jagknife Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Devilsfan118 said: Kakko looks really, really good over the last few games. He's going to be a special player. Should be a fun rivalry for our teams, considering Nico and Patrick hasn't been much of a competition. Brutal. Feel bad the kid, really. Not so much that the Flyers picked a total bust at 2OA, though. people are already looking past Nolan and are locking in on Pettersson Heiskanen and Makar for comparisons to Nico, especially after Nico's extension and the low hanging fruit of it "not being worth it compared to those guys" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 28 minutes ago, jagknife said: people are already looking past Nolan and are locking in on Pettersson Heiskanen and Makar for comparisons to Nico, especially after Nico's extension and the low hanging fruit of it "not being worth it compared to those guys" And it bears saying, though obvious, that’s a stupid assessment. You don’t pay a 21 year old based on what they have down, you pay them on what they may do. Now veterans on the other hand... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aylbert Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, mfitz804 said: And it bears saying, though obvious, that’s a stupid assessment. You don’t pay a 21 year old based on what they have down, you pay them on what they may do. Now veterans on the other hand... Smart GMs have gravitated to locking up talent by paying for development projections. GMs living in the past are still paying 30yos for past performance hoping they can hang on So the contract is ‘manageable’ later. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 6 hours ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said: 5 G in his last 7 GP. He has 6 G in 16 GP on his season, on 20.0% shooting. He's starting to get his shots...he only had 11 SOG though his first 8 GP, and now has 19 SOG in his last 8 GP. Puny sample stuff of course, but it looks like he's starting to settle in. I can't tell if he sucks or not. What's his Expected Goals?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aitchmack Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Looks like Kovy is going to be released by LA. I don't need stats (advanced or otherwise) to know he's not been very good since his return to the NHL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 14 minutes ago, mfitz804 said: I can't tell if he sucks or not. What's his Expected Goals?? You're asking the wrong guy, I've never once mentioned Expected Goals, heh heh. He'd have to find a DeLorean, plutonium and a flux capacitor and head back to the mid-80s if he ever expects to continue to shoot 20% over a full season though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Aitchmack said: Looks like Kovy is going to be released by LA. I don't need stats (advanced or otherwise) to know he's not been very good since his return to the NHL. I'm sure Tri and some others would know...are the Kings stuck with his remaining cap hits? I believe that they are. I was following him more because I wanted to see how he would do after having been out of the NHL for so long (and likely being past his prime years), but man it would have been so much sweeter if he had sucked as a Ranger. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titans04 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 32 minutes ago, mfitz804 said: What's his Expected Goals?? Depends on whether or not he puts his left skate on first or vis versa combined with new or skid-marked underwear. Too many variables to be able to answer your question. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 20 minutes ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said: I'm sure Tri and some others would know...are the Kings stuck with his remaining cap hits? I believe that they are. I was following him more because I wanted to see how he would do after having been out of the NHL for so long (and likely being past his prime years), but man it would have been so much sweeter if he had sucked as a Ranger. My understanding is that if they release him, yes, they still have his cap hit. I'd like to be a bigger person and say that I wished him the best and I am not happy he failed, but I think we all know that ain't true. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevils1214 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 12 minutes ago, mfitz804 said: My understanding is that if they release him, yes, they still have his cap hit. I'd like to be a bigger person and say that I wished him the best and I am not happy he failed, but I think we all know that ain't true. He is over 35 or whatever so they can't buy him out or bury him in the minors for cap relief. The CBA is built so that teams can't sign those sh!t contracts with older guys then try to dump them without consequence when they get even older and stop producing(unless they go on LTIR, of course). He's laughing all the way to the bank anyway, so I am sure he doesn't care what anyone else thinks. If it wasn't for him then us fans never see the finals in 2012. He did the team a favor in the long run by leaving when Parise dipped(which hurt worse). The worst part about the whole incident was losing the draft pick and then getting it back just in time to draft Matteau. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aitchmack Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 50 minutes ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said: I'm sure Tri and some others would know...are the Kings stuck with his remaining cap hits? I believe that they are. I was following him more because I wanted to see how he would do after having been out of the NHL for so long (and likely being past his prime years), but man it would have been so much sweeter if he had sucked as a Ranger. No matter how much he'd have sucked as a Ranger he would still have scored against the Devils! Not sure about his cap. Can he retire again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 20 minutes ago, NJDevils1214 said: He's laughing all the way to the bank anyway, so I am sure he doesn't care what anyone else thinks. He probably still cares, I am sure he'd rather have won a Cup than made an extra $10 million, but given that he didn't win a Cup, he'll take the money lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevils1214 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 1 minute ago, mfitz804 said: He probably still cares, I am sure he'd rather have won a Cup than made an extra $10 million, but given that he didn't win a Cup, he'll take the money lol. Yea but when you've prob net hundreds of millions in a career between NA and Russia I am sure 10m for a cup win wouldn't really require a lot of thought. This year and next alone that he is under contract he is supposed to make like 11 and change alone and he might not even play another game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevils1214 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Cheeeezussss: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devs3cups Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 26 minutes ago, NJDevils1214 said: Cheeeezussss: Yeah, him and Byram are gonna dominate. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevils1214 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 (edited) This is neat: Edited November 14, 2019 by NJDevils1214 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevs4978 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 (edited) Lou getting the last laugh again with the Isles winning like nineteen straight games, as Shero fiddles while Newark is burning down. Edited November 14, 2019 by NJDevs4978 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Nicomo Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 The Pens will still be better than us even missing their 2 best players... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagknife Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 19 minutes ago, Nicomo said: The Pens will still be better than us even missing their 2 best players... Crosby could play in a wheelchair and we’d still let him get a goal and two helpers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDfan1711 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 This is amazing. The stars never cease to align. I'm sure others know who we play tomorrow. Yeah, the Penguins. No Crosby, no Letang, no Hornqvist, at home. We will lose because Mac, through no fault of his own, won't be able to come up with miracle save after miracle save, and if we're not getting above-average goaltending then it's yet another 4-1 uncompetitive loss. Fire Hynes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Average offense or defense might help as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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NJDfan1711 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 2 hours ago, mfitz804 said: Average offense or defense might help as well. That's too much to ask for with this team. 3 minutes ago, titans04 said: Wow, that's terrible. Hope he's OK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 33 minutes ago, titans04 said: Hope he’s okay and makes a full recovery. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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