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17 hours ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said:

My only quibble with the above is that I would be OK with an interim guy for now.  I don’t think he has to find THE guy right away.  But Hynes and his crew definitely gotta go.  

Oh yeah I didn't mean he needs to find the guy to replace Hynes in the next two months, more he needs to start the process. 

I really thought Fitz was being groomed to be the interim when he came behind the bench.  Maybe that's still the plan, but this coaching staff needs to go. 

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9 hours ago, DevsMan84 said:

From the screenshots I saw posted that were retweeted, it looks like Abbey was saying during yesterday's game that the fire Hynes chants were "not gaining any traction."  Sorry but from the videos I saw it came through pretty loud and clear.  She apparently later deleted those tweets.

Further proof our non-team employed beat writers are part of the Devils Pravda.

I heard the chant clear as day on my speakers when watching the game. 

9 hours ago, DevsMan84 said:

From the screenshots I saw posted that were retweeted, it looks like Abbey was saying during yesterday's game that the fire Hynes chants were "not gaining any traction."  Sorry but from the videos I saw it came through pretty loud and clear.  She apparently later deleted those tweets.

Further proof our non-team employed beat writers are part of the Devils Pravda.

I heard the chant clear as day on my speakers when watching the game. 

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It's still sitting there lol... 

Says she couldn't hear it in the press box, lol sure... 

 

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27 minutes ago, Satans Hockey said:

I heard the chant clear as day on my speakers when watching the game. 

I was sitting in the Lofts for that game...I would say there was one batch of "FIRE HYNES!" had some real steam behind it.  There were a few other attempts, but they never really fully got going...you could hear them a little, but they were disjointed and died off relatively quickly.  Hopefully we'll see that kicked up a notch or three as long as Hynes still has a job. 

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48 minutes ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said:

I was sitting in the Lofts for that game...I would say there was one batch of "FIRE HYNES!" had some real steam behind it.  There were a few other attempts, but they never really fully got going...you could hear them a little, but they were disjointed and died off relatively quickly.  Hopefully we'll see that kicked up a notch or three as long as Hynes still has a job. 

Should be easier to get it going without all the morons in blue in the crowd. Especially if they lose tonight in Buffalo and are losing tomorrow at home. 

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1 minute ago, Satans Hockey said:

Should be easier to get it going without all the morons in blue in the crowd. Especially if they lose tonight in Buffalo and are losing tomorrow at home. 

Some FIRE HYNES signs peppered around the crowd would be good too on Tuesday.

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3 minutes ago, MadDog2020 said:

Some FIRE HYNES signs peppered around the crowd would be good too on Tuesday.

I'm surprised, and disappointed, that this hasn't happened yet.  

I have a friend who owns a t-shirt printing company - if someone will wear it, I will see if I can get that mock one made that I posted a few weeks ago.  I'll send it to you free of charge, would just need to know the size for whoever intends to wear it.

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At this point, knowing Shero and Hynes have a very close relationship.. I'm going to guess the firing comes after the holidays.

No one wants to have to leave their friend unemployed at Christmas.

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12 minutes ago, Devilsfan118 said:

At this point, knowing Shero and Hynes have a very close relationship.. I'm going to guess the firing comes after the holidays.

No one wants to have to leave their friend unemployed at Christmas.

You have more faith than I do.  I have no reason to believe Hynes is getting fired anytime soon.  If that's truly the reason, Shero is a fool and lets his emotions get in the way of business. Hynes is a millionaire.  He's going to be just fine.

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13 minutes ago, Devilsfan118 said:

At this point, knowing Shero and Hynes have a very close relationship.. I'm going to guess the firing comes after the holidays.

No one wants to have to leave their friend unemployed at Christmas.

Hynes got a contract extension over the summer and they will have to pay out his entire contract if they fire him. That alone is a nice enough Christmas gift to your buddy. 

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20 minutes ago, Devilsfan118 said:

At this point, knowing Shero and Hynes have a very close relationship.. I'm going to guess the firing comes after the holidays.

No one wants to have to leave their friend unemployed at Christmas.

If he gets fired the Devils will still be paying him so I wouldn't feel too sorry for him. Not only will he still be able to buy his kids Christmas presents he'll have plenty of time at home to enjoy the festivities.

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8 minutes ago, NJDfan1711 said:

You have more faith than I do.  I have no reason to believe Hynes is getting fired anytime soon.  If that's truly the reason, Shero is a fool and lets his emotions get in the way of business. Hynes is a millionaire.  He's going to be just fine.

Do not disagree - it's a stupid justification.  I would hope Shero isn't thinking like this but.. I wouldn't be surprised if this is the case, honestly.

7 minutes ago, Satans Hockey said:

Hynes got a contract extension over the summer and they will have to pay out his entire contract if they fire him. That alone is a nice enough Christmas gift to your buddy. 

Also do not disagree, at all.

