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It's obvious that the ball's juiced...but damn, what a shot by JD Davis.

And gotta give some credit, looks like BVW found a solid one there.

So Matz gets staked to a 2-1 lead heading into the third...will it come as any great surprise when the Mets come up to bat in the bottom of the inning either tied or trailing?  Looks like he may get out of the inning unscathed (runner on second, two out), but man is Matz impossible to have faith in.

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Big surprise, something doesn't go Matz's way and the meltdown begins.  Hopefully he caps it right here.  2-2.

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Wow did Conforto DESTROY that one.  Two errors for the Indians in this inning.

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Kudos to Matz...did better than I would’ve expected.  Got some nice help from Justin Wilson too.

Hell of a 7th inning with the bats too, to tack on.  

8-2...damn this has been a fun night!

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1 hour ago, NJDevs4978 said:

Heard Bonigno say during his open that Matz is 6-0 with a sub-3 ERA at home, geez he’d fit right in with the Cubs on that home/road split.

Matz' career road ERA is almost a full run higher (4.52) than his home ERA (3.54). 

But yeah, INSANE difference this season...2.07 at home in 61.0 IP, and 6.28 on the road in 61.1 IP (he's allowed 16 dingers in road starts as well).  Almost so bad that you gotta wonder if Mickey starts trying to find way to bypass Matz's turn on the road...he's made 13 road starts, and only five of them can really be considered good or better. 

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Keep waiting to see what’s so special about Stroman.  And waiting.  And waiting.  

At least he minimized the damage in the third and had a very quick fourth though.  Pitch count suddenly isn’t too bad.  

But it doesn’t matter, because Stroman is done for the night.  Left hamstring tightness.  I know the Mets have gone 3-0 in his starts, but he has been mostly maddening as a Met.  Tons of hits allowed and just not impressive.  

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Huge knock by Lagares there, well done.  Tie ballgame.

And now Guillorme drives in Lagares.  And just like that, Pletko’s previously low pitch count is quickly normalizing.  Guy had only thrown 27 pitches through the first three innings.

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Ugh, and with hamstrings (in any sport) you just don't know. They're delicate, tricky, annoying and seem to recur often.

I still don't get how he kept his era under 3 in the AL this year. I mean has he been wretched? No. But it seems like he's quite hittable. Maybe he'd just been having an exceptionally lucky year. But guys are always making contact with him. Never seen him yet as a Met in full command, keeping hitters off balance...breezing through parts of the order. He just labors too often

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I was wondering WTF Familia was doing in the game in the fifth inning semi-paying attention in a bar...oy Stroman.  So far it's been all hat, no cattle. I really thought this would be the kind of guy that could handle NY but hey if you want that big contract from the Yankees you should start pitching better for the Mets :P

LOL at the Indians missing the game-ending DP there, that would be a Met-like mistake.

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JD Davis what is he hitting .400 at home this year? Awesome clutch at bat, coming back from 0-2. It was shaping up to be a heartbreaking loss with Avilan needing just one more strike to get out of the top of the 10th and surrendering a bomb to Santana. Rosario gets things cooking right away in the bottom of the inning and the Mets just rode the wave from there.

Great job from the pen overall tonight. When you hold the Indians bats silent for as long as they did that's an A+ outing for a pen that had to be used from the 4th inning into extras

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2 hours ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said:

Huge knock by Lagares there, well done.  Tie ballgame.

And now Guillorme drives in Lagares.  And just like that, Pletko’s previously low pitch count is quickly normalizing.  Guy had only thrown 27 pitches through the first three innings.

It was looking for a while like it was just one of those games where the bats are dead and some nobody pretty much has the game of his life against us. I'm really liking the fact that when the big sluggers are not getting it done, that the Guillorme's and Lagares and Panik's step in and get things done. Heck Lagares is back to looking like his old self in the field again too

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10 hours ago, NJDevs4978 said:

I was wondering WTF Familia was doing in the game in the fifth inning semi-paying attention in a bar...oy Stroman.  So far it's been all hat, no cattle. I really thought this would be the kind of guy that could handle NY but hey if you want that big contract from the Yankees you should start pitching better for the Mets :P

LOL at the Indians missing the game-ending DP there, that would be a Met-like mistake.

Obviously any time you're able to go 26-9 over any 35-game stretch in the majors, a lot of things are going your way, and of course, you have to be getting a little magic too...especially when you were 40-51 before going on such a tear...not like there was much that pointed to the Mets ever doing THIS well...I wouldn't have been that shocked to see them possibly flirt with 80 wins as the season wound down, but now of course they definitely have a shot at 86 to 88 or so, which couldn't have been more of a pipe dream at the ASB.

But what's been ironic is that teams are losing games to the Mets in the EXACT fashion that I would frankly expect of the METS.  The first two games of this Mets - Indians series sums it up perfectly.  Would it have stunned ANY Mets fans if this team had lost the first two games of this series exactly the way the Indians have?  Costly defensive mistakes.  Bullpen woes.  A painful extra inning loss. 

And when the Mets lost three in a row to fall to 61-59...yeah, easy to think that maybe this thing is finally falling apart, and the team is falling back to Earth.  Sure, it helped that the Royals were there to help the Mets pull out of it...but then the Mets go and win five out of six, and two against the Indians.  I still don't claim to know how long this will go on, but suffice it to say that with this latest winning streak, it's going on longer than I ever could've expected. 

