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1 minute ago, jagknife said:

Tri, I honestly look forward most of the time to you coming on here and be the voice of reason. But they need a new coach, period, dot. Hynes' message has fallen on deaf ears, and he cannot find a way to get this team to shut down another team form less than 20 minutes and get a freaking win, yet again. If tonight was the first or even the second time they've blown a multi-goal lead, so be it. But we're 10 games in, and they've pissed away no fewer than 3 multi-goal leads. Someone needs to pay for that, and the fact Ray is stating pat is infuriating to me. His blind loyalty to Hynes and the clueless wonder Nasraddine is inexcusable.

I know he's worked miracles, literally building a good roster from a literal pile of cow-sh!t, but at some point, you have to look at your body of work and wonder why the hell a team that should easily compete for the wild card is floundering, yet again. And failing so emphatically.

I mean, again, tonight is not the night for this.  Yes, they blew a multi-goal lead.  They were dominating the game while they blew that lead.  When Tampa scored to make it 5-4, they didn't sag back.  They got several high-quality chances and had several good shifts in Tampa's end.  PK's stick breaks and they end up giving up a goal that goes in off Hall's skate and stick - it was Tampa's next chance to score and they did.  What can you do about that?  What is the coach supposed to do?  Tell the players to hang back and just allow Tampa in their zone?  What is the cure for that?  

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Just now, Triumph said:

I mean, again, tonight is not the night for this.  Yes, they blew a multi-goal lead.  They were dominating the game while they blew that lead.  When Tampa scored to make it 5-4, they didn't sag back.  They got several high-quality chances and had several good shifts in Tampa's end.  PK's stick breaks and they end up giving up a goal that goes in off Hall's skate and stick - it was Tampa's next chance to score and they did.  What can you do about that?  What is the coach supposed to do?  Tell the players to hang back and just allow Tampa in their zone?  What is the cure for that?  

Agreed, but when is enough enough. Cause after we scored in the first, we saw the same stupid passive defensive zone posture that lead to the lead gone and being behind 2-1.

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tonight is not on hynes - again, i would actually said he did a good job with the forward lines. he made some adjustments moving zacha and nico for a couple shifts with hall and palms. he moved coleman with nico on a shift or two. and he limited the 4th liners.

i know that we keep saying if they consistently play like they did tonight and against arizona, they win more often than they lose.

but goaltending can sink that every time and it has pretty much every time this season.

this team desparetely needs a LD1 and a league avg goaltender.

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7 minutes ago, sundstrom said:

tonight is not on hynes - again, i would actually said he did a good job with the forward lines. he made some adjustments moving zacha and nico for a couple shifts with hall and palms. he moved coleman with nico on a shift or two. and he limited the 4th liners.

i know that we keep saying if they consistently play like they did tonight and against arizona, they win more often than they lose.

but goaltending can sink that every time and it has pretty much every time this season.

this team desparetely needs a LD1 and a league avg goaltender.

That might resonate if not for this

 

 

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12 minutes ago, sundstrom said:

tonight is not on hynes - again, i would actually said he did a good job with the forward lines. he made some adjustments moving zacha and nico for a couple shifts with hall and palms. he moved coleman with nico on a shift or two. and he limited the 4th liners.

i know that we keep saying if they consistently play like they did tonight and against arizona, they win more often than they lose.

but goaltending can sink that every time and it has pretty much every time this season.

this team desparetely needs a LD1 and a league avg goaltender.

yeah at this point i think we'd still need a coaching change as a shake up but many losses like the Oilers games too was on the goaltending... if Blackwood controlled that puck. McDavid was not picking it up and scoring a tying goals at the end of the game. Same with many of our games that we lost by a goal.

Not that the team has been playing incredibly well every game... but well enough to win many of those

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1 hour ago, Daniel said:

Don’t even care if the team relocates because there’s nothing to root for.  

This is about the only line I won't cross. 

I do want to bring a large banner that says Hynes must go next game though. Something needs to change. I'm surprised the younger portion of this fan base, who have pretty much experienced nothing but losing besides 2012 haven't become more vocal themselves. 

Hynes might not even be completely at fault but we can't get rid of all the players and this guys has done nothing but basically lose since getting here. It's not acceptable anymore. 

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11 hours ago, NJDevils1214 said:

Post-game probably...

