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1 hour ago, SterioDesign said:

But hey if you really think in 10 years Rangers fans won't be arguing and making arguments to suggest Kakko was the better player out of the 2, no matter how it went. Good for you pal, good for you.

It’s easier just to tell a Rag fan to fvck off than actually listen to whatever drivel they try to convince you of.... I highly recommend it.

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When you come down to it, he was pretty lucky to have been there at all.  I see whatever time he got there as a bonus...and even better, he got through it healthy.  

I’m glad that Cory and Severson might have gained some confidence going into next season.  Glad that Hughes likely learned a thing or two by playing with and against seasoned NHL pros, became more con

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1 hour ago, SterioDesign said:

Why don't you stop putting words in my mouth? lol I never said Kakko was close to Ovechkin.

I said Hughes and Kakko will forever be compared to each others because of the Rangers/Devils rivalry. Just like the Ovechkin vs Crosby thing. 

But hey if you really think in 10 years Rangers fans won't be arguing and making arguments to suggest Kakko was the better player out of the 2, no matter how it went. Good for you pal, good for you.

 

In 10 years, as dumb as Ranger fans are, even they won’t think it’ll even be close enough to argue it. That’s not just my opinion but the opinion of every scouting service.

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7 minutes ago, devlman said:

In 10 years, as dumb as Ranger fans are, even they won’t think it’ll even be close enough to argue it. That’s not just my opinion but the opinion of every scouting service.

Those dipsh!ts tried arguing for years that Richter was better than Marty lmfao. They’re the stupidest fan base in any sport on any planet in the universe. 

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17 minutes ago, MadDog2020 said:

Those dipsh!ts tried arguing for years that Richter was better than Marty lmfao. They’re the stupidest fan base in any sport on any planet in the universe. 

Marty gets no love outside of Devils fans in general. The idiots at HFB don’t even think he’s top 5 all time...

fvcking morons talk about him always having a HoF defense in front of him, but neglect to mention he won multiple Veznia’s AFTER Stevens and Niedermayer were gone. But hey, why let facts get in the way of a good narrative. 

*also Steelers fans give them a run for their money. Yinzers are the worst. :P

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3 minutes ago, Nicomo said:

Marty gets no love outside of Devils fans in general. The idiots at HFB don’t even think he’s top 5 all time...

fvcking morons talk about him always having a HoF defense in front of him, but neglect to mention he won multiple Veznia’s AFTER Stevens and Niedermayer were gone. But hey, why let facts get in the way of a good narrative. 

*also Steelers fans give them a run for their money. Yinzers are the worst. :P

I wouldn’t use HF as any kind of barometer with regards to intelligent hockey discussion. Anyone with a pulse and at least one functioning brain cell wouldn’t argue that the winningest goalie in the history of the sport isn’t in the all-time top 5 at his position. 

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4 hours ago, Nicomo said:

Really surprised the Russians came up short. Thought they were the best team in the tournament by far. Them and the Czechs for bronze tomorrow. 

Guess I’ll root for Canada over Finland because of Severson. And I don’t want Kakko to win gold. 

Same here but don't forget about our old pal Rico (Adam Henrique) as well.  ;)

And Blackwood of course.

 

And yeah....I can do without the addition of Kakko GROUPIES out there in internet land shoving a Gold Medal in our faces whenever the Rags face the Devils.  ugh.

GO CANADA.....this time. 

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9 minutes ago, MadDog2020 said:

I wouldn’t use HF as any kind of barometer with regards to intelligent hockey discussion. Anyone with a pulse and at least one functioning brain cell wouldn’t argue that the winningest goalie in the history of the sport isn’t in the all-time top 5 at his position. 

Eh.  There are some smart individuals there, to be fair.  

But there are several that make you want to pull your hair out as far the Hughes / Kakko argument even though they all agree that the Devils will select Hughes.    (Aethon being one)

That said, aside from Trolls from other teams boards, No One from that Devils board believes Marty isn't Top 5 all-time.    No One.

 

(of course if you're referring to the MAIN Board, then all bets are off.  That's a Cesspool of SUCK if I've ever seen one. )

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15 minutes ago, Nicomo said:

fvcking morons talk about him always having a HoF defense in front of him, but neglect to mention he won multiple Veznia’s AFTER Stevens and Niedermayer were gone. But hey, why let facts get in the way of a good narrative. 

Yeah but they played the trap defense his entire career. And they still do now, it’s so boring. 

;) 

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33 minutes ago, glenwo2 said:

Eh.  There are some smart individuals there, to be fair.  

