Mitico12 45 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Just listened to Shero's press conference in its entirety - Well, I think either he's delusional or he is really in the beginning phases of denial for what he has done thus far with this team. He kept rambling on without any sense of conviction for any of the things he was communicating. Is this guy literally out of touch? What I find interesting was that he suggested, in his various rumblings, that Harris and Blitzer essentially had to give a blessing for him to trade Hall. Which for me suggests that either A) Blitzer and Harris essentially told Shero there was no way they would spend that money on Hall in the offseason so therefore, trade him or B ) They aren't as cheap as we're thinking they are because they had to approve Shero eating salary for Hall, which essentially would impact the bottom line of the organization. I had a smidgeon of faith in Shero before all this, but after listening to him, I for certain think this guy is not the man to lead the NJ Devils forward. If we're doing "Rebuild 2.0" let's get proven NJ Devils blood in there - Stevens, Brodeur, Elias...etc. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aylbert 374 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 15 minutes ago, Mitico12 said: If we're doing "Rebuild 2.0" let's get proven NJ Devils blood in there - Stevens, Brodeur, Elias...etc. Let. Go. Of. The. Past. They are all legends on the ice. They are not legendary coaches/management. 8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Devil Dan 56 2,382 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, aylbert said: Let. Go. Of. The. Past. They are all legends on the ice. They are not legendary coaches/management. This. The past is the past. Cramming former players into coaching or gm positions will do nothing 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MadDog2020 8,880 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 https://thehockeynews.com/news/article/what-the-new-jersey-devils-are-getting-in-prospect-kevin-bahl 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hit the post 173 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Who cares at this point he's gone so lets move forward ….And hope for the best instead of 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nicomo 6,352 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 1 hour ago, aylbert said: Let. Go. Of. The. Past. They are all legends on the ice. They are not legendary coaches/management. It’s funny to me they want some “proven” blood to run the team, but we should get rid of the GM who built a Stanley Cup winner, and go with ex-players who other than Marty, have absolutely no experience on that side of things. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SterioDesign 3,292 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 4 hours ago, Mitico12 said: Just listened to Shero's press conference in its entirety - Well, I think either he's delusional or he is really in the beginning phases of denial for what he has done thus far with this team. He kept rambling on without any sense of conviction for any of the things he was communicating. Is this guy literally out of touch? What I find interesting was that he suggested, in his various rumblings, that Harris and Blitzer essentially had to give a blessing for him to trade Hall. Which for me suggests that either A) Blitzer and Harris essentially told Shero there was no way they would spend that money on Hall in the offseason so therefore, trade him or B ) They aren't as cheap as we're thinking they are because they had to approve Shero eating salary for Hall, which essentially would impact the bottom line of the organization. I had a smidgeon of faith in Shero before all this, but after listening to him, I for certain think this guy is not the man to lead the NJ Devils forward. If we're doing "Rebuild 2.0" let's get proven NJ Devils blood in there - Stevens, Brodeur, Elias...etc. i love how you write a long post saying someone is delusional and out of touch etc... Then go and suggest we get Stevens, Brodeur, Elias etc etc here. lol I mean... you do remember John Maclean was one of the best Devils player in history right? You know... John 9-22-2 Maclean.... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MadDog2020 8,880 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 7 hours ago, DevsMan84 said: Sorry, but I am struggling to believe anything Ray is saying. You’re not alone..... 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Devil Dan 56 2,382 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 56 minutes ago, MadDog2020 said: You’re not alone..... Yeah I think faith in Shero is dropping quite a bit these days. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Eerie3 0 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Maybe we should scoop up Kovalchuk XD Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MadDog2020 8,880 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 33 minutes ago, Devil Dan 56 said: Yeah I think faith in Shero is dropping quite a bit these days. I didn’t watch the press conference, but I don’t need to.... that tweet tells me all I need to know. Shero is either lying through his teeth, or he’s not as bright as previously thought. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
titans04 1,268 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 1 minute ago, MadDog2020 said: I didn’t watch the press conference, but I don’t need to.... that tweet tells me all I need to know. Shero is either lying through his teeth, or he’s not as bright as previously thought. Can I go with both? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
