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1 minute ago, mfitz804 said:

Many said they would never buy one. I’m sure some still feel that way. I don’t, neither do you. 

I said I would never buy one, still haven't and never will. 

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6 hours ago, Nicomo said:

Ray’s a fvcking gangster. 

It's funny, I almost get a "Wait a sec...we've been patient with you, given you plenty of chances even when you didn't necessarily earn them, and now you're gonna pull THIS sh!t with me?!  Oh HELL NO!" vibe from Ray on this one.  Obviously Ray's still plenty open to the idea of bringing him back, but he sounds like he's pretty close to getting fed up. 

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5 minutes ago, Satans Hockey said:

I said I would never buy one, still haven't and never will. 

So I was right, then. 

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11 minutes ago, mfitz804 said:

Many said they would never buy one. I’m sure some still feel that way. I don’t, neither do you. 

But those who were going to protest outside the arena, or burn down the owners’ houses, or whatever, I don’t believe they followed through with their fake outrage. 

Honestly I don’t think they were improved by the changes, but I’m still ok with them. I’ve become used to them and now hardly notice the difference. 

We've been over it, but the real killer with the new ones is that the only way to get a proper "authentic" is to buy a GW.  At least with those, you get a proper fit (and that makes a HUGE difference).  The off-the-rack versions are too smock-like and shapeless for my tastes. 

When it comes to GW, I still prefer Edges whenever I can get them, but I have nabbed some Adidas ones as well.  I like the white ones much more than the reds...the fat white stripes on the sleeves of the red push my "ugh" button.  But I still wear the ones that I have. 

The REAL "Bleech" for me right now is that I just snagged Zacha's McMullen Night jersey in July...as a leap of faith, that this was going to be a year where things really start to come together for him, no matter what the role.  If he does wind up going to the K, not sure that I could ever EVER wear that one out...or more to the point, would WANT to.

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Still like him so far... Until he really signs elsewhere i still have hope for a great season from him. It's aggressive and stupid way of dealing for a contract, i 100% agree... And Shero is the real boss and got all the cards in his hand ! 
Sign Pavel and shut up ! 

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7 hours ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said:

We've been over it, but the real killer with the new ones is that the only way to get a proper "authentic" is to buy a GW.  At least with those, you get a proper fit (and that makes a HUGE difference).  The off-the-rack versions are too smock-like and shapeless for my tastes.

True, but that’s not the team nor the re-design’s fault, it’s the manufacturer not making them available at retail. Only a team or two has ordered extra to sell to the public. 

8 hours ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said:

The REAL "Bleech" for me right now is that I just snagged Zacha's McMullen Night jersey in July...as a leap of faith, that this was going to be a year where things really start to come together for him, no matter what the role.  If he does wind up going to the K, not sure that I could ever EVER wear that one out...or more to the point, would WANT to.

We still love you despite your flaws lol. 

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36 minutes ago, Ralliart90 said:

Hall wants “Hip Hop Hooray” as the goal song lol

https://twitter.com/hallsy09/status/1171203356733452288?s=21

There's a poll on twitter asking if you like the 'you suck" chant included in goal song. I voted no, but the majority still wanted it. I want to say 55%-45%

Stay classy Devils fans

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44 minutes ago, vadvlfan said:

There's a poll on twitter asking if you like the 'you suck" chant included in goal song. I voted no, but the majority still wanted it. I want to say 55%-45%

Stay classy Devils fans

I don't care either way about the you suck chant but it's a hockey game not the opera.

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1 hour ago, mfitz804 said:

True, but that’s not the team nor the re-design’s fault, it’s the manufacturer not making them available at retail. Only a team or two has ordered extra to sell to the public. 

We still love you despite your flaws lol. 