But there are several that make you want to pull your hair out as far the Hughes / Kakko argument even though they all agree that the Devils will select Hughes.    (Aethon being one)

That said, aside from Trolls from other teams boards, No One from that Devils board believes Marty isn't Top 5 all-time.    No One.

 

(of course if you're referring to the MAIN Board, then all bets are off.  That's a Cesspool of SUCK if I've ever seen one. )

I was. The Devils board is fine for the most part, although I just lurk , I don’t post there.... the main board will cause your brain to melt. I’m convinced at least three quarters of the posters on there don’t know how to tie their shoes. 

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2 hours ago, devlman said:

In 10 years, as dumb as Ranger fans are, even they won’t think it’ll even be close enough to argue it. That’s not just my opinion but the opinion of every scouting service.

Well scouting service can only predict so much. We simply don't know yet how it's going to play out over the next decade. Not as if it's impossible that Kakko ends up being the best player. Or hell some random player from the draft.

In 2011 all the scouts had RNH first overall way ahead of the rest.

"Excellent vision and hockey IQ. Gretzky-esque playmaking abilities. The most complete player in the draft. Has the ability to make his linemates and teammates around him better. Can be in the NHL as soon as the 2011-12 NHL season. Only knock on him is his size (6'0") and weight (170). Needs to add atleast 20 pounds to reach his full potential. A future #1 Center in the NHL."

And Landeskog was projected somewhere between 2-4. Then you have guys like Kucherov and Gaudreau who were picked in the 2nd and 4th round and they are true superstars in the league now.

So let's not pretend like anything is set in stone, wtv gap there is between players when they are 18 years old can drastically change in the next few years. Some are blooming later than others and some are already close to their ceiling.

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Just now, SterioDesign said:

Well scouting service can only predict so much. We simply don't know yet how it's going to play out over the next decade. Not as if it's impossible that Kakko ends up being the best player. Or hell some random player from the draft.

In 2011 all the scouts had RNH first overall way ahead of the rest.

"Excellent vision and hockey IQ. Gretzky-esque playmaking abilities. The most complete player in the draft. Has the ability to make his linemates and teammates around him better. Can be in the NHL as soon as the 2011-12 NHL season. Only knock on him is his size (6'0") and weight (170). Needs to add atleast 20 pounds to reach his full potential. A future #1 Center in the NHL."

And Landeskog was projected somewhere between 2-4. Then you have guys like Kucherov and Gaudreau who were picked in the 2nd and 4th round and they are true superstars in the league now.

So let's not pretend like anything is set in stone, wtv gap there is between players when they are 18 years old can drastically change in the next few years. Some are blooming later than others and some are already close to their ceiling.

My god....it would be a massive level of disappointment if Hughes ends up being another RNH....hopefully he won't.

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13 minutes ago, SterioDesign said:

Well scouting service can only predict so much. We simply don't know yet how it's going to play out over the next decade. Not as if it's impossible that Kakko ends up being the best player. Or hell some random player from the draft.

In 2011 all the scouts had RNH first overall way ahead of the rest.

"Excellent vision and hockey IQ. Gretzky-esque playmaking abilities. The most complete player in the draft. Has the ability to make his linemates and teammates around him better. Can be in the NHL as soon as the 2011-12 NHL season. Only knock on him is his size (6'0") and weight (170). Needs to add atleast 20 pounds to reach his full potential. A future #1 Center in the NHL."

And Landeskog was projected somewhere between 2-4. Then you have guys like Kucherov and Gaudreau who were picked in the 2nd and 4th round and they are true superstars in the league now.

So let's not pretend like anything is set in stone, wtv gap there is between players when they are 18 years old can drastically change in the next few years. Some are blooming later than others and some are already close to their ceiling.

Well then you can theoretically say that about the Rangers sixth round pick over Hughes, too. To which my reply then is why are you worrying about what ranger fans say or think? Odds are very favorable that Hughes turns out elite. Who cares about the rest?

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9 hours ago, devlman said:

Well then you can theoretically say that about the Rangers sixth round pick over Hughes, too. To which my reply then is why are you worrying about what ranger fans say or think? Odds are very favorable that Hughes turns out elite. Who cares about the rest?

I never said i was worried i said it would happen, thats it lol

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Congrats to the Finns! This is pretty neat - congrats to Kaapo too (ETA: anyone's welcome to add some snark about this being the end of winning): 

@JokkeNevalainen   Unconfirmed but I believe Kaapo Kakko is the first person in the history of hockey to win U18 World Championship, U20 World Championship and men's World Championship before being eligible for the NHL Draft.