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4 minutes ago, Satans Hockey said:

Hynes got a contract extension over the summer and they will have to pay out his entire contract if they fire him. That alone is a nice enough Christmas gift to your buddy. 

The extension was given to him in January of this season, and it was only to keep him from being a lame duck this year.  It was a pretty half-hearted extension...the bare minimum, really.  He's under contract through the end of next season.

 

28 minutes ago, Satans Hockey said:

Should be easier to get it going without all the morons in blue in the crowd. Especially if they lose tonight in Buffalo and are losing tomorrow at home. 

The bolded is a fair point.  By my eyes, I'd say it was about 40% Ranger fans...and of course, since they were the only ones that had anything to cheer about, they made their presence well-known. 

I gotta admit, I can't believe Hynes wasn't canned after that game.  There's more than enough that's happened that NO ONE could argue that this would've been a knee-jerk reaction. 

I'm still hopeful with Shero (I've said this elsewhere, but I think most of his moves have been good ones that just aren't working out, especially lately), but keeping Hynes here is almost starting to feel like trolling...damned near Met-like. 

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29 minutes ago, NJDfan1711 said:

You have more faith than I do.  I have no reason to believe Hynes is getting fired anytime soon.  If that's truly the reason, Shero is a fool and lets his emotions get in the way of business. Hynes is a millionaire.  He's going to be just fine.

The posts about timing of Hynes getting fired make me laugh every time. 
 

“ I’m going to be upset if he isn’t fired by 10am tomorrow”. 
 

There is ZERO indication that he will even be fired at all, let along on anyone’s perceived time schedule. 

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1 minute ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said:

I gotta admit, I can't believe Hynes wasn't canned after that game.  There's more than enough that's happened that NO ONE could argue that this would've been a knee-jerk reaction. 

I'm still hopeful with Shero (I've said this elsewhere, but I think most of his moves have been good ones that just aren't working out, especially lately), but keeping Hynes here is almost starting to feel like trolling...damned near Met-like. 

Yeah, this has me both worried and pissed at the same time.  Worried because it makes me question Shero's ability to build this team into a winner, and pissed because as you said it's almost troll-level.  There's no reason to keep Hynes anymore.  Zero.  And after Saturday it should've happened when the clock hit 0:00.  That was one of the worst games I've seen any NHL team play in long time. 

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2 minutes ago, mfitz804 said:

The posts about timing of Hynes getting fired make me laugh every time. 
 

“ I’m going to be upset if he isn’t fired by 10am tomorrow”. 
 

There is ZERO indication that he will even be fired at all, let along on anyone’s perceived time schedule. 

I agree there's no reason to believe he'll be fired soon - if it hasn't happened yet, what would give anyone an indication that it'll happen tomorrow?  The worst has already happened - we're at rock bottom, and Hynes is still here.  So yeah, I think he's staying.

But are you going to tell me you don't think it should've happened already?  Assuming your answer is no, then that would be putting a schedule to it...

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4 minutes ago, mfitz804 said:

The posts about timing of Hynes getting fired make me laugh every time. 
 

“ I’m going to be upset if he isn’t fired by 10am tomorrow”. 
 

There is ZERO indication that he will even be fired at all, let along on anyone’s perceived time schedule. 

I just look at each loss with jaw on the floor wondering how in the name of Zeus' butthole this idiot still has a job. Common sense would dictate he would have been fired, but here we are, still making you laugh every other game.

Its truly remarkable how someone so bad at their job has such job security. Like, if we had piss poor rosters still, fine, I get it, but as we said all the damn time now, this lineup shouldn't be this abysmal.

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7 minutes ago, mfitz804 said:

The posts about timing of Hynes getting fired make me laugh every time. 
 

“ I’m going to be upset if he isn’t fired by 10am tomorrow”. 
 

There is ZERO indication that he will even be fired at all, let along on anyone’s perceived time schedule. 

Yeah I'm definitely not a "By this specific time on this specific day" guy, but I do wonder exactly what the final straw is.  Saturday was just awful. 

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24 hours later and I'm still in awe at how it took a friggin RANGERS reporter to state the obvious and call out management on this mess and not any one of our useless beat writers.  However, deep down, I am not surprised.

Everything that is even mildly associated with the team is a gong show now.

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On 11/27/2019 at 1:03 AM, SterioDesign said:

 

I'm not on board with the concept that a coach "stifles" a players talent. You are what you are when you're drafted, and nothing more. A (good) head coach doesn't stand next to a player & give him pointers on how  to shoot better.  If your skating/shooting needs improvement, do it over the summer.(w/skills coach)  Tell me one guy Hynes has 'ruined"? This means he's never given player an opportunity to prove himself. Nico took a step back because of coaching?  Hall took a step back because of coaching? Has Subban taken a step back because of coaching? Has Hynes given Hughes an opportunity? Not a Hynes lover/hater and maybe he's lost the room?  We should know why he plays #15 & #16 instead of #37 & 63. Against certain teams you need physicality every shift. But just because they can't execute isn't entirely on head coach. Maybe this team is mediocre at best? 