Hynes: Tough building.

Media: You were at home.

Hynes: Yea, tough building. 

You were so close! 

Just replace Hynes with Hall!

Hall: Tough building. 

 

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2 hours ago, Triumph said:

There are no new guys on this forum, it's the same 30 people and mfitz.  So okay, one new guy.  And you guys have mostly lost your collective minds with the losing this franchise has done over the last few years.    I mean, in truth, it was always insane - it's a fan forum and people overreact to wins and losses, that's what they do.  But if you're going to say something as ill thought out as 'this is the most embarrassing franchise in pro sports' - then yes, I am going to call it out, because it is ridiculous.  The Devils have lost a lot of games the last few years.  But they are trying to win.  There's 10 franchises in sports that aren't even trying.  There's 10 franchises owned by absentee or incompetent owners.  The Washington football team.  The Dolphins.  The Knicks.  The Marlins.  That's four off the top of my head - teams that are incompetently run that are sticking with incompetence.  Teams that just have no realistic chance of long-term success.  I'd throw the Raiders in there too though they might be doing well this season.

This team is going through a rough stretch but they have the talent to win some games.  They might have to get rid of the coach to win.  But tonight is not one of the nights where anyone should complain about the coach.   The Devils worked a team that had over 100 points last season.  They couldn't get the goaltending.  They might need help there by season's end.

You know what's funny?

The last guy who joined this forum and was quite active left the forum primarily because of MB cause he was constantly an a$$hole to him. That's a straight up fact, the dude even PMed me about it before he left. Of course and to be fair he was an emotional mess and an absolute goof, won't be missed much. But MB is still the one who sent him over the edge... not you with your bi-monthly posts. lol

Also welcome to the club of people apparently "telling MB how to react" when all we're doing is pointing out and mocking how ridiculous some reactions are after losses. 

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1 minute ago, SterioDesign said:

You know what's funny?

The last guy who joined this forum and was quite active left the forum primarily because of MB cause he was constantly an a$$hole to him. That's a straight up fact, the dude even PMed me about it before he left. Of course and to be fair he was an emotional mess and an absolute goof, won't be missed much. But MB is still the one who sent him over the edge... not you with your bi-monthly posts. lol

Also welcome to the club of people apparently "telling MB how to react" when all we're doing is pointing out and mocking how ridiculous some reactions are after losses. 

Lol you’re talking about glenwo? The entire forum couldn’t stand him. You guys bonded because y’all were #victims. 

but enough, already, Stan. I’ll send you my auto on a starter cap. 

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2 hours ago, MB3 said:

We’re the most embarrassing American professional sports organization I can think of.

i am ashamed to openly root for this lot of fvcking losers. 

As a fan of the NY Jets, I'm gonna have to disagree. 

Not that I'm enjoying the Devils season at all, but it could be worse

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2 hours ago, MB3 said:

We’re the most embarrassing American professional sports organization I can think of.

i am ashamed to openly root for this lot of fvcking losers. 

We're not even the most embarrasing organization I root for though the Devils are FAST passing the Mets and coming up right behind the Jets.  Rebuild 2.0 here we come!

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We aren't the worst team in professional sports but we have been one of the worst teams in the NHL in the past 8 years.... I even like our owners....However missing the playoffs 7 of the past 8 seasons is unacceptable. Just think of how bad we would be if we didn't win Nico and Hughes in the draft.

 

We are on pace to finish last in the division for the 3rd time in the past 4 years. It's unacceptable. 

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12 minutes ago, Satans Hockey said:

We aren't the worst team in professional sports but we have been one of the worst teams in the NHL in the past 8 years.... I even like our owners....However missing the playoffs 7 of the past 8 seasons is unacceptable. Just think of how bad we would be if we didn't win Nico and Hughes in the draft.

 

We are on pace to finish last in the division for the 3rd time in the past 4 years. It's unacceptable. 

Yep. To me this was Hynes make or break season. Shero added some nice pieces, and pretty much did everything he could to ice a competitive team. If things don’t turn around quickly Hynes has to go, and Schneider has to be bought out. You can’t just keep letting one player sink entire seasons year after year. 

