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38 minutes ago, NJDevils1214 said:

Yea, disagree on that right now. We're a lot better than we were last week for sure, but not quite that good.

Do you think STL is that much better than us? I don’t. 

We just need Cory to return to form, or Blackwood to go on a Binnington type run. Or ideally, both. 

The rest of the team is shaping up nicely. 

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7 minutes ago, Nicomo said:

Do you think STL is that much better than us? I don’t. 

We just need Cory to return to form, or Blackwood to go on a Binnington type run. Or ideally, both. 

The rest of the team is shaping up nicely. 

A lot of people here really have Grass is Greener syndrome. 

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11 minutes ago, Nicomo said:

Do you think STL is that much better than us? I don’t. 

We just need Cory to return to form, or Blackwood to go on a Binnington type run. Or ideally, both. 

The rest of the team is shaping up nicely. 

We're talking about who has the best chance. Obviously, no one saw STL happening. There is a big difference between being seen as a cup contender and making a historical run. It's not like those happen every year. 

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no it's not about it always being greener it's believing there are teams that are much closer than we are to winning a cup and how much sense would it make to acknowledge we're a few years away which makes us the best option?  It doesn't add up.  Again though I think he stays but not because we're his best chance to win.  Not for nothing MD is he's the one and only here why give him an artificial deadline to sign by or you're willing to ship him out?  

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1 minute ago, NJDevils1214 said:

We're talking about who has the best chance. Obviously, no one saw STL happening. There is a big difference between being seen as a cup contender and making a historical run. It's not like those happen every year. 

Right, but the team’s that have had the best chances (TB, TOR, SJ, NSH, etc) the last few years haven’t won sh!t. Now maybe Hall thinks he can be that missing piece, but I also think he’s smart enough to know there’s no guarantees. At the end of the day it will be how much he trusts Shero. 

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20 minutes ago, Nicomo said:

Do you think STL is that much better than us? I don’t. 

We just need Cory to return to form, or Blackwood to go on a Binnington type run. Or ideally, both. 

The rest of the team is shaping up nicely. 

Well they did win the cup after being junk into January, and while we stunk we won the ping pong ball lottery twice in the past three years. 

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1 minute ago, titans04 said:

Well they did win the cup after being junk into January, and while we stunk we won the ping pong ball lottery twice in the past three years. 

So that’s a yes, you think STL has a significantly better roster than NJ?

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1 minute ago, Nicomo said:

So that’s a yes, you think STL has a significantly better roster than NJ?

Yes I think stanley  cup champs  have  a better team.   You're essentially saying you feel we're better than the cup champs?  We're the two time pingpong ball champs. Again he still stays imo.

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11 minutes ago, titans04 said:

no it's not about it always being greener it's believing there are teams that are much closer than we are to winning a cup and how much sense would it make to acknowledge we're a few years away which makes us the best option?  It doesn't add up.  Again though I think he stays but not because we're his best chance to win.  Not for nothing MD is he's the one and only here why give him an artificial deadline to sign by or you're willing to ship him out?  

Because every day he hasn’t signed he gets asked about it. Everyone else gets asked about it. It then becomes a distraction. Then there always the possibility he gets hurt, tanking his value. Not dealing with that sh!t. Sign by the end of the summer, or be traded. Hall’s choice.

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2 minutes ago, titans04 said:

Yes I think stanley  cup champs  have  a better team.   You're essentially saying you feel we're better than the cup champs?  We're the two time pingpong ball champs. Again he still stays imo.

Well, I disagree they have a significantly better roster. They have a good defense, but we just added a Norris trophy winner, and Ty Smith will be on the team this year. The big difference, and the reason they went on such a run, was goaltending. But I’m hopeful Blackwood is the guy. 

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9 minutes ago, titans04 said:

Yes I think stanley  cup champs  have  a better team.   You're essentially saying you feel we're better than the cup champs?  We're the two time pingpong ball champs. Again he still stays imo.

Stanley Cup Champs, better than a team that missed the playoffs by a mile? Are you sure??

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We’re not talking about who the best team was during the playoffs, but who has the better rosters overall. STL does not have a better roster than TB or TOR. 

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8 minutes ago, mfitz804 said:

Stanley Cup Champs, better than a team that missed the playoffs by a mile? Are you sure??

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Would they have made the playoffs if ROR or Tarasenko missed half the season? 

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Just now, Nicomo said:

Would they have made the playoffs if ROR or Tarasenko missed half the season? 

Probably not. Would we have won the Stanley Cup if Taylor Hall didn’t miss half the season?

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3 minutes ago, mfitz804 said:

Probably not. Would we have won the Stanley Cup if Taylor Hall didn’t miss half the season?

Probably not. I like our chances much more now with Hughes, Subban, and Smith, though. 

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The last couple times the Devils made a splash as big as trading for Subban good things happened. Kovalchuk helped them make a Cup run, and Hall helped them return to relevance, make the playoffs for the first time in forever, and won an MVP. Here’s hoping the third time is the charm...

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14 minutes ago, Nicomo said:

Probably not. I like our chances much more now with Hughes, Subban, and Smith, though. 

Subban sure. The other two guys have proven nothing to me. Neither has made an NHL team yet. I’m hopeful. 

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6 minutes ago, Nicomo said:

The last couple times the Devils made a splash as big as trading for Subban good things happened. Kovalchuk helped them make a Cup run, and Hall helped them return to relevance, make the playoffs for the first time in forever, and won an MVP. Here’s hoping the third time is the charm...

 

 

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Just now, mfitz804 said:

Subban sure. The other two guys have proven nothing to me. Neither has made an NHL team yet. I’m hopeful. 

Well sure, but Binnington hadn’t proven anything before last season either...

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2 minutes ago, mfitz804 said:

 

 

Not clicking that. I don’t have kids, so I don’t have to suffer such things. :P

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Just now, Nicomo said:

Well sure, but Binnington hadn’t proven anything before last season either...

And absolutely nobody thought he improved their chances before he played a game in the NHL. Or after, for that matter. 

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4 minutes ago, mfitz804 said:

And absolutely nobody thought he improved their chances before he played a game in the NHL. Or after, for that matter. 

That’s because he wasn’t a highly touted #1OA. I think it’s reasonable to expect Hughes makes a big impact pretty quickly. Nico did (Hall doesn’t win the MVP without him), and Hughes is probably a lot better than him. 

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6 minutes ago, Nicomo said:

That’s because he wasn’t a highly touted #1OA. I think it’s reasonable to expect Hughes makes a big impact pretty quickly. Nico did (Hall doesn’t win the MVP without him), and Hughes is probably a lot better than him. 

I’m not sure if I agree about Hall not winning without Nico. The reason he won is because he took the team on his back into the playoffs with zero help. If he had help, he wouldn’t have won. 

If anything, I think Nico’s stats reflect Hall’s success rather than vise versa. 

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Just now, mfitz804 said:

I’m not sure if I agree about Hall not winning without Nico. The reason he won is because he took the team on his back into the playoffs with zero help. If he had help, he wouldn’t have won. 

If anything, I think Nico’s stats reflect Hall’s success rather than vise versa. 

So you think he would have won it with Zajac or Zacha centering his line? I don’t. 

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1 minute ago, Nicomo said:

So you think he would have won it with Zajac or Zacha centering his line? I don’t. 

Dont try to get me to say something positive about Zacha...

But honestly, yes. He’d have elevated either guys’ stats that year. 

 

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