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6 hours ago, MadDog2020 said:

So we’re stuck with this loser it appears....

I think we're stuck with this loser, I think Harris and Blitzer are totally fine with a losing team (look at the 76ers), and I think Shero and Hynes have a very tight friendship and there's no way Shero will fire him.

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48 minutes ago, slasher72 said:

I think we're stuck with this loser, I think Harris and Blitzer are totally fine with a losing team (look at the 76ers), and I think Shero and Hynes have a very tight friendship and there's no way Shero will fire him.

If that happens the building will be empty. Fans will not show up. And that will hurt.

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2 hours ago, AEWHistory said:

Everyone calm down please.  This is just party line stuff for the reporters.  After all, what else is he going to say?  He can’t very well say he isn’t going to fire Haynes unless he actually does it.  So that leaves Shero with saying he has no plans to fire anyone or, “I am seriously thinking about firing our coaching staff, but if I don’t publicly acknowledging that they are close to being canned will probably completely undermine them so I might as well just fire them now.....”.  The only other options that are open are versions of this last one and all of them put the GM in a corner by setting public terms that he will have to live with.  So if he says that Haynes has to win the next two games but, instead, the team wins one and ties the other, but they look awesome both games, what do you do then?  Or what if he wins both and then loses another six?  

So I think Shero is playing his cards close to his vest, like a good GM should..... at least i hope so.  Because if he really isn’t considering replacing Haynes behind the scenes then Sheri really is part of the problem sad to say.

Yeah to me the proof is in the pudding...if they have two more desultory performances this week and Hynes isn't fired at that point, then the worst fears get realized.

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3 hours ago, slasher72 said:

I think we're stuck with this loser, I think Harris and Blitzer are totally fine with a losing team (look at the 76ers), and I think Shero and Hynes have a very tight friendship and there's no way Shero will fire him.

You may be right, but if that’s the case then they’re fools.  There are certain franchises that you can let wallow in mediocrity and the fans still fill the stadium.  The Cubs and Red Sox for a century, the Jets since before I was born, the Lions since Creation,  the Knicks, etc.  The 76ers seem to be one of those franchises, but the Devils are not.  Even during the Devils best years we never had massively successful attendance records.  It is tough to gauge exactly since the Devils best years were in another arena whereas now they have a much nicer facility that is more accessible, but I’d argue strongly that this team is costing itself serious money by underperforming.  So you may be right, but if you are then our ownership is either idiotic or has an agenda (like trying to justify moving the team or something).  I’ll say this: anyone trying to move the Devils will find their tires flattened and sugar in their gas tank.  

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I still wish Hynes was fired after Monday's game, like that night, or yesterday morning, but I've come to the conclusion that he's not getting canned yet.  I firmly believe he's going to get a minimum of 10 games this season.  We all know they're in an early hole and that each game they lose the hole gets deeper, but all this talk about them being out of the playoff race (seriously, what?! lol) and the winning percentages they'd need to get in is insane.  It might be the lightning-in-a-bottle scenario and 1 in a million chances, but the St. Louis Blues were in last place in the league last year and they won the fvcking Stanley Cup.  Very few GMs are going to can their head coach less than 10 games into the season after having made a lot of roster moves in the off-season, especially when those GMs don't have any suitable replacements lined up, which from what we can gather, Shero does not.  

I mentioned this in another thread a few weeks ago and I'll see if I can find it to quote, but I believe Hynes has until mid/late November to right the ship before he gets the axe.

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10 hours ago, slasher72 said:

I think we're stuck with this loser, I think Harris and Blitzer are totally fine with a losing team (look at the 76ers), and I think Shero and Hynes have a very tight friendship and there's no way Shero will fire him.

This is on Mikepeluso8/Daniel/Carpathianforest levels of makes no sense-- Especially the bolded.

Just because Shero will give Hynes a longer leash to try and right the ship doesn't mean he just won't fire him, it just means he has more faith in him than the fans(which isn't surprising giving some of the hottakes). Shero isn't a moron. He'll do what needs to be done.

