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2 hours ago, titans04 said:

Unfortunate news about Cory :)

as for captain, no need to even name one next season. Eventually if things continue to progress Nico would appear to be the logical choice but I don't think he's there yet. Honestly I don't think there's truly  really all that much value in it on the ice or in the room,  it's more symbolic than anything.  I think the odds are the team is going to be marginally better but still pretty bad  so why saddle Nico with the added pressure?  Guys are either leaders or not with or without the letter "C" on their sweaters.  Off the ice it would definitely help sell jerseys. 

I wonder if a few really good players turned down captaincy? Not on our team, but others. You know Nico would do it. One more Swiss born Captain the NHL

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2 hours ago, titans04 said:

Honestly I don't think there's truly  really all that much value in it on the ice or in the room,  it's more symbolic than anything.  I think the odds are the team is going to be marginally better but still pretty bad  so why saddle Nico with the added pressure?  

Aren’t those two statements a bit inconsistent?

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6 hours ago, mfitz804 said:

Then I guess the Devils will have to plan on buying him out.

There's no other way around it, unless you can find a GM stupid enough to take him off our hands without having to add a major sweetener.

I don't think Cory can be part of this franchise come next season.

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3 hours ago, mfitz804 said:

Aren’t those two statements a bit inconsistent?

Not to me. For example on the road he would be the guy the home teams press guys would seek out pre and post game by default. Don't see any benefit in Nico taking that on for  what could very well be a weak team. Let him concentrate on elevating his game on the ice. 

 

 

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Would be great if Zajac will be our next Cap. He was going through the hell with team and he has 1 or 2 years left. It’s enough time for Nico to develop more. And then be the next one Captain. Year ago he has up and down year. And for Travis it would be great act of good will.

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15 hours ago, Nicomo said:

A top 10 pick is a top 10 pick. Worrying about what they do with it doesn’t diminish its value. 

Idk where you’re getting these expert projections on Bahl, but this is where all the big guys had him ranked going into his draft class:


2018 NHL Entry Draft: Ranked #68 by ISS Hockey

2018 NHL Entry Draft: Ranked #34 by Future Considerations

2018 NHL Entry Draft: Ranked #42 by Hockeyprospect.com

2018 NHL Entry Draft: Ranked #58 by McKeen's Hockey

2018 NHL Entry Draft: Ranked #47 by TSN/McKenzie

2018 NHL Entry Draft: Ranked #29 by NHL Central Scouting


So NHL Central Scouting even had a 1st round grade on him, and 3 others had him in the top 50. Seems like a higher ceiling than 3rd pairing to me. And “spare part” Nick Merkley is a former 1st round pick who looked very promising in the handful of games we saw him in, and is only 22. 

Indeed, he was pegged to go as a second rounder by most experts.  The same round where players have about a 15% chance of making the NHL.  The whole thought that he could be a top 4 D-man only exists in the Devils fan bubble (and almost all in the bubble have never even heard of him before the trade).  Most expert picks I have seen since the trade said he is maybe at best a 3rd pairing D-man.

Apologies if I keep my "mission accomplished" banner furled up on Merkley based on 10-15 games.

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6 hours ago, titans04 said:

Not to me. For example on the road he would be the guy the home teams press guys would seek out pre and post game by default. Don't see any benefit in Nico taking that on for  what could very well be a weak team. Let him concentrate on elevating his game on the ice. 

Not sure why the assumption is Nico may not be capable of multi-tasking.  Maybe he's perfectly capable of being the team captain (the real version of one, not the fairy tale version that makes inspirational locker room speeches whenever his team is down, to will them to victory) and continuing to develop/elevate his game.  

2 hours ago, Guadana said:

Would be great if Zajac will be our next Cap. He was going through the hell with team and he has 1 or 2 years left. It’s enough time for Nico to develop more. And then be the next one Captain. Year ago he has up and down year. And for Travis it would be great act of good will.