Didn't say it was the fault of the team or the re-design, but that still doesn't help matters.  You could get Indo Edge jerseys that were extremely close to the real deal...maybe 90-95% accurate (and most fans wouldn't even know the differences between those and the "true" Canadian Edges).  Even if legit Adidas authentics were made available to us off the rack, I'm still not a fan of the new ones...like I've said, I don't hate them, just like the Edge look a lot more. 

re:  the bolded...heh heh, gotta admit, of all the things I imagined re:  Zacha, I never thought him leaving the Devils for the KHL was ever a possibility.  Obviously it isn't done yet, and it sounds like after Ray slaps him on the wrists and across the face a few times, there's still a chance that Zacha could be back.  I admit it, though I haven't been a major supporter of his, I'd hate to lose him mostly because I think he has the ability to be a solid 3C here for years to come, with much less pressure to be an offensive force.  I do think he can be a meaningful contributor, as long as people aren't looking for glamour numbers from him.

 

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Saw this on HFBoards:

https://www.idnes.cz/hokej/nhl/hokej-nhl-pavel-zacha-nova-smlouva-new-jersey-khl-omsk.A190910_093840_nhl_cig

According to the above linked article (in Czech) Zacha agreed to a contract last night (edit: with the Devils), 3 years 7M total.  To be announced today.  Apparently the paper is pretty credible.

So we'll see.

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28 minutes ago, Satans Hockey said:

I don't care either way about the you suck chant but it's a hockey game not the opera.

I think we should also chant you suck at the opera. 

16 minutes ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said:

 I do think he can be a meaningful contributor, as long as people aren't looking for glamour numbers from him.

I feel like we say that every season. 

 

2 minutes ago, Devilsfan118 said:

Saw this on HFBoards:

https://www.idnes.cz/hokej/nhl/hokej-nhl-pavel-zacha-nova-smlouva-new-jersey-khl-omsk.A190910_093840_nhl_cig

According to the above linked article (in Czech) Zacha agreed to a contract last night, 3 years 7M total.  To be announced today.  Apparently the paper is pretty credible.

So we'll see.

With us or with the K??

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1 minute ago, mfitz804 said:

I think we should also chant you suck at the opera. 

I feel like we say that every season. 

 

With us or with the K??

Us, not KHL.

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1 minute ago, mfitz804 said:

I think we should also chant you suck at the opera. 

I feel like we say that every season. 

 

With us or with the K??

With us, the article claims.

I definitely want Pavs on this team, I'd be real sad to see him go. Our bottom 6 is weaker without him and he's an excellent penalty killer.

 

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Since there’s jersey talk going on in this thread I have a question for you guys that are really into them, if big lips #9 ends up not re-signing, I need opinions on who I should replace him with if I strip my Edge 2.0? I’ve always really wanted a Stevens jersey, but would that just feel wrong on an Edge? I have a bit of OCD, and it would probably bother me a bit that it wasn’t accurate to any jerseys he actually ever wore. Or should I just get someone from the 08-17 era Devils like Zajac, maybe? 

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8 minutes ago, Nicomo said:

Since there’s jersey talk going on in this thread I have a question for you guys that are really into them, if big lips #9 ends up not re-signing, I need opinions on who I should replace him with if I strip my Edge 2.0? I’ve always really wanted a Stevens jersey, but would that just feel wrong on an Edge? I have a bit of OCD, and it would probably bother me a bit that it wasn’t accurate to any jerseys he actually ever wore. Or should I just get someone from the 08-17 era Devils like Zajac, maybe? 

As a jersey collector, I would say yes, Stevens would be wrong. 

When stripping a jersey, I tend to prefer replacing a single digit with a single digit, to cover up any evidence. That would leave you very few options. 

That said, especially on red jerseys, Exclusive Pro Sports (who customized the on ice jerseys during the Edge era) does a very good job of removing all of the glue. 

I don’t think you can go wrong with a Zajac at this point. 

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6 minutes ago, mfitz804 said:

As a jersey collector, I would say yes, Stevens would be wrong. 

When stripping a jersey, I tend to prefer replacing a single digit with a single digit, to cover up any evidence. That would leave you very few options. 