Why the hell would ownership inject so much cash into the team if they were "okay with losing"? No owner is okay with losing. Winning = more money, and they just got done investing a ton to try and make that happen. Idk how they are with the 76ers but they seem really hands on here. 

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13 hours ago, Nicomo said:

I might not be into jerseys as hardcore as you, mfitz, and CR76, but I appreciate the knowledge you guys bring on them. I only bought jerseys from NHL Shop before finding this board. Didn’t know about Meigray or EPS, etc. 

So in short, don’t let one or two trolls discourage you from talking about your collecting. I’m sure I’m not the only one who’s interested. 

Thanks for the kind words.  I actually do appreciate it.

Unfortunately over the years it has been more than just a couple of trolls, but I will leave it at that.  It is actually encouraging to see that there are some people who actually don't look at it as something to take shots at even though I will admit collecting other's people used clothing sounds a bit weird when it's described as such lol.

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For any Athletic subscribers, I stumbled upon the Devils individual page and saw some of the stats for the year so far compared to all other teams. I'm guessing it's updated regularly:

Goals/Game - 28 out of 31

GA/Game - dead last 31 our of 31

Shooting % - 25 out of 31

Save % - 30 out of 31

SOG/Game - 26 out of 31

Shots against/Game - 17 out of 31

 

Obviously that's not too pretty. Not giving up the most # of shots in the league is nice, but the rest are cause for concern. Shooting % should probably go up, but the Save % figure is especially ugly. I'm not sure whether to put all of this on the coach, but it does seem easier to replace one coach than a bunch of players.

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11 hours ago, slasher72 said:

I think we're stuck with this loser, I think Harris and Blitzer are totally fine with a losing team (look at the 76ers), and I think Shero and Hynes have a very tight friendship and there's no way Shero will fire him.

I think you might have stopped watching the 76er's about 2-3 seasons ago.  They have been pretty good lately.

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1 hour ago, NJDfan1711 said:

I still wish Hynes was fired after Monday's game, like that night, or yesterday morning, but I've come to the conclusion that he's not getting canned yet.  I firmly believe he's going to get a minimum of 10 games this season.  We all know they're in an early hole and that each game they lose the hole gets deeper, but all this talk about them being out of the playoff race (seriously, what?! lol) and the winning percentages they'd need to get in is insane.  It might be the lightning-in-a-bottle scenario and 1 in a million chances, but the St. Louis Blues were in last place in the league last year and they won the fvcking Stanley Cup.  Very few GMs are going to can their head coach less than 10 games into the season after having made a lot of roster moves in the off-season, especially when those GMs don't have any suitable replacements lined up, which from what we can gather, Shero does not.  

I mentioned this in another thread a few weeks ago and I'll see if I can find it to quote, but I believe Hynes has until mid/late November to right the ship before he gets the axe.

Okay so, the Blues on 2 January were last place, 34 points but only 11 out of the final spot in the west. That was the last time they saw the basement, mind you they were a single point behind three teams (Ott, Phi, LA), so while it was a cool story/narrative and a fun piece of trivia and history, the gap to close wasn't insurmountable.

Having said that, we're only 4 back, which obviously is not horrendous at all. Lucky for us, most of the conference is playing poorly, but with each game that these guys don't manage to pull a win out of their asses, that mountain to climb gets larger and larger, especially when they're getting awfully used to losing and our coaches quite clearly do not have any answers yet.

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37 minutes ago, jagknife said:

Okay so, the Blues on 2 January were last place, 34 points but only 11 out of the final spot in the west. That was the last time they saw the basement, mind you they were a single point behind three teams (Ott, Phi, LA), so while it was a cool story/narrative and a fun piece of trivia and history, the gap to close wasn't insurmountable.

Having said that, we're only 4 back, which obviously is not horrendous at all. Lucky for us, most of the conference is playing poorly, but with each game that these guys don't manage to pull a win out of their asses, that mountain to climb gets larger and larger, especially when they're getting awfully used to losing and our coaches quite clearly do not have any answers yet.

Completely agree, and like I said that was probably a one in a million scenario, but it just goes to show it can happen, and that we are wayyyyyyyyyy too early from thinking about playoff probabilities.  

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