9 hours ago, NJDevs4978 said:

Wow, what a finish...you just had the feeling though once the Indians missed that DP and the Mets tied the game they'd find a way to win it.  JD is the man again.

Two things that are really helping BVW right now, in that people aren't talking about him:  1) All of the recent winning, and 2) JD Davis and Wilson Ramos (guess you can throw Justin Wilson in there too).  These moves have actually worked out (Ramos has really made that signing look a LOT better in recent weeks), and in the case of Davis, that one has the look of being potentially stellar.

And to be fair, BVW (and of course Jeffy will happily remind anyone within earshot how much HE was part of this whole thing) did re-sign deGrom, who in typical deGrom fashion, has done nothing but prove that he was worth every penny.

BVW should REALLY count his luckies that this season has turned so drastically.  Because in many ways, it's very much been in spite of him.  The Cano/Diaz trade is still a complete disaster.  The Familia signing is still rotten as can be, though he's had a pretty decent August.  We know the deal with Lowrie, and even if Broxton (remember him?) was picked up for spare parts, that had the look of turning out exactly the way it did...at least BVW didn't pull a Sandy and just give the guy a zillion chances before pulling the plug.  And just like Sandy cashed in on Omar's players, BVW is doing the same with some of Sandy's guys (McNeil, Alonso, the sudden accelerated development of Rosario, Syndergaard, etc).  And it's looking like BVW's latest deal (for Stroman) may not work out all that well either...and maybe that shouldn't come as any great surprise.  For one, Stroman's always been hittable, and the Mets' D isn't terribly conducive to guys who allow hitters to put a lot of balls in play.  For another, Stroman's 2.91 ERA this season for Toronto was a bit of a mirage, due to his outpitching his peripherals...his FIP with Toronto was 3.51, and his BABIP with them was .293.  Regression was to be expected with him, and it's happening. 

BUT, the one thing Stroman is doing here that he's not known for is walking people...and that's the kiss of death for guys who give up a lot of hits.  So if he manages to avoid a trip to the IL, hopefully he gets that under control very soon.  But I guess we should count our blessings...as meh as he's been, the Mets have won all four games that he's started.  So at least there's that. 

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Was obviously hoping for 6-3 for this homestand, and they're already 3-0 to start it.  Just really REALLY hope this Atlanta series doesn't derail them...that team is just always such a friggin' thorn.  Mets have gone 5-8 against them so far this season (this after winning their first two games against them in 2019)...and have yet to win a series vs. the Braves...so far, the Mets are 0-3-1 in series play against the Braves.  The good news is that the final two series against the Braves will be played at Citi.  Hopefully that helps.

So here's a quick breakdown of the remaining schedule:

35 games left:  23 home games, 12 road games

19 divisional games left:  3 vs. Atl, 3 @ Phi, 3 @ Washington, 3 vs. Phi, 4 vs. Miami, 3 vs. Atl

Records against divisional opponents:  5-8 vs Braves, 4-9 vs Phils, 11-4 vs Marlins, 10-6 vs Nats (30-27 total)

Mets have won 13 out of their last 14 home games.  They've won 13 out of their last 20 road games.

 

Still think they top out at around 86 wins...mostly because it just seems to be so insanely difficult to keep winning at a .750 clip (like they've done over their past 36 games).  Gotta figure they'll cool off sometime...and their upcoming schedule (see below) is VERY tough. 

They're now 67-60.  19-16 for the rest of the season gets them to 86-76.  Yeah, goes without saying that they can't really level off.  They probably need to go at least 22-13 or thereabouts...or if they can't do that, then sweep both the Nats and Cubs (and win 5 or more of their games against the Phillies).  89 wins should be the bare minimum target.

9/8 is really THE final date, where we'll know if this thing can actually still happen.  After this homestand concludes, the Mets have nine games, 6 of which are on the road:  @Phi, @Wash, vs. Phi.  Three 3-game series.  So it's really ALL of these next fifteen games which are crucial.  They've done a hell of a job just to make these fifteen games matter so much...but we're about to find out if they can keep defying logic, and keep stringing so many wins together. 

 

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10 minutes ago, NJDevs4978 said:

Not unless he does it himself lol

This game fits the deGrom meme to a tee.

I'd say more fits the BRAVES mold...Mets have been hitting for the most part...things just have this amazing way of never going their way against the Braves...of course a guy who's done next to nothing against everyone else finds it against the Mets.  Though sure, not like the Mets don't waste a boatload of deGrom's starts.  It does completely defy all logic.

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Arrrrrrrrrgh Conforto...

And Diaz hits his first batter...damn this fvcking guy...

Gets out of it with two Ks.  Maybe that FINALLY gets him going.

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3 minutes ago, '7' said:

Every year predictably without fail the Mets lose at least 3 like this against Atlanta.

I just hope this one doesn't stop our momentum. We need to rebound tomorrow asap

Gotta give the Mets' BP credit...they've all held up their end tonight.  Met bats have come up minuscule tonight...really feels like they should have been able to plate a run.  Conforto's penchant for whiffing in situations that SCREAM for him to put the fvcking ball in play is so maddening.  You can see it coming a million miles away. 

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