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16 hours ago, SterioDesign said:

Deep down i just wish Greene would be enough of a leader and selfless enough to just get the clue and give away his C to who it really belongs to.

This is what I was thinking in my post - not that the Devils would strip Greene of the 'C', but that he'd realize this is Taylor Hall's team for the next decade if Hall chooses to stick around and volunteer the captaincy as a show of respect to him and the organization.

It'd make me respect Greene a whole hell of a lot, honestly.  But for all I know, not being in the room of course, it might just make things awkward or something.

Again, pipe dream.  I know this isn't how the real world works most of the time.

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15 minutes ago, Devilsfan118 said:

This is what I was thinking in my post - not that the Devils would strip Greene of the 'C', but that he'd realize this is Taylor Hall's team for the next decade if Hall chooses to stick around and volunteer the captaincy as a show of respect to him and the organization.

It'd make me respect Greene a whole hell of a lot, honestly.  But for all I know, not being in the room of course, it might just make things awkward or something.

Again, pipe dream.  I know this isn't how the real world works most of the time.

Everyone is assuming that Hall is the next captain, I don’t even know if that is true. But if it is, he can wait a year. You have a team (half) full of guys who have only known Andy as their captain. Him losing the C, either because he’s stripped of it or because he volunteers it because he’s “supposed to” could upset some people. There should be loyalty going both ways. 

Next year he’ll be gone and you can pin it on whomever you like without  potentially causing that issue. 

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3 hours ago, mfitz804 said:

Everyone is assuming that Hall is the next captain, I don’t even know if that is true. But if it is, he can wait a year. You have a team (half) full of guys who have only known Andy as their captain. Him losing the C, either because he’s stripped of it or because he volunteers it because he’s “supposed to” could upset some people. There should be loyalty going both ways. 

Next year he’ll be gone and you can pin it on whomever you like without  potentially causing that issue. 

Well you don't factor in how upset i am to have Greene as the captain of my team while you look around the league and all the captains are studs.

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2 minutes ago, SterioDesign said:

Well you don't factor in how upset i am to have Greene as the captain of my team while you look around the league and all the captains are studs.

This makes zero sense. Who gives a fvck who other teams pick? Honestly, who gives a fvck who the captain is at all? Outside of the team, it’s completely irrelevant. 

 

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5 minutes ago, mfitz804 said:

This makes zero sense. Who gives a fvck who other teams pick? Honestly, who gives a fvck who the captain is at all? Outside of the team, it’s completely irrelevant. 

 

Well i thought it was obviously but i guess not lol

You may want to put your sarcasm censor on my man 

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4 minutes ago, Crisis said:

So you do care that Greene is the captain or you don't?  Now I'm confused.

I mean really, he said yesterday: 

 

21 hours ago, SterioDesign said:

Deep down i just wish Greene would be enough of a leader and selfless enough to just get the clue and give away his C to who it really belongs to.

There's no way Greene looks around the league and look at all the captains and think he belongs in that group lol

So I don’t really see where sarcasm comes into it. 

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7 minutes ago, Crisis said:

So you do care that Greene is the captain or you don't?  Now I'm confused.

 

3 minutes ago, mfitz804 said:

I mean really, he said yesterday: 

 

So I don’t really see where sarcasm comes into it. 

Doesn't take much to confuse you guys lol

I'd pick Hall or many other guys over Greene as captain... but If you really thought i was "upset" and that i was saying it should be factored in along what the players were thinking... not really sure what to tell ya lol

 

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5 hours ago, mfitz804 said:

Everyone is assuming that Hall is the next captain, I don’t even know if that is true. But if it is, he can wait a year. You have a team (half) full of guys who have only known Andy as their captain. Him losing the C, either because he’s stripped of it or because he volunteers it because he’s “supposed to” could upset some people. There should be loyalty going both ways. 

Next year he’ll be gone and you can pin it on whomever you like without  potentially causing that issue. 

The ONLY thing that moderately worries me, is if the team is not entirely sold on Smith, for whatever reason, after this year, I could see them bringing Greene back as a bottom pair/PK specialist (as he should be entering this season) or 7th defender (I'm not sure if he's ready to call it quits, so that might not be an option for him). If they keep him around, we'll have more time of him wearing the C and not passing it on to the next viable candidate, whomever it may be.

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10 minutes ago, jagknife said:

The ONLY thing that moderately worries me, is if the team is not entirely sold on Smith, for whatever reason, after this year, I could see them bringing Greene back as a bottom pair/PK specialist (as he should be entering this season) or 7th defender (I'm not sure if he's ready to call it quits, so that might not be an option for him). If they keep him around, we'll have more time of him wearing the C and not passing it on to the next viable candidate, whomever it may be.

And that matters because...

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So forgot to post about this after the game... but did anyone else panic a bit when Hall got his bell rung the other night?  

I know I'm sounding like a broken record here, but.. the nightmare scenario of Hall getting hurt, being untradable, and then walking in the summer seems all-too-plausible to me.

Have to reach resolution on this one way or the other ASAP in my opinion.

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2 minutes ago, Devilsfan118 said:

So forgot to post about this after the game... but did anyone else panic a bit when Hall got his bell rung the other night?  

I know I'm sounding like a broken record here, but.. the nightmare scenario of Hall getting hurt, being untradable, and then walking in the summer seems all-too-plausible to me.

Have to reach resolution on this one way or the other ASAP in my opinion.

No I didn’t. Because I’m tired of everyone hitting panic buttons for everything. This is the most paranoid fan base on earth. It’s exhausting.

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22 hours ago, MadDog2020 said:

No I didn’t. Because I’m tired of everyone hitting panic buttons for everything. This is the most paranoid fan base on earth. It’s exhausting.

Eh fair enough, but I don't think being concerned about managing our team's assets necessarily equates to being paranoid. 

Hall's injury history is what it is.

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2 minutes ago, MB3 said:

The part about him being fascinated with Tavares' FA process makes me want to vomit. If it ever gets to that point, it'll be a categorical failure on the part of Ray Shero. 

Yeah, I don't want to sound 'paranoid' but I didn't get the warm-and-fuzzies reading this.

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2 hours ago, MB3 said:

Zero part of that article, from a writer I respect, make me think Taylor Hall is signing here.

The part about him being fascinated with Tavares' FA process makes me want to vomit. If it ever gets to that point, it'll be a categorical failure on the part of Ray Shero. 

To be honest, with Hall nothing has changed for me. It has always been the case since he arrived that this team would have to start making the playoffs and being competitive for him to stay. 

During the playoff season my hopes were high, after last year my expectations dropped to basically zero. The first half of this season was crucial. 

I fully expect Hall to be traded. 

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Just now, Chimaira_Devil_#9 said:

To be honest, with Hall nothing has changed for me. It has always been the case since he arrived that this team would have to start making the playoffs and being competitive for him to stay. 

During the playoff season my hopes were high, after last year my expectations dropped to basically zero. The first half of this season was crucial. 

I fully expect Hall to be traded. 

Yup, as do I. 

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2 hours ago, MB3 said:

Zero part of that article, from a writer I respect, make me think Taylor Hall is signing here.

The part about him being fascinated with Tavares' FA process makes me want to vomit. If it ever gets to that point, it'll be a categorical failure on the part of Ray Shero. 

Not really sure he's said anything new, just fills out a couple paragraphs with fluff to keep curious Canadian readers coming back for more next time he deals more fluff; typical Canadian hockey media. Any one of us could've written that article.

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