That said, especially on red jerseys, Exclusive Pro Sports (who customized the on ice jerseys during the Edge era) does a very good job of removing all of the glue. 

I don’t think you can go wrong with a Zajac at this point. 

Ugh it’s actually a white. And the only other player I was thinking from that era is Madden (I already have Brodeur and Elias). So 11 wouldn’t cover up 9 very well? I’ve had a bunch of jerseys done with EPS, but always blanks. Never stripped one before. 

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Maybe Colin White...

I do miss the bruisers in today’s game. 

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7 minutes ago, Nicomo said:

Maybe Colin White...

I do miss the bruisers in today’s game. 

The glue removal on the white is always trickier. Unless you strip it and you see no glue at all, which is very unlikely, I would stick with the single digit. Colin White is a good choice.

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4 hours ago, mfitz804 said:

I feel like we say that every season. 

The big difference is that I feel like in the past, a number of fans were hoping he'd become a Top 6 (or at least show signs of becoming that someday), and more of an offensive contributor (understandable when a player is taken #6 overall).  I really don't care about where he was drafted anymore...I've reached the point where I'm hoping that he simply can contribute and be a solid player, be an intangibles guy.  Be a top PK guy and a guy who can help to shut down other lines.  And pop in 15-20 goals and put up 40-45 points.  No, it's not glamorous, but if Nico and Jack can do what we think that they can, the Devils won't need Zacha to be a Top 6 guy, and that's really a win.  I'm all for putting players in positions where they have a legit chance to succeed...I don't know if that ever would've happened if Zacha was gifted second-line minutes out of necessity.

Of course, if Zacha shows enough in the next season or two that another team thinks that Zacha might have Top 6 potential, but he's become expendable here (kinda like Henrique did), and you can use him to fill another need, so be it.  Not like everyone who's currently in uniform will be still be here when this team is (hopefully) good enough to think about being a legit Cup contender. 

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39 minutes ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said:

Be a top PK guy and a guy who can help to shut down other lines.  And pop in 15-20 goals and put up 40-45 points.

That’s two years worth of stats for him. If he were scoring 15-20 goals and 40-45 points a season, I would agree, that’s a decent bottom 6 guy. But he hasn’t been anywhere close to that output, though if he played a full season last year, he might have gotten to 15 goals. 

I just don’t see any improvement in the guy after 3 seasons. You can keep hoping it happens, but how long before we just know it won’t?

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Just now, mfitz804 said:

That’s two years worth of stats for him. If he were scoring 15-20 goals and 40-45 points a season, I would agree, that’s a decent bottom 6 guy. But he hasn’t been anywhere close to that output, though if he played a full season last year, he might have gotten to 15 goals. 

I just don’t see any improvement in the guy after 3 seasons. You can keep hoping it happens, but how long before we just know it won’t?

If the reports of a 3-year deal are true, I give him this season and next (as long as he doesn't completely stagnate or regress)...by then, I need to know if he can be some approximation of Zajac 2.0.  Zacha probably shouldn't have been up here as early as he was, so I'll give him a pass on his first year...maybe even his second, to an extent.  Last year's start was infuriating for sure.   

He did finish with 20 points over his last 30 GP (8 G and 12 A), so assuming that this latest minor surge isn't yet another tease, it's not crazy to think he might be capable of 40-45 points if he can play 80+ games.  But like I've said in other posts, I'm done with the teases.  He can't be invisible to start the season and start becoming a healthy scratch in November, and then slowly but surely appear to be making progress in late January or so.  It may sound like I'm championing him to an extent, but truthfully he's on a VERY short leash with me...I've already defined what I hope he can be, and I need to see real signs that he can become that, and I need to see them immediately.  Not after 2/3rds or so of the season, where we're all just about at the end of our ropes yet again with him.  Been there done that. 

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2 hours ago, Satans Hockey said:

I don't care either way about the you suck chant but it's a hockey game not the opera.

True, but when the arena gets more fired up about the you suck or Rangers suck chant far more than even a Let's Go Devils chant, something isn't quite right here.

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