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5 minutes ago, MB3 said:

You’re dramatically underestimating Kadri’s value. 

I mean, not really. They win Kadri vs Kerfoot, though Kerfoot is the younger player and still good. And if there was a second round pick coming back in return and no Barrie salary retained I'd maybe be more warm to it. I get that Barrie isn't making much anyway and Colorado could afford it...but...why? Just to make sure the trade happens? Barrie will play top pair minutes for the Leafs. Okay, they gave up a good player, but still got Kerfoot as a substitute. 

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Damn... my only comeback to this is really arrogant... That will not help my case... 

Daniel, you've been watching pro sports long enough to know that GMs don't often make for great interviews...they don't tend to spell out what they're going to do, and a lot of times fall back on vagu

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1 minute ago, Neb00rs said:

I mean, not really. They win Kadri vs Kerfoot, though Kerfoot is the younger player and still good. And if there was a second round pick coming back in return and no Barrie salary retained I'd maybe be more warm to it. I get that Barrie isn't making much anyway and Colorado could afford it...but...why? Just to make sure the trade happens? Barrie will play top pair minutes for the Leafs. Okay, they gave up a good player, but still got Kerfoot as a substitute. 

I mean, yeah really. Kadri is on a sweetheart deal; 3 years left at 4m per season for a no-doubt 2nd line center. That’s a fvckin deal. 

I think the trade leans in the Leafs favor but you’re underselling Kadri. 

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Lou will never change. 

@ChrisKuc
New #Blackhawks goaltender Robin Lehner: "We were still pretty much all in with Long Island and they walked away—didn’t want to do anything."
New #Blackhawks goaltender Robin Lehner said the Islanders gave him an "ultimatum" and when he came back after thinking about it the Isles had moved on.

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5 minutes ago, LittleBallofHate said:

Lou will never change. 

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New #Blackhawks goaltender Robin Lehner: "We were still pretty much all in with Long Island and they walked away—didn’t want to do anything."
New #Blackhawks goaltender Robin Lehner said the Islanders gave him an "ultimatum" and when he came back after thinking about it the Isles had moved on.

The fact that it worked on Lee is even worse. That demand for loyalty thing just doesn't work in today's sports 

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14 minutes ago, MB3 said:

I mean, yeah really. Kadri is on a sweetheart deal; 3 years left at 4m per season for a no-doubt 2nd line center. That’s a fvckin deal. 

I think the trade leans in the Leafs favor but you’re underselling Kadri. 

How do you perceive my valuation of Kadri and what should it be?

I mean, it sounds like you just agree with me.

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10 minutes ago, LittleBallofHate said:

Lou will never change. 

@ChrisKuc
New #Blackhawks goaltender Robin Lehner: "We were still pretty much all in with Long Island and they walked away—didn’t want to do anything."
New #Blackhawks goaltender Robin Lehner said the Islanders gave him an "ultimatum" and when he came back after thinking about it the Isles had moved on.

Sounds more like Lou wasn’t a huge believer in Lehner beyond last season.  Guess he likes Varlamov that much more.

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23 minutes ago, Devil Dan 56 said:

The fact that it worked on Lee is even worse. That demand for loyalty thing just doesn't work in today's sports 

I think Lee may have gone to Montreal, but the Aho offer sheet gummed up the works.... he had options, but when he saw he wasn’t gonna get $9 million a year from the Habs, he probably just decided to stick with what he knew. He seems to like it there. 

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22 minutes ago, MadDog2020 said:

Love Boyle. Hope he succeeds wherever he goes.

Bring him back. Trade Zacha and whatever for Nylander. 

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7 minutes ago, mfitz804 said:

Bring him back. Trade Zacha and whatever for Nylander. 

Mfitz: “Zacha sucks”

also mfitz: “trade him for a .7 ppg 23 year old player.” 

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1 minute ago, MB3 said:

Mfitz: “Zacha sucks”

also mfitz: “trade him for a .7 ppg 23 year old player.” 

You forgot the “and whatever”. The trade was not one for one. 

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5 minutes ago, MB3 said:

Mfitz: “Zacha sucks”

also mfitz: “trade him for a .7 ppg 23 year old player.” 

To be fair, he did also say "and whatever" and that's what Toronto would really want. 

I'll throw in some pork roll. They can't say no.

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Just now, NJDevils1214 said:

To be fair, he did also say "and whatever" and that's what Toronto would really want. 

I'll throw in some pork roll. They can't say no.

