njbuff Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 The Devils need to move on from Hall NOW. They could just as easily be in the running for the first overall pick (AGAIN) with or without him. Might as well get something for him now and if it's the top prospect from Colorado, so be it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 5 hours ago, MB3 said: We got 4 years of a 24 year old Taylor Hall for Adam Larsson. If you think you're getting more than that for 1/2 of a year for a 28 year old Taylor Hall, you're setting yourself up for disappointment. I would be SHOCKED if a Taylor Hall rental returned Bowen Byram. I think it really depends on how close Sakic thinks they are. That franchise is stacked on the blue line. If Sakic thinks they are one Taylor Hall away from a Cup, he may just do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, MadDog2020 said: I think it really depends on how close Sakic thinks they are. That franchise is stacked on the blue line. If Sakic thinks they are one Taylor Hall away from a Cup, he may just do it. I have never once read anything from any of the legit writers that have been reporting on this that Byram is untouchable. And if hockey trades were based on transitive logic (we got Hall four years ago for Adam Larsson, so we will necessarily get less than Adam Larsson now that Hall's a UFA at the end of the season) he wouldn't have been traded to us in the first place. Edited December 6, 2019 by Daniel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDfan1711 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 5 hours ago, mfitz804 said: What makes you say he’s a “relatively young 28” after he missed nearly a full season with an injury? If anything he’s trending the other way. Well, I said he's relatively young for the reason I mentioned - some guys have played a ton of playoff games on top of their regular season games, but that isn't the case for Hall. He's had basically none. I didn't really think of his missed season last year, that's true, and I could see why you could look at it that way, but if anything you could also say that that missed season is another reason and example of how he doesn't have a lot of 'miles' on him. Sure the injury isn't a good thing, but it's a year he had off healing one part of his body rather than putting his entire body (and mind) through a grueling 82 game season (and possibly playoffs). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagknife Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 Something to consider as we all weigh the “we need guys with NHL experience” argument when thinking about trading a current roster player: Lets assume that We’re trading Hall and not getting an NHL-right-now guy back in the deal. I think we can stipulate that we’re throwing away this season and letting Nas show management what he’s got. At that point, who cares if we have one line of NHL regulars and 9 guys getting their shot? Sure, we’ll get stomped most nights but would that be much different than what’s happening now with 9-12 guys who belong in the NHL and a handful of “Jesus Christ just get off the team already” players? 30-40 games of “wow these guys might be good, someday” would be a lot more fun for me anyway, than 30-40 of “holy sh!t you shouldn’t suck this badly, what the fvck!” so yeah... that’s my take Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 2 hours ago, jagknife said: Lets assume that We’re trading Hall and not getting an NHL-right-now guy back in the deal. I think we can stipulate that we’re throwing away this season and letting Nas show management what he’s got. At that point, who cares if we have one line of NHL regulars and 9 guys getting their shot? Sure, we’ll get stomped most nights but would that be much different than what’s happening now with 9-12 guys who belong in the NHL and a handful of “Jesus Christ just get off the team already” players? so yeah... that’s my take That was the 2018-19 Devils, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagknife Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 49 minutes ago, mfitz804 said: That was the 2018-19 Devils, no? I... I mean... you’re not wrong... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crisis Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 I... I mean... you’re not wrong... It was not a lot of fun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagknife Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 (edited) Pucks and pitchforks blogger, was retweeted by someone I follow:, so take it with a grain of salt, or even the entire salt shaker, obviously Edited December 7, 2019 by jagknife Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicomo Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 If it is for Byram what’s the rules for calling him up? Does he have to stay in the WHL all season now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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devlman Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 There is absolutely no way Sakic gives us Byram. That said, if he were dumb enough to send him our way we’d have a defense backbone with Byram and Smith with a center backbone of Hughes and Hischier. Cups for the next decade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aitchmack Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 21 minutes ago, devlman said: There is absolutely no way Sakic gives us Byram. That said, if he were dumb enough to send him our way we’d have a defense backbone with Byram and Smith with a center backbone of Hughes and Hischier. Cups for the next decade. For Byram I'd be happy to retain a large chunk of Halls salary and add another player (Wood?). Not that there's much chance they even entertain the idea. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevils1214 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 34 minutes ago, Aitchmack said: For Byram I'd be happy to retain a large chunk of Halls salary and add another player (Wood?). Not that there's much chance they even entertain the idea. Except Colorado has more cap space than we do so it does next to nothing to sweeten the deal unless the owners just don't feel like paying. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aitchmack Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 13 minutes ago, NJDevils1214 said: Except Colorado has more cap space than we do so it does next to nothing to sweeten the deal unless the owners just don't feel like paying. Fair point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgeControl Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Let's do this trade thing sooner than later.. a defensive prospect, a first now, and another if he resigns.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilsfan118 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Yeah just get it done, already. He honestly shouldn't be playing at this point. Can't risk him getting hurt. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilMinder Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 I feel like the end of Taylor hall will be right before the holiday freeze on the 19th. Shero is probably weighing and waiting on all offers. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 thing is if we trade with Colorado i have a hard time not seeing him sign an extension. He said before Mackinon was his fav player to watch, obviously he's want to play with him and they have a decent chance at a cup so, can't see why it wouldnt happen 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crisis Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 6 hours ago, SterioDesign said: thing is if we trade with Colorado i have a hard time not seeing him sign an extension. He said before Mackinon was his fav player to watch, obviously he's want to play with him and they have a decent chance at a cup so, can't see why it wouldnt happen Just the other day Mackinnon said this.. Quote “We have guys that we wouldn’t (otherwise) be able to bring in,” MacKinnon said. “On my next deal, I’ll take less again. Because I want to win with this group.” Taking less doesn't work unless everyone does it and I think Taylor Hall would blow up that salary structure. Not saying they can't make it work, we know they have cap space for days, it just seems like it could cause some turbulence. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevils1214 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, Crisis said: Just the other day Mackinnon said this.. Taking less doesn't work unless everyone does it and I think Taylor Hall would blow up that salary structure. Not saying they can't make it work, we know they have cap space for days, it just seems like it could cause some turbulence. I'm still not convinced by him saying "taking less". By the time his deal is up and the cap is upward of 90mm or something so "taking less" could be a half or quarter million when guys of his caliber are making 12-13mm AAV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevsMan84 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 On 12/7/2019 at 3:41 PM, titans04 said: I still think Hall is still much better than any of those other guys. I also believe that Hall will be gone before the holiday roster freeze. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgeControl Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 NY post proposes zajac to isles. Send greene with him. Imo, Two guys that deserve another playoff appearance ..good devils Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Travis has another year yet on his deal, not a traditional rental situation. I’d hate to see him go and not retire a Devil at this point, but it is what it is. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDfan1711 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 6 minutes ago, mfitz804 said: Travis has another year yet on his deal, not a traditional rental situation. I’d hate to see him go and not retire a Devil at this point, but it is what it is. I'd also hate to see him not retire a Devil, and I just don't know what he would bring to another team that's looking to make a playoff push. He's the type of guy you want in the regular season - he's durable, and good at faceoffs and penalty killing. What he isn't, is physical, fast, or a pure goal scorer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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