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9 minutes ago, vadvlfan said:

I'm not on board with the concept that a coach "stifles" a players talent. You are what you are when you're drafted, and nothing more. A (good) head coach doesn't stand next to a player & give him pointers on how  to shoot better.  If your skating/shooting needs improvement, do it over the summer.(w/skills coach)  Tell me one guy Hynes has 'ruined"? This means he's never given player an opportunity to prove himself. Nico took a step back because of coaching?  Hall took a step back because of coaching? Has Subban taken a step back because of coaching? Has Hynes given Hughes an opportunity? Not a Hynes lover/hater and maybe he's lost the room?  We should know why he plays #15 & #16 instead of #37 & 63. Against certain teams you need physicality every shift. But just because they can't execute isn't entirely on head coach. Maybe this team is mediocre at best? 

This a terrible take. It is very much the coaches and assistant coaches job to get the most out of the talent, and especially - get those players to improve. Dare I say, it's literally.....coaching.

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24 minutes ago, vadvlfan said:

I'm not on board with the concept that a coach "stifles" a players talent. You are what you are when you're drafted, and nothing more. A (good) head coach doesn't stand next to a player & give him pointers on how  to shoot better.  If your skating/shooting needs improvement, do it over the summer.(w/skills coach)  Tell me one guy Hynes has 'ruined"? This means he's never given player an opportunity to prove himself. Nico took a step back because of coaching?  Hall took a step back because of coaching? Has Subban taken a step back because of coaching? Has Hynes given Hughes an opportunity? Not a Hynes lover/hater and maybe he's lost the room?  We should know why he plays #15 & #16 instead of #37 & 63. Against certain teams you need physicality every shift. But just because they can't execute isn't entirely on head coach. Maybe this team is mediocre at best? 

I'm not gonna say who Hynes may have ruined, but if you think a head coach isn't supposed to help a player who might be missing the net a lot lately try to shoot better, than I just have to wonder what you think a head coach is supposed to do.  Sure there are other guys on the staff that help out with that stuff too, but the answer simply isn't to "work on it over the summer".  You can't just encounter difficulty at the 10-game mark of the season and say "yeah, fvck the next 5 months, we can't fix it now - wait until June when we can really have a few months of consecutive training".   No, rather, the head coach IS supposed to be helping these guys in practice.  He's supposed to be coaching them to be better players - better shooters, better passers, better defenders, better penalty killers, etc etc.  

I think we can see that perhaps the talent level of all the guys we were so hyped about isn't quite there - Subban might be regressing as he enters his 30s (quicker than many anticipated), Hall might not ever be where he was after this knee injury, or perhaps he has just already peaked as well, Nico isn't a #1OA like Crosby or McDavid, who knows what Hughes will be, Smith is still in the minors, Gusev might not be as explosive as we had hoped, and so on and so on. All of that is possible.  But is it likely?  If you ask me, no way in fvck.  It's all too coincidental, and until the head coach is changed out, it's absolutely USESLESS to continue speculating.  There is literally one thing left to do with this team to try and figure out if that's the problem.  Everything else has been tried and done already.  New GM?  Check.  New goalie?  Check.  New forwards and defensemen?  Check.  What's the only common denominator left?!?!  I'm sick of it.  I can't even talk about it anymore.  I want Shero to read this message board because if we can see it, he should be able to.  fvck him.  

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33 minutes ago, vadvlfan said:

I'm not on board with the concept that a coach "stifles" a players talent. You are what you are when you're drafted, and nothing more. A (good) head coach doesn't stand next to a player & give him pointers on how  to shoot better.  If your skating/shooting needs improvement, do it over the summer.(w/skills coach)  Tell me one guy Hynes has 'ruined"? This means he's never given player an opportunity to prove himself. Nico took a step back because of coaching?  Hall took a step back because of coaching? Has Subban taken a step back because of coaching? Has Hynes given Hughes an opportunity? Not a Hynes lover/hater and maybe he's lost the room?  We should know why he plays #15 & #16 instead of #37 & 63. Against certain teams you need physicality every shift. But just because they can't execute isn't entirely on head coach. Maybe this team is mediocre at best? 

Oh boy, I disagree.  I think head coaches and their staffs can, and do, play a major role in the development of their young players. 

I think there's a major difference too between, say, coaching up a veteran by helping him adapt to your system and coaching a young player to adapt to the pro game and improve every facet of his game.

He's also clearly lost the room imo.

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1 hour ago, mfitz804 said:

The posts about timing of Hynes getting fired make me laugh every time. 
 

“ I’m going to be upset if he isn’t fired by 10am tomorrow”. 
 

There is ZERO indication that he will even be fired at all, let along on anyone’s perceived time schedule. 

Sadly I agree and I knew they probably weren’t firing Hynes in season the minute the Fitzgerald sham began. That just smacked of Shero trying to buy time.

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