Unless they insist on Taylor Ham because they are North of North Jersey. 

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1 hour ago, MadDog2020 said:

I think Lee may have gone to Montreal, but the Aho offer sheet gummed up the works.... he had options, but when he saw he wasn’t gonna get $9 million a year from the Habs, he probably just decided to stick with what he knew. He seems to like it there. 

 

 

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New option for the Devils: maybe the best professional player in the world outside of the NHL this past season. LW. 26 years old. 82 points in 62games for SKA last year.

 

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This whole Gusev hype reminds me of teams trying to find the elusive next Milan Lucic by drafting big guys who didn’t produce in their draft year.  Everyone thinks they’re getting Panarin with these undrafted (or virtually undrafted) Russian guys, but usually it’s someone like Nikita Zaitsev who you regret giving a big contract to after he shows you a little bit.  

I’m not necessarily opposed to getting him, but Ray better be very confident he’s the real deal and otherwise have exhausted every other opportunity to acquire a better player since there are only so many moves he can make.

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6 minutes ago, Daniel said:

This whole Gusev hype reminds me of teams trying to find the elusive next Milan Lucic by drafting big guys who didn’t produce in their draft year.  Everyone thinks they’re getting Panarin with these undrafted (or virtually undrafted) Russian guys, but usually it’s someone like Nikita Zaitsev who you regret giving a big contract to after he shows you a little bit.  

I’m not necessarily opposed to getting him, but Ray better be very confident he’s the real deal and otherwise have exhausted every other opportunity to acquire a better player since there are only so many moves he can make.

Reminds me more of a Mogilny situation than a Lucic situation. He just needs to be convinced to come with dollars vs running from the RU gvt.

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5 minutes ago, Daniel said:

This whole Gusev hype reminds me of teams trying to find the elusive next Milan Lucic by drafting big guys who didn’t produce in their draft year.  Everyone thinks they’re getting Panarin with these undrafted (or virtually undrafted) Russian guys, but usually it’s someone like Nikita Zaitsev who you regret giving a big contract to after he shows you a little bit.  

I’m not necessarily opposed to getting him, but Ray better be very confident he’s the real deal and otherwise have exhausted every other opportunity to acquire a better player since there are only so many moves he can make.

The real question is the price to trade for him. Rumor has it both sides, VGK and Gusev have been talking two-year deal (bridge to UFA) and the difference is on $$$. The Devils don't have much to risk in signing any two-year deal and there's plenty of upside here. No doubt we can offer him every dollar any other team can, so again, to me the question is...how many picks is it going to cost us and which, if any, roster players?

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2 minutes ago, Neb00rs said:

The real question is the price to trade for him. Rumor has it both sides, VGK and Gusev have been talking two-year deal and the difference is on $$$. The Devils don't have much to risk in signing any two-year deal and there's plenty of upside here. No doubt we can offer him every dollar any other team can, so again, to me the question is...how many picks is it going to cost us and which, if any, roster players?

It’s gotta he picks and or guys in the minors. Vegas is still on the wrong side of the cap even with Clarkson going to LTIR

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2 hours ago, LittleBallofHate said:

Lou will never change. 

@ChrisKuc
New #Blackhawks goaltender Robin Lehner: "We were still pretty much all in with Long Island and they walked away—didn’t want to do anything."
New #Blackhawks goaltender Robin Lehner said the Islanders gave him an "ultimatum" and when he came back after thinking about it the Isles had moved on.

Lou again with his hardline ultimatum BS. Lehner turned his life around, is 27 and was a .930 goalie last year. Yes the Isles played way better defensively but .930 is .930. He was magnificent

Sometimes if feels like Lou would rather stick to his guns and lose than swallow his pride a bit and win

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1 minute ago, jagknife said:

It’s gotta he picks and or guys in the minors. Vegas is still on the wrong side of the cap even with Clarkson going to LTIR

Well, it's clear VGK was negotiating with him, McPhee seemed to want to keep him and there's other salary VGK can move, which is why I figured Gusev wasn't an option. So I'm not sure VGK is set with their roster for the upcoming year. The rumor is the difference between Gusev and VGK is on price and so in return for Gusev, VGK may want a roster player at the value they were looking for with Gusev. But it could be just picks of course.

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21 minutes ago, Neb00rs said:

New option for the Devils: maybe the best professional player in the world outside of the NHL this past season. LW. 26 years old. 82 points in 62games for SKA last year.

 

Sign me up. 

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