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9 hours ago, SterioDesign said:

way too late? the blues were one of the last team in the league in JANUARY, they went through months of rumours of them willing to trade everyone and blowup the team.

And they won the cup.

Lets calm down a bit lol

the odds of something like that happening again anytime soon are as close to 0 as it can be. this to me can't be any justification as to why you keep him for another month or two.  it has been statistically proven that if you're x amount of points out of the playoffs come Thanksgiving, you're season is just about done. they are already close to that mark. yes, there are some exceptions but for the most part it's the truth.  just look what florida had to go a few seasons ago towards the end to just miss the playoffs. the season can't be won today but it can and is being lost.

 

think how if this continues, nobody will buy face value tickets (owners won't like that), nobody will be in the arena (owners won't like that) and those who are there are going to be pissed off and angry. sounds like a lot of fun. not to mention how toxic the locker room would probably be at yet again being a joke of a team who can't do anything right. or having these new/young guys just constantly be losers yet again on the ice in terms of results.

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If Shero pulls the trigger does it have to be a coach with NHL experience? I'm definitely no expert on the AHL or what it takes to get a coach from another NHL teams affiliate team but aren't their some promising coaches there? I've read that Sheldon Keefe of the Marlies is highly regarded. Pascal Vincent and Mike Vellucci were AHL coaches of the year the last couple of seasons. Any of them worth a look?

No matter what happens with Hynes though I'm 100% convinced Nasrredine needs to go. The defense has looked pregressively worse every season under him. Granted he hasn't had the best players to work with but Severson and Butcher were well regarded young players that haven't really improved under him. Mueller hasn't shown any improvement at all since he signed and Vatanen and Greene, two highly experience players, often look they haven't got a clue where they should be on the ice.

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1 minute ago, Aitchmack said:

If Shero pulls the trigger does it have to be a coach with NHL experience? I'm definitely no expert on the AHL or what it takes to get a coach from another NHL teams affiliate team but aren't their some promising coaches there? I've read that Sheldon Keefe of the Marlies is highly regarded. Pascal Vincent and Mike Vellucci were AHL coaches of the year the last couple of seasons. Any of them worth a look?

No matter what happens with Hynes though I'm 100% convinced Nasrredine needs to go. The defense has looked pregressively worse every season under him. Granted he hasn't had the best players to work with but Severson and Butcher were well regarded young players that haven't really improved under him. Mueller hasn't shown any improvement at all since he signed and Vatanen and Greene, two highly experience players, often look they haven't got a clue where they should be on the ice.

 

sadly, they probably all need to be fired at this point. not sure how realistic that is but that's what needs to happen. this team is dreadful, just like last season.

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So who will be starting the FIRE HYNES chant tomorrow? I want it loud and obnoxious. Our fan base specializes in both, so make it happen. 

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25 minutes ago, MadDog2020 said:

So who will be starting the FIRE HYNES chant tomorrow? I want it loud and obnoxious. Our fan base specializes in both, so make it happen. 

Will be hard to have something good when 10 people will be at the game. They have tried this before and it hasn't gone well attendance wise. Probably better than at 7 but still nobody will be there. Tix are like $10 on StubHub.

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33 minutes ago, MadDog2020 said:

So who will be starting the FIRE HYNES chant tomorrow? I want it loud and obnoxious. Our fan base specializes in both, so make it happen. 

Yeah seeing the crowd turning on its own player / coaches will sure help our chances to keep Hall. Who wouldnt want to play for a crowd like this

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8 minutes ago, SterioDesign said:

Yeah seeing the crowd turning on its own player / coaches will sure help our chances to keep Hall. Who wouldnt want to play for a crowd like this

I don’t care about upsetting Taylor Hall’s sensibilities- perhaps Hall would like to stop looking so miserable and maybe score a fvcking goal or two and maybe make a difference in winning a hockey game or two? I want what is right for the franchise. What is right for the franchise right now is firing the coaching staff. If the paying customers voice their displeasure, perhaps that may help in moving things along in that direction.

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3 minutes ago, SterioDesign said:

Yeah seeing the crowd turning on its own player / coaches will sure help our chances to keep Hall. Who wouldnt want to play for a crowd like this

I actually agree with this, but not for the sake of Hall, just for the sake of not being sh!tty.  Though it shouldn't have to be said, to humiliate Hynes like that would be really not cool. Hynes seems like a good person - and that things are not working out is not fun for anyone.  I don't know why we would taunt him out of the arena.

And yeah, you don't make players want to play here when you do something like that. Hall respects Hynes from everything we know - Hynes was a big part of Hall's rise as a Devil. I'm sure Hall would much rather win than have a coach he's friends with but yeah, maybe don't be a$$holes tomorrow whether Hall would care or not.

