muted) personality is any indication of him needing some significant time adjusting to a big market team like the Rangers. Sure, we joke around about how they're 3rd/4th fiddle to other sports in the region, but it's still undoubtedly going to be different than what Hughes will have to deal with. And imagine not having been to New York before?! He's just a kid, never played the North American game! Hasn't really had the opportunity to adjust the weather, travel, food, life of this place; and it seems that hasn't been as much of a talking point as I would've thought it'd be.

On the flipside, he also seems like the kind of player where none of that could really matter, it's possible he just does what he does and his quality and strengths as a player just speak for themselves. He's been a silent killer over the last year, it's possible he just does the same in the NHL.

He just seems more awkward and as not tuned up for media, as any top 1/2 pick I can remember. For the rivalry's sake, I hope both players really come out of the gate and bring NJ/NY hockey discussions back to prominence in this market.

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Glad I wasn't the only one thinking this way, and I think this article does a better job of it: https://elitesportsny.com/2019/06/24/weight-of-new-york-rangers-franchise-cannot-be-put-on-kaapo-kakko/

We know how Rangerstown regards its shiny new toys and puts all their hope and dreams into one player to turn it all around for them, it's how the NY sports media conditions people in New York to think.

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Just now, DJ Eco said:

Glad I wasn't the only one thinking this way, and I think this article does a better job of it: https://elitesportsny.com/2019/06/24/weight-of-new-york-rangers-franchise-cannot-be-put-on-kaapo-kakko/

We know how Rangerstown regards its shiny new toys and puts all their hope and dreams into one player to turn it all around for them, it's how the NY sports media conditions people in New York to think.

Definitely agree with you. I hope for his sake they don't crush the kid, not that I am wishing him any particular success in that jersey but I can imagine it will be daunting. Hopefully he gets what he needs to make the transition- personally and professionally. And a haircut.

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24 minutes ago, NJDevils1214 said:

Definitely agree with you. I hope for his sake they don't crush the kid, not that I am wishing him any particular success in that jersey but I can imagine it will be daunting. Hopefully he gets what he needs to make the transition- personally and professionally. And a haircut.

I also look at all the connections Hughes is able to come to Jersey with. He knows Hynes/Shero from USA Hockey, where he also played with Schneider. He's trained with and spoken to Hall in the last couple years, and is spending this summer in Toronto, where he said he's most likely training with Hall in some capacity as well. He has a 1st overall pick in Nico who's 2 years older and I'm sure will take him under his wing along with Hall. On day 1 of prospect camp, he'll have Patrick Moynihan and Case McCarthy by his side, 2 of his boys from USNTDP.

^ That's a BIG (and crucial) and wide-ranging support system for an 18 year old kid. You'll recall, Shero traded for Mueller a few days before we drafted Nico for another Swiss presence on the team. Even when we took Zacha, we did so knowing we had a pretty wide group of Czechs on the team to make him feel at home.

In contrast, Kaapo Kakko comes in having never been to New York before, with no Finnish veteran teammates, no connection to Finland U21/U18, some language (and I'm sure media/confidence) barrier. If I'm the Rangers, I go sign Filppula as a Boyle figure on July 1st, you absolutely can't task Kakko with figuring this all out on his own, he'll be a headcase. Of course his skill could simply shine through and he could prove everything I just said WRONG, but why risk it?

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18 minutes ago, NJDevils1214 said:

Definitely agree with you. I hope for his sake they don't crush the kid, not that I am wishing him any particular success in that jersey but I can imagine it will be daunting. Hopefully he gets what he needs to make the transition- personally and professionally. And a haircut.

Had he been drafted by any other team, he's the kind of guy I'd follow. I don't wish any ill will on an 18 year old, but I do wonder how those fans and media respond if this kid doesn't hit the ground running. 

They (the media) are already ready to give up on Lias Andersson. 

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1 hour ago, DJ Eco said:

Glad I wasn't the only one thinking this way, and I think this article does a better job of it: https://elitesportsny.com/2019/06/24/weight-of-new-york-rangers-franchise-cannot-be-put-on-kaapo-kakko/

We know how Rangerstown regards its shiny new toys and puts all their hope and dreams into one player to turn it all around for them, it's how the NY sports media conditions people in New York to think.

 

59 minutes ago, NJDevils1214 said:

Definitely agree with you. I hope for his sake they don't crush the kid, not that I am wishing him any particular success in that jersey but I can imagine it will be daunting. Hopefully he gets what he needs to make the transition- personally and professionally. And a haircut.

I made the mistake of watching the Rangers draft table behind the scenes. Right before they drafted Kakko one of them was like, "'The great one' and now 'the next one.'" And then mentioned something similar to Kakko's face on stage, even name dropping Gretzky. And then at their draft party...just forget it, they're ready to retire his jersey.

Credit to JD. He clearly realizes the kind of ridiculousness that they engage in and has tried to pump the brakes on the expectations a few times.

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49 minutes ago, NJDevils1214 said:

Definitely agree with you. I hope for his sake they don't crush the kid, not that I am wishing him any particular success in that jersey but I can imagine it will be daunting. Hopefully he gets what he needs to make the transition- personally and professionally. And a haircut.

I hate to wish ill will on an 18 year old kid...

...no I don't. He's a Ranger now. I hope he fails as hard as anyone has ever failed. Just like his barber. 

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On 3/11/2019 at 12:03 PM, Lateralous said:

While traveling for work, I extended my trip this weekend and caught junior games in Kingston on Friday night and Ottawa Saturday night.   Having gone in not knowing much about any of the teams, I got to see the 67s twice and one kid that stood out for the upcoming draft was Graeme Clarke.  He scored a lacrosse goal on Friday night that was awesome.  Unfortunately I was down low in the far end of the arena, so I didn't clearly see what happened until the replay.   Looking it up today, I've seen a few rankings that project Clarke to go in the second round.  Maybe he ends up getting picked with one of the Devils 3 second round picks.     

http://ontariohockeyleague.com/video/potn-clarke-playing-lacrosse-again

 

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Repost from March.  Clarke scored a fantastic goal the first night I saw him. 

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How do we feel about the lacrosse style goal? Fun to watch, but kind of against the spirit of the game, a little bit, no?

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25 minutes ago, mfitz804 said:

How do we feel about the lacrosse style goal? Fun to watch, but kind of against the spirit of the game, a little bit, no?

Nah, I don't think so. 

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On 6/22/2019 at 7:45 PM, WaffleFries said:

I know we already have our resident meme makers but a little competition is always a good thing right? For all you Chappelle Show fans out there.

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This is absolute gold

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Case McCarthy seems like an amazing pick. Very well spoken and personable. He reminds me of what we were hoping for when Santini was drafted: a solid stay at home defenseman who is a physical force and a great leader. Except McCarthy's game seems far superior in a number of aspects. He's a better skater, and seems way beyond where Santini was as far as shutting guys down. He also looks to have more potential to contribute on offense too. Some seem to think we will see the offense develop quite a bit while he's at BU. Surprised we got him in the 4th round.

It's really tough to pick my favorite selection that the Devils made (outside of Hughes) when McCarthy, Misyul, Moynihan, and Gritsyuk are all looking really good.

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All that has been said about how the Rangers handle their players rings true.  That NY media is a three-ring circus, and they take no prisoners. It would help Kaako if he hit the ground running once the season starts.  Post-season baseball for the Yankees wouldn't hurt, either.  That would give the media-types something else to talk about, keeping their eyes off MSG for a while....

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