titans04 1,268 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Working out the kinks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nicomo 6,352 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 2 hours ago, titans04 said: Working out the kinks. The extra number on his jersey weighed him down... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EdgeControl 884 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Game winning assist on a forced turn over already paying dividends .. I have zero I'll towards him other than my kid bought his Jersey. My wrath is now focused on ray Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Satans Hockey 3,700 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 I'm not rooting for him, I'd rather see the Coyotes fall out of playoff contention so we can grab a lower draft pick this year. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Devilsfan118 3,004 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 (edited) 11 hours ago, MadDog2020 said: I didn’t watch the press conference, but I don’t need to.... that tweet tells me all I need to know. Shero is either lying through his teeth, or he’s not as bright as previously thought. Honest to God the man rambles worse than Dano when asked even simple questions. I'm not sure if this is a new thing or if this is how he's always been, I admittedly haven't watched any pressers from his days with the Penguins. It's impossible to listen to his answers without getting confused. Really difficult to follow his logic at times. Edited December 18, 2019 by Devilsfan118 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
titans04 1,268 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Watched the AZ game - couldn't sleep. To say their broadcast team thinks they were getting the MVP Hall is an understatement - so over the top. He was invisible until with about 4 mins left he made a great play getting past the D and digging the puck out and from behind the goal made a pretty pass leading to the GWG. So he's off and flying in his debut. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NJDevils1214 3,112 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Satans Hockey said: I'm not rooting for him, I'd rather see the Coyotes fall out of playoff contention so we can grab a lower draft pick this year. But if they make the playoffs and win a round the conditional pick goes to a second from a third...and if they do well enough to re-sign Hall it becomes a first ...so it's better for NJ to hope they do well. Edited December 18, 2019 by NJDevils1214 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
slasher72 440 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, NJDevils1214 said: But if they make the playoffs and win a round the conditional pick goes to a second from a 3rd...and if they do well enough to re-sign Hall it becomes a first ...so it's better for NJ to hope they do well. Hell, I hope they gel as a team and make it to the Conference Finals before getting bounced. I dont want them to win the Cup or Hall will leave, having completed his mission. I'd rather he get a taste of success and want to come back for more, signing a long-term deal with the Yotes. Edited December 18, 2019 by slasher72 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NJDevs4978 813 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 (edited) 19 hours ago, Nicomo said: It’s funny to me they want some “proven” blood to run the team, but we should get rid of the GM who built a Stanley Cup winner, and go with ex-players who other than Marty, have absolutely no experience on that side of things. Shero didn’t build squat, he fine tuned around two of the top five players in the sport. Rutherford won more Cups in fewer years there. Edited December 18, 2019 by NJDevs4978 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MB3 5,451 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 9 minutes ago, NJDevs4978 said: Shero didn’t build squat, he fine tuned around two of the top five players in the sport. Rutherford won more Cups in fewer years there. The best players always win Stanley Cups? Worddddd that sounds dope, congrats in advance to McDavid and Kucherov and MacKinnon. Oh and if this goes to other sports, I'm pumped to find out how many Super Bowls Marino won. And Mike Trout! Modern day Mickey Mantle! He must have five or six World Series! 37 minutes ago, NJDevils1214 said: But if they make the playoffs and win a round the conditional pick goes to a second from a third...and if they do well enough to re-sign Hall it becomes a first ...so it's better for NJ to hope they do well. This just seems unlikely to me, so I'll be rooting for them to suffer a few major injuries and miss the playoffs entirely, giving us a top-15ish pick. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NJDevs4978 813 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 (edited) Because baseball and football are totally comparable to hockey. Kucherov and Mackinnon have been a big part of elite teams and still have plenty of time. Top five players in the sport do tend to win a Cup or three. Shero is basically the Mike McCarthy of NHL GM’s, parachuted in with an all time great (really two in Pitt) and only has one in over a decade. Edited December 18, 2019 by NJDevs4978 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel 1,653 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 15 minutes ago, MB3 said: The best players always win Stanley Cups? Worddddd that sounds dope, congrats in advance to McDavid and Kucherov and MacKinnon. Oh and if this goes to other sports, I'm pumped to find out how many Super Bowls Marino won. And Mike Trout! Modern day Mickey Mantle! He must have five or six World Series! Of all the people who I never figured would die on the hill of defending Ray Shero as the architect of Pittsburgh's success it was you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NJDevils1214 3,112 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 I'll root for the Yotes to do well to help NJ. Idk why you guys would want to root against them other than sour grapes. I hope Hall does well. He gave some good years here before the coaching staff really fvcked things up. I don't blame him for wanting to leave this dumpster fire and win. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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