mfitz804 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 2 hours ago, MadDog2020 said: It’s a salary dump though (Callahan). I’m not giving them anything good for a salary dump. We’re doing them a favor. Quenneville = nothing good. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenwo2 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 Excerpt from the athletic article regarding Hall : Ferris and Hall were somewhat annoyed their lack of urgency in engaging in contract talks with Shero and the Devils was being spun into something they claim it isn’t. A reluctance to sign as soon as possible is not necessarily a sign that the Devils are no longer an option, they say. It is simply a way to go about taking a very important decision and choosing to attack it under the best circumstances possible. “This is one of the most important decisions of his career, some players only get here once,” Ferris said. “There’s no reason to rush into it.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Nicomo Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 21 minutes ago, MadDog2020 said: That guy was way too nice. A true Devils fan would have went all the end of Casino on him. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagknife Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 20 hours ago, MadDog2020 said: It’s a salary dump though (Callahan). I’m not giving them anything good for a salary dump. We’re doing them a favor. Is Spears the “good” part of that deal or the pick? Serious question cause I couldn’t care any [FREAKING] less about Q anymore. I’d take cost-controlled Miller for sure and I wouldn’t mind one year of Callahan. If he blows we bench him. But we do need to make moves to get Hall comfortable and entice him to stay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 33 minutes ago, jagknife said: Is Spears the “good” part of that deal or the pick? Serious question cause I couldn’t care any [FREAKING] less about Q anymore. I’d take cost-controlled Miller for sure and I wouldn’t mind one year of Callahan. If he blows we bench him. But we do need to make moves to get Hall comfortable and entice him to stay. Truthfully, the 4th rounder is probably worth more than either of those guys lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagknife Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 17 minutes ago, MadDog2020 said: Truthfully, the 4th rounder is probably worth more than either of those guys lol. I really wish we would have seen more of Spears last year. I know he was hurt, but I also know he was one of the tough cuts out of camp, at least from what we saw on that special. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagknife Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 Skinner about to get $9m annually to play for those losers in western NY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fsu1852 Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 1 hour ago, jagknife said: Skinner about to get $9m annually to play for those losers in western NY. I'm glad they signed him. I was nervous The Devils might reach out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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NJDfan1711 Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 That's a lot. Too much, but again, sort of expected. Guy has potential , so I wouldn't write this off as completely horrible just yet. And if the cap keeps going up over the years, it's less of an issue each passing season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 28 minutes ago, NJDfan1711 said: That's a lot. Too much, but again, sort of expected. Guy has potential , so I wouldn't write this off as completely horrible just yet. And if the cap keeps going up over the years, it's less of an issue each passing season. I’d call it a slight overpayment, typical of what guys get when they re-sign. Scary to think what Hall is “worth” if Skinner is worth $9m. $11m?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muevelos Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 Only overpaid by a mill or so, hopefully he stays healthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDfan1711 Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 9 minutes ago, mfitz804 said: I’d call it a slight overpayment, typical of what guys get when they re-sign. Scary to think what Hall is “worth” if Skinner is worth $9m. $11m?? Agreed. I think for Hall the injuries play a factor, but you're right, in consideration of fair market value, he probably gets 11, I think that's spot on. I could even see us reaching at 12, but that 8th year option probably keeps it a bit lower. Hall seems like a good guy, I think so the end of the day, he does 8 years 11.25M, with options/bonuses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anhkheg Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 I think Hall signs for 8 yrs @ 10 million. Jeff Skinner definitely got overpaid for what he achieved in one year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 Skinner...ouch. That one’s got serious disaster potential. Suddenly 2017-18-type campaigns aren’t going to be nearly good enough for Skinner. This being said, the Devils re-signing Hall has equal disaster potential (especially if Hall can’t stay on the ice enough), but we know how these signings roll....they don’t often work out as well as you hope for, and they rarely represent good value. But unless you’re somehow stocked to the hilt with ready-to-play prospects, occasionally you take the risk. I’d still do it for Hall. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevils1214 Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 I'm still thinking Hall's injury last year was a black swan event. The team was bad, he had a nagging knee injury, they sat him for as long as he needed to try and let it repair on its own, it didn't fix itself and in the end he needed surgery. I don't think there's a whole lot of reason to expect that he won't be good for 75+ games most seasons. The Skinner deal is a game. Could end up with a big yikes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vadvlfan Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 Sadly, Speers= NHL bust Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicomo Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 (edited) 46 minutes ago, vadvlfan said: Sadly, Speers= NHL bust He’s played in 3 NHL games and is still relatively young (22), might be a tad early to make that call. Although, looking at his AHL numbers it doesn’t make for a lot of hope there... Edited June 8, 2019 by Nicomo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mfitz804 Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 31 minutes ago, MadDog2020 said: Wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 yeah well i guess everyone is trade-able. They could make a huge trade and well you need to send something good in order to get something good so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicomo Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 Seems like he’s going to end up being their Pavel Zacha. Although probably not nearly as good defensively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 also scary to think what Panarin will get now... which, i don't care i'd pay it if i was Shero 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 48 minutes ago, mfitz804 said: Wow. Trouba for Patrick makes sense for both sides (probably not straight up, but those two would be the basis of a deal). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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