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6 minutes ago, Neb00rs said:

I actually agree with this, but not for the sake of Hall, just for the sake of not being sh!tty.  Though it shouldn't have to be said, to humiliate Hynes like that would be really not cool. Hynes seems like a good person - and that things are not working out is not fun for anyone.  I don't know why we would taunt him out of the arena.

And yeah, you don't make players want to play here when you do something like that. Hall respects Hynes from everything we know - Hynes was a big part of Hall's rise as a Devil. I'm sure Hall would much rather win than have a coach he's friends with but yeah, maybe don't be a$$holes tomorrow whether Hall would care or not.

Rag fans used to chant FIRE SATHER all the time- hasn’t stopped anyone from wanting to play there. If a chant makes you not want to play somewhere, perhaps it’s time to stop being a little bitch.

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Just now, MadDog2020 said:

Rag fans used to chant FIRE SATHER all the time- hasn’t stopped anyone from wanting to play there. If a chant makes you not want to play somewhere, perhaps it’s time to stop being a little bitch.

Yeah but my point was more...maybe let's not be like Rags fans?

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Just now, Neb00rs said:

Yeah but my point was more...maybe let's not be like Rags fans?

I couldn’t care less- I like it when fans voice their anger. We have that right. Things aren’t always sunshine and roses. No need to pretend. I want a loud-ass FIRE HYNES chant. 

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Just now, MadDog2020 said:

I don’t care about upsetting Taylor Hall’s sensibilities. I want what is right for the franchise. What is right for the franchise right now is firing the coaching staff.

Lol 

Think that through buddy. It comes down to being a place where players wants to play. You know what makes players not want to play for certain teams at times? When there's no one in the stands... also when the crowd can turn on them at the second things go bad. Let's be honest and admit that the crowd factor is not our best attribute so let's not try to damage that any further.

It's kind of hilarious that some people are SO entitled that they truly think them booing or wtv would make a difference lol You truly think the management is happy right now but somehow oblivious as to what to do? and that seeing the crowd turn on them would be the one thing to make them... "oh right!" maybe we need another coach!" 

It's just a plain and sh!tty way to be. Take that example in the world... if kids, students or new employees are struggling, what reaction would help them get better? to support them? or turn against them and make them feel worst about themselves? yeah that will certainly work.

come on now

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Hynes couldn’t win with Tampa’s roster.  
 

This team has not won with him and won’t win with him because he’s incompetent.

It’s not very hard.  Coaching matters, and Hynes can’t do it.  If you’re upset how it might effect players wanting to be here, losing sure as hell doesn’t help.

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3 minutes ago, SterioDesign said:

Lol 

Think that through buddy. It comes down to being a place where players wants to play. You know what makes players not want to play for certain teams at times? When there's no one in the stands... also when the crowd can turn on them at the second things go bad. Let's be honest and admit that the crowd factor is not our best attribute so let's not try to damage that any further.

It's kind of hilarious that some people are SO entitled that they truly think them booing or wtv would make a difference lol You truly think the management is happy right now but somehow oblivious as to what to do? and that seeing the crowd turn on them would be the one thing to make them... "oh right!" maybe we need another coach!" 

It's just a plain and sh!tty way to be. Take that example in the world... if kids, students or new employees are struggling, what reaction would help them get better? to support them? or turn against them and make them feel worst about themselves? yeah that will certainly work.

come on now

 

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4 minutes ago, SterioDesign said:

Lol 

Think that through buddy. It comes down to being a place where players wants to play. You know what makes players not want to play for certain teams at times? When there's no one in the stands... also when the crowd can turn on them at the second things go bad. Let's be honest and admit that the crowd factor is not our best attribute so let's not try to damage that any further.

It's kind of hilarious that some people are SO entitled that they truly think them booing or wtv would make a difference lol You truly think the management is happy right now but somehow oblivious as to what to do? and that seeing the crowd turn on them would be the one thing to make them... "oh right!" maybe we need another coach!" 

It's just a plain and sh!tty way to be. Take that example in the world... if kids, students or new employees are struggling, what reaction would help them get better? to support them? or turn against them and make them feel worst about themselves? yeah that will certainly work.

come on now

If Taylor doesn't understand people paying a ton of money for years, and booing at win-less team - I don't want him here. Focus on putting pucks in the net, wins in the standings - then he can complain about entitlement. 

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12 minutes ago, SterioDesign said:

Lol 

Think that through buddy. It comes down to being a place where players wants to play. You know what makes players not want to play for certain teams at times? When there's no one in the stands... also when the crowd can turn on them at the second things go bad. Let's be honest and admit that the crowd factor is not our best attribute so let's not try to damage that any further.

It's kind of hilarious that some people are SO entitled that they truly think them booing or wtv would make a difference lol You truly think the management is happy right now but somehow oblivious as to what to do? and that seeing the crowd turn on them would be the one thing to make them... "oh right!" maybe we need another coach!" 