One year left after this one.  Guess I don't see the harm if the Devils decide that Nico needs one more year before becoming the captain, and have Zajac wear the "C" temporarily.  Travis could be a nice one-year stopgap transitional captain, assuming everyone's on the same page with that idea.  Depending on how some guys develop (or don't develop), I can't rule out Travis being signed to a one-year deal after his current contract expires.  That's why I mentioned that everyone would need to be in agreement that this is a single-season thing (Travis being the captain).

Nico does feel like the right guy though long-term, for whatever that's worth from a fan's viewpoint. 

  

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5 minutes ago, DevsMan84 said:

Indeed, he was pegged to go as a second rounder by most experts.  The same round where players have about a 15% chance of making the NHL.  The whole thought that he could be a top 4 D-man only exists in the Devils fan bubble (and almost all in the bubble have never even heard of him before the trade).  Most expert picks I have seen since the trade said he is maybe at best a 3rd pairing D-man.

Apologies if I keep my "mission accomplished" banner furled up on Merkley based on 10-15 games.

That must mean he sucks right? Never mind he the fact that played big minutes for team Canada at the WJC -20 and won gold. 

I think you’re confusing Merkley with someone else. He’s only played in 5 NHL games (4 for NJ), but he looked pretty good. Scored a goal against Columbus. 

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Just now, Nicomo said:

That must mean he sucks right? Never mind he the fact that played big minutes for team Canada at the WJC -20 and won gold. 

I think you’re confusing Merkley with someone else. He’s only played in 5 NHL games (4 for NJ), but he looked pretty good. Scored a goal against Columbus. 

Ah winning gold WJC-20 means he is guaranteed to be an NHL player.  Good grief lol.

So he scored a goal.....played in 4 games for a dumpster fire of a team......and you are saying he is promising?  lol K.

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6 minutes ago, DevsMan84 said:

Ah winning gold WJC-20 means he is guaranteed to be an NHL player.  Good grief lol.

So he scored a goal.....played in 4 games for a dumpster fire of a team......and you are saying he is promising?  lol K.

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5 hours ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said:

Not sure why the assumption is Nico may not be capable of multi-tasking.  Maybe he's perfectly capable of being the team captain (the real version of one, not the fairy tale version that makes inspirational locker room speeches whenever his team is down, to will them to victory) and continuing to develop/elevate his game.  

One year left after this one.  Guess I don't see the harm if the Devils decide that Nico needs one more year before becoming the captain, and have Zajac wear the "C" temporarily.  Travis could be a nice one-year stopgap transitional captain, assuming everyone's on the same page with that idea.  Depending on how some guys develop (or don't develop), I can't rule out Travis being signed to a one-year deal after his current contract expires.  That's why I mentioned that everyone would need to be in agreement that this is a single-season thing (Travis being the captain).

Nico does feel like the right guy though long-term, for whatever that's worth from a fan's viewpoint. 

  

He very well maybe capable CR of multitasking as you call it,  I just don't see much value if any in naming him this year. I'd rather him solely focus on elevating his game which imo still has a way to go especially developing consistency over a full season.  I don't think there's needs to even have a captain, go with 3-4 "A"'s (Nico, Zajac, Palms).  As of now I think the only thing he's truly done is been a bright spot on a bad team who's averaged less than a goal every 4 games and .65 pts per game overall. Hardly a need to rush him along into a captaincy imo at this point in time.

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1 hour ago, titans04 said:

He very well maybe capable CR of multitasking as you call it,  I just don't see much value if any in naming him this year. I'd rather him solely focus on elevating his game which imo still has a way to go especially developing consistency over a full season.  I don't think there's needs to even have a captain, go with 3-4 "A"'s (Nico, Zajac, Palms).  As of now I think the only thing he's truly done is been a bright spot on a bad team who's averaged less than a goal every 4 games and .65 pts per game overall. Hardly a need to rush him along into a captaincy imo at this point in time.

I def do NOT disagree with idea of one season of a few "A"s.  Wouldn't be the end of the world by any stretch.  

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48 minutes ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said:

I def do NOT disagree with idea of one season of a few "A"s.  Wouldn't be the end of the world by any stretch.  

I guess that is better than a team full of A-holes.

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