Devils01 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 The New Jersey Devils have avoided arbitration with restricted free-agent defenseman Will Butcher, agreeing on a three-year deal carrying an average annual value of $3.73 million, according to Sportsnet's Elliotte Friedman. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil Dan 56 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Excellent!! Avoiding arbitration is always best 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilMinder Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Feels like a bit high to me but he did finish in the top 5 points wise on the team. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devils01 Posted July 31, 2019 Author Share Posted July 31, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, DevilMinder said: Feels like a bit high to me but he did finish in the top 5 points wise on the team. I was thinking the same thing. He should of been signed at about 2.5-2.75 mil. whats our cap space salary at now? Around 10 mil? Edited July 31, 2019 by Devils01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guadana Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 3 years for smith’s development and trade butcher in deadline. Or target mark on Seattle’s draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil Dan 56 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 With Butcher signed, Ray can finally turn his attention to the most important contract of the offseason.... Pavel Zacha. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDfan1711 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 15 minutes ago, Devils01 said: I was thinking the same thing. He should of been signed at about 2.5-2.75 mil. whats our cap space salary at now? Around 10 mil? I was thinking the opposite. It's only a 3 year deal, so I feel like under 4 is reasonable. And I actually can't believe he was top 5 in points on our team last year - that's a true stat? Wow. Either way, I'm pretty happy with this. I think Butcher still has quite a bit of potential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 I thought the term was going to wind up being 4+ seasons, but this deal feels right...no complaints. Funny how quickly “all that cap space” starts getting eaten up though. At least some money will be coming off in the next few seasons (like Greene). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilsfan118 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 No complaints, would've liked a little more term I think. This walks him right to UFA if I'm not mistaken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nessus Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 I'm a fan. Butcher will continue to improve. I think he's one of the more underrated players on the team. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devs1965 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Its a Fair contract, I believe it will also gives Butcher time to show what he can do with a better supporting cast. Now on to the Hall watch! oh and Zacha! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonDreads Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 I think this is pretty fair, I wouldn't have even blinked if we gave him $4M+ over a long term deal so somewhere in the $3M range sounds good to me. Thought Butcher was quite good last year even if the production wasn't there as much as it was in his rookie year, ain't nothing wrong with this deal for me other than it being 3 years. Would have preferred a 2 year bridge to maintain his RFA status or a long-term deal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steadevils Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Just now, Colorado Rockies 1976 said: I thought the term was going to wind up being 4+ seasons, but this deal feels right...no complaints. Funny how quickly “all that cap space” starts getting eaten up though. At least some money will be coming off in the next few seasons (like Greene). Yeah I would have liked 4+ too. It is kind of crazy we only have 1 player signed through 2022-23 (Severson)..I know that will change fast (hopefully Hall), but just shows how core-less the team was. No one was earning long term contracts. Greene (5), Zajac (5.75), Schneider (6) in consecutive years coming off the books or at least greatly reduced if re-signed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guadana Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Just now, Steadevils said: Yeah I would have liked 4+ too. It is kind of crazy we only have 1 player signed through 2022-23 (Severson)..I know that will change fast (hopefully Hall), but just shows how core-less the team was. No one was earning long term contracts. Greene (5), Zajac (5.75), Schneider (6) in consecutive years coming off the books or at least greatly reduced if re-signed. You will say thanks to ray that he didn’t sign butcher for more because after this three years Hughes and smith will be without a contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devlman Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Shero does it again. Great term and AAV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aitchmack Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 25 minutes ago, Devil Dan 56 said: With Butcher signed, Ray can finally turn his attention to the most important contract of the offseason.... Pavel Zacha. How many pages will the thread about Zachas contract get to I wonder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 I think this deal is perfect for both sides. 3 years gives us flexibility down the road, the AAV is under $4m which is where I would think it should be. I approve of this deal. 1 minute ago, Aitchmack said: How many pages will the thread about Zachas contract get to I wonder? Well I’m still here so I guess the answer is probably “twice as long as it needs to be because of memes”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil Dan 56 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 1 minute ago, Aitchmack said: How many pages will the thread about Zachas contract get to I wonder? Whatever it is, it'll have plenty of @mfitz804 memes. And I assume it'll also be revisited a few times during the season depending how Zacha is playing 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 14 minutes ago, MB3 said: I mean the Devils have added close to $20 million over 3 players that were not on last years' roster. That's exactly what we should be doing with "all that cap space". After the Butcher signing we're at roughly 8.7m in cap space. We've gotta sign Zacha (guess 2m at a high-ish end), and if Taylor Hall's extension comes in at 10m that's only really an additional 4m on the cap. When it's time to sign Nico, Jesper, and Blackwood next summer we'll have 15m coming off the books from Vatanen, Greene, and Simmonds alone. TL;DR: we fine dog I don’t have any issues with the space being used. More just a general comment on how quickly it starts disappearing. But yeah, still in fine shape long term at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aitchmack Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Just now, mfitz804 said: I think this deal is perfect for both sides. 3 years gives us flexibility down the road, the AAV is under $4m which is where I would think it should be. I approve of this deal. Well I’m still here so I guess the answer is probably “twice as long as it needs to be because of memes”. I'd expect nothing less 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Something like “hey, 3 years at $3m per is a great deal”. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 12 minutes ago, Steadevils said: Yeah I would have liked 4+ too. It is kind of crazy we only have 1 player signed through 2022-23 (Severson)..I know that will change fast (hopefully Hall), but just shows how core-less the team was. No one was earning long term contracts. Greene (5), Zajac (5.75), Schneider (6) in consecutive years coming off the books or at least greatly reduced if re-signed. I wasn’t really saying that I was hoping for 4+...more that I thought that’s what was coming. I’m good with 3. What’s nice is that Shero didn’t sign any JVR-types to bad deals “just to do something”. So yeah, no rotten long-term deals on the books right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neb00rs Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Price is a little high but Butcher did produce more than was expected of him over his first two years. Can't complain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 4 minutes ago, Neb00rs said: Price is a little high but Butcher did produce more than was expected of him over his first two years. Can't complain. He has the potential to be right there with Severson in terms of being our highest scoring defenseman. His stats dropped off a little last year compared to the previous season, which I attribute to the Taylor Hall Effect. But if playing with elite guys like Hall helped him bump up his numbers in his rookie season, then our recent roster improvements bode well for him. i think this deal winds up being just about a perfect deal for both sides. That said, if the price is a little too high, what is your opinion on the “correct” price? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neb00rs Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 5 minutes ago, mfitz804 said: He has the potential to be right there with Severson in terms of being our highest scoring defenseman. His stats dropped off a little last year compared to the previous season, which I attribute to the Taylor Hall Effect. But if playing with elite guys like Hall helped him bump up his numbers in his rookie season, then our recent roster improvements bode well for him. i think this deal winds up being just about a perfect deal for both sides. That said, if the price is a little too high, what is your opinion on the “correct” price? I was hoping to get him at 3M. He had a big rookie season and produced moderately on a terrible team last year, I suppose that gave him some leverage. I don't think he has Severson's potential all around, but hopefully, Severson ends up being vastly underpaid. Overall, we win the Kerfoot semi-swap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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