 

And now he gets to party:

@JulieRobenhymer   Kaapo Kakko was scheduled to leave tomorrow for the NHL Scouting Combine in Buffalo, but...he’s got a party to go to in Helsinki after Finland won #IIHFWorlds gold. He will head over later in the week.

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I feel bad for Severson and Blackwood.  

Yeah they got Silver at least but would rather they got Gold instead.

 

Now we're going to have to deal with both Rags and Finnish fans (maybe not here but in other boards and on Social Media) bragging to Devils fans about their "GOLD MEDALIST SUPERSTAR" Kaapo Kakko.    🙄

Why couldn't Canada come out on Top to spare us this crap?   :rant:

Bah.  Whatever.    

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6 minutes ago, glenwo2 said:

I feel bad for Severson and Blackwood.  

Yeah they got Silver at least but would rather they got Gold instead.

 

Now we're going to have to deal with both Rags and Finnish fans (maybe not here but in other boards and on Social Media) bragging to Devils fans about their "GOLD MEDALIST SUPERSTAR" Kaapo Kakko.    🙄

Why couldn't Canada come out on Top to spare us this crap?   :rant:

Bah.  Whatever.    

Simple answer, nobody should ever listen to Rangers fans, ever. 

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Kakko didn’t have a point in his last 7 games. Yes I know points aren’t everything but his fanboys were certainly getting down on Hughes when he wasn’t getting them. But whatever let them enjoy their players winning medals on the international stage. Hank won gold but still has zero Cups. I love my country and root them on in these tournaments but Cups are what matters most. Shero can help us get a lot closer to another one by solidifying a one-two punch down the middle when he takes Hughes. 

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1 minute ago, Nicomo said:

Kakko didn’t have a point in his last 7 games. Yes I know points aren’t everything but his fanboys were certainly getting down on Hughes when he wasn’t getting them. But whatever let them enjoy their players winning medals on the international stage. Hank won gold but still has zero Cups. I love my country and root them on in these tournaments but Cups are what matters most. Shero can help us get a lot closer to another one by solidifying a one-two punch down the middle when he takes Hughes. 

 

I believe there's a Meme for that :

 

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it`s beautiful and most deserved win for Finland. How awesome was looked on theirs plays and tactics desicions.

btw i hope we draft Jack. please, shero, don`t sit on gold medal hype train.  this medals exclusively for rangers superstars.

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On 5/25/2019 at 12:15 AM, SterioDesign said:

oh my man.

This will literally never end. Unless one of those 2 players sh!t the bed it's going to be debated for decades. And everyone will be biased depending on who they decided to pick from the get go. Nobody will change their minds about it lol Whoever was team Crosby or team Ovechkin year and years ago are still having that debate to this day and nothing will change their mind lol

That's not true. I was on the Nolan Patrick bandwagon and couldn't have given a sh!t about him from the moment we picked Nico. I couldn't care less about what he does or doesn't do, and I won't care what Kakko does either (although I was never on the Kakko side).

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5 hours ago, thecoffeecake said:

That's not true. I was on the Nolan Patrick bandwagon and couldn't have given a sh!t about him from the moment we picked Nico. I couldn't care less about what he does or doesn't do, and I won't care what Kakko does either (although I was never on the Kakko side).

Sounds like you took it as if i meant like "within our fanbase" but it's not what i was saying.

I mean in general, i feel when there's a "choice" like this to make. A lot of people will make up their mind from the get-go and stick with it no matter what if it's somehow close... I mean... who debated Roy vs Brodeur in the last 10 years and actually changed their mind after some stat or something was brought up? haha more often than not you'll see and accept what you want to and you make excuses for what doesnt fit what you want to believe.

A very big chunk of every fanbases or sports fan are all living in a sort of echo chamber feeding on confirmation bias so it's understandable

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4 hours ago, Chimaira_Devil_#9 said:

Well GB has been drawn in a group where one of the teams can't get relegated for 2020. So we look doomed. But you never know. 

Good luck ; ) 

On the bright side.. you avoid Russia/Finland/USA/Swiss
on the not so bright side.. you have Canada/FInland/Czech/Germany/Slovakia and one spot taken for suviving the relegation...

Oh wait...

Yes you are doomed ! 
But just because I really like you... I will root for GB ! ; ) 

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On ‎5‎/‎25‎/‎2019 at 12:29 AM, mfitz804 said:

Yeah, whether Kaako is better or not, there’s no way anyone won’t be focused on what he’s doing. 

Unless he sort of somehow fizzles.  Most of us aren't really in tune with what Patrick's been doing just south of us.

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