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Hynes has to go simply because something has to change. The fire Hynes chants were starting tonight. He's just lucky that his name doesn't rhyme as easily with a chant like "Low must go" 

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3 hours ago, Satans Hockey said:

Hynes has to go simply because something has to change. The fire Hynes chants were starting tonight. He's just lucky that his name doesn't rhyme as easily with a chant like "Low must go" 

Hynes needs to go, now. I don’t care if it’s his fault or not, we’ve blown Literally half of our games 3 of those we had multi-goal leads. fvck the excuses already. You can’t trade 23 players, hell no one in the league would want a few of them anyway, so do the easy thing and fire the clueless wonder behind the bench. I mean you literally have the assistant GM right freaking there watching this disaster first hand. 

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8 hours ago, Triumph said:

There are no new guys on this forum, it's the same 30 people and mfitz. So okay, one new guy. 

I’ve been here for 6 years, I’m not sure I still qualify as a “new guy”, though maybe I’m not as old as the rest of you lol. 

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48 minutes ago, mfitz804 said:

I’ve been here for 6 years, I’m not sure I still qualify as a “new guy”, though maybe I’m not as old as the rest of you lol. 

Hey, at least you got a mention. Apparently I don’t even count as a “new guy” 

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7 hours ago, Devil Dan 56 said:

As a fan of the NY Jets, I'm gonna have to disagree. 

Not that I'm enjoying the Devils season at all, but it could be worse

OTOH the Devils are more tortorous game in and game out.  It's a question of would you rather be euthanized in the snap of a finger like the Jets do or would you rather be drawn, quartered and tortured before dying the way the Devils do?

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47 minutes ago, Nicomo said:

Hey, at least you got a mention. Apparently I don’t even count as a “new guy” 

If I’m a new guy, maybe you aren’t even here yet?

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I liked fw lines tonight.  Tough game for Schneids. I agree PK tries to do too much. Let's put some wins together. Shero, like he did in the burgh, will not fire Hynes, but let himself be fired, leaving that for new GM (MB-30).  

I don't know if Hynes can fix what's wrong.  Plot is thickening w/ T. Hall. So much to love about this team. So much to dislike. Oh, to be a Devils fan.

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9 hours ago, Satans Hockey said:

 I'm surprised the younger portion of this fan base, who have pretty much experienced nothing but losing besides 2012 haven't become more vocal themselves. 

 

I think they're not as vocal because they may not know what winning feels like.  We do, which is why this is so hard to deal with and such a shock.  5 or 6 years of a rebuild after 20 years of consistent winning feels like an eternity, but to young fans who have only experienced 82 game regular seasons and really no playoffs, it just feels normal.  

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38 minutes ago, mfitz804 said:

If I’m a new guy, maybe you aren’t even here yet?

Did you really only join this site 3 months before I did?  I thought you were here in the mid 2000s like some of these other regulars/long-timers.

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Can't really pin much of last night's loss on Hynes.  However, he still must go.  Something has to change.

It's the same reasoning how a team can be down 3-0 in the first period and they swap goalies.  Often times it is not the goalie's fault but it wakes up the rest of the team.

I wasn't expecting the team to be cup contenders, but I also didn't think they would be literally in the NHL basement again.

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8 hours ago, Satans Hockey said:

We aren't the worst team in professional sports but we have been one of the worst teams in the NHL in the past 8 years.... I even like our owners....However missing the playoffs 7 of the past 8 seasons is unacceptable. Just think of how bad we would be if we didn't win Nico and Hughes in the draft.

 

We are on pace to finish last in the division for the 3rd time in the past 4 years. It's unacceptable. 

The team is very weird.  They feel like the 2010 MacLean experiment but not at the same time.

They feel the same in that both teams had the talent to be successful but they just look completely out of whack.

They are different in that while MacLean's teams were often out of the game shortly after puck drop, Hynes' team this year actually gets 1, 2, 3 and even 4 goal leads and still manage to lose.

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1 minute ago, DevsMan84 said:

The team is very weird.  They feel like the 2010 MacLean experiment but not at the same time.

They feel the same in that both teams had the talent to be successful but they just look completely out of whack.

They are different in that while MacLean's teams were often out of the game shortly after puck drop, Hynes' team this year actually gets 1, 2, 3 and even 4 goal leads and still manage to lose.

This team is much more talented than what MacLean had.  Parise was out most of the year, there was no Henrique, and it took some really good coaches to make that set of defensemen into a competent unit. 

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