It's just a plain and sh!tty way to be. Take that example in the world... if kids, students or new employees are struggling, what reaction would help them get better? to support them? or turn against them and make them feel worst about themselves? yeah that will certainly work.

come on now

oh fvck off already 

youre not allowed to go to zero fvcking Devils games per season and tell the people spending hundreds of dollars on tickets how they’re allowed to react, you gatekeeping fvck.

and as always, your analogies make me wonder if you have a mental issue. If my company has a new hire and we’re paying him $9 million dollars and he sits in his seat, fiddling with his wiener and googling granny porn instead of actually working, you really think he’s going to get a “don’t worry! Keep working at it!” Response?

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9 minutes ago, MB3 said:

oh fvck off already 

youre not allowed to go to zero fvcking Devils games per season and tell the people spending hundreds of dollars on tickets how they’re allowed to react, you gatekeeping fvck.

And you're telling me what i'm allowed to do or not? Who's the gatekeeping fvck. You fvck off.

I don't tell people NOT to do things. I'm telling them what i think they are if they act a certain way. Which is entitled and self centered bitches in this case.

I'm glad you think my opinion matters that much though. Kind of flattered. 

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6 minutes ago, SterioDesign said:

And you're telling me what i'm allowed to do or not? Who's the gatekeeping fvck. You fvck off.

I don't tell people NOT to do things. I'm telling them what i think they are if they act a certain way. Which is entitled and self centered bitches in this case.

I'm glad you think my opinion matters that much though. Kind of flattered. 

Lol you’re the worst troll. We’ve had some bad ones, you take the cake. If you don’t go to games, your opinion on the fans that do spend their time and money on travel and tickets means about as much as your opinion on literally anything else Devils related; absolutely fvcking zero. 

Name a single fanbase in professional sports that wouldn’t boo their winless-in-five team that had huge preseason expectations? 

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1 minute ago, MB3 said:

Name a single fanbase in professional sports that wouldn’t boo their winless-in-five team that had huge preseason expectations? 

Hey now.... we don’t Taylor Hall or John Hynes’ feelings to get hurt by having those mean fans yell. 🤣

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5 minutes ago, MB3 said:

Lol you’re the worst troll. We’ve had some bad ones, you take the cake. If you don’t go to games, your opinion on the fans that do spend their time and money on travel and tickets means about as much as your opinion on literally anything else Devils related; absolutely fvcking zero. 

Name a single fanbase in professional sports that wouldn’t boo their winless-in-five team that had huge preseason expectations? 

The good ol' getting personal to silence someone's opinion you don't agree with lol 

IF we accept that silly principle. Management is spending MILLIONS on their staff and players. Way more than any fans, so why should you guys tell them what to do? 

Obviously you'll just say it's a bad example so you can ignore your non-sense argument. You're that predictable

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4 minutes ago, SterioDesign said:

The good ol' getting personal to silence someone's opinion you don't agree with lol 

IF we accept that silly principle. Management is spending MILLIONS on their staff and players. Way more than any fans, so why should you guys tell them what to do? 

Fans are paying customers. Without paying customers, a business ceases to exist. When paying customers aren’t satisfied with a product they are spending their money on, they have a right to voice their displeasure. It doesn’t mean management has to or will respond to that displeasure- but the customer has every right to speak up. 

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22 minutes ago, MB3 said:

If my company has a new hire and we’re paying him $9 million dollars and he sits in his seat, fiddling with his wiener and googling granny porn instead of actually working, you really think he’s going to get a “don’t worry! Keep working at it!” Response?

Depends on what kind of company, I would think. 

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34 minutes ago, SterioDesign said:

Lol 

Think that through buddy. It comes down to being a place where players wants to play. You know what makes players not want to play for certain teams at times? When there's no one in the stands... also when the crowd can turn on them at the second things go bad. Let's be honest and admit that the crowd factor is not our best attribute so let's not try to damage that any further.

It's kind of hilarious that some people are SO entitled that they truly think them booing or wtv would make a difference lol You truly think the management is happy right now but somehow oblivious as to what to do? and that seeing the crowd turn on them would be the one thing to make them... "oh right!" maybe we need another coach!" 

It's just a plain and sh!tty way to be. Take that example in the world... if kids, students or new employees are struggling, what reaction would help them get better? to support them? or turn against them and make them feel worst about themselves? yeah that will certainly work.

come on now

I don’t boo my team at games, that’s my personal choice and I never do it. But I understand why some people do. 

I do have to agree, though, that a “Fire Hynes” chant isn’t going to suddenly make Ray realize a coaching change is warranted. But I don’t think that was the purpose in chanting it in the first place. 

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