Devs64 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 10 minutes ago, Neb00rs said: There's no need to burn down the house. Some of us got overzealous with our expectations for this team. We penciled Hughes and Gusev in as instant elite players and when you look at the lineup like that we have a great team. But when you recognize how green this team is, you can see that it's going to take awhile to get this thing right. Hughes is a really talented player and he will be a great player - he has too much skill and brains to not be. But what's clear is that he has to learn to adapt his game for the NHL. He can't just outskill everyone anymore. He's got to go against his instincts and make mature decisions with the puck. He's going to learn how to do that over this first season but he has to be as protected as possible while he does. We can't be throwing games away while he improves. Similar is true for Gusev - who is maybe a little better defensively but is much older. There's some serious positives to take away from the first two games as well - once you adjust your expectations for the first part of the season that is. PK Subban looks great out there, I think he is going to have a throwback season. Hischier looks like he has taken a big step forward - he hasn't produced much yet - but he is a seriously responsible player out there, is confident and makes good decisions. And finally, Jesper Boqvist looked great for it being his first game. He was strong enough to manage the physicality of the game and was smart with the puck. Not sure I saw any positives other than some good names on the paper, but you are right about the disappointment and anger due to unmet expectations. Too soon... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devils01 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 They need time to click. It will take minimum 10 games. It was to be expected. I’m not worried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilzz89 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 50 minutes ago, Neb00rs said: Not bullsh!t. Gusev is a terrible liability out there. Wood at least gets to the net, wins some battles, and puts himself in position to score. He doesn't score because he's a mess but that I think he should play is a reflection on the other players. How is he a liability? Did he turn the puck over?Also wood is good at chaos, thats about it. liability would be Severson, Mueller, Greene for starters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hit the post Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 1 hour ago, mfitz804 said: Hope Cory isn't going down this road...Mr Fragile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Brown Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 Nothing to recap tonight. There was nothing about this game to evaluate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicomo Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 Just now, Mike Brown said: Nothing to recap tonight. There was nothing about this game to evaluate. I feel cheated. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, Mike Brown said: Nothing to recap tonight. There was nothing about this game to evaluate. 1 minute ago, Nicomo said: I feel cheated. Seriously, you could’ve at least bullet pointed it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satans Hockey Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 It's really been all down hill since that Coleman goal. From going to that excitement to thinking Cory and Hall might be done for a long time to then blowing last nights game and getting destroyed in this one. I know it's only 2 games but this has been a real bummer since that goal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PacificDevil Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 Can we recall Mark Tennyson already and un-send Smith for 9 games ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satans Hockey Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 11 minutes ago, PacificDevil said: Can we recall Mark Tennyson already and un-send Smith for 9 games ? Smith looked absolutely horrible in the pre-season. Do you want this team to give up more goals? Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neb00rs Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 14 minutes ago, PacificDevil said: Can we recall Mark Tennyson already If you don't even know his first name, there's a good chance he isn't significant enough to make a difference. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicomo Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 I think we should put in Conrad Carrick, myself. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titans04 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Neb00rs said: There's no need to burn down the house. Some of us got overzealous with our expectations for this team. This is it for me. The last two nights have been a dose of reality. Still a long way to go but I'm going to choose to think we are on the right path. Hopefully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunninWithTheDevil Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 Some silver linings 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PacificDevil Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Satans Hockey said: Smith looked absolutely horrible in the pre-season. Do you want this team to give up more goals? Lol Lol - just kidding but in these 2 games Smith-Tennyson pairing couldn’t have been any worse than Severson-Mueller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 Clearly I should be VERY happy that I missed this one... Not panicking yet. It’s just too early for that...I gotta give these new talented faces time to get used to each other...even with some rather unsettling early-season ugliness. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgeControl Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 I was pissed at the 4 days off schedule, but not now, we need to regroup. Go out and Win 4 of the next 6.. OK I'll take three of six.. otherwise the heat on Hynes goes thru the roof.. along with my blood pressure 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagknife Posted October 6, 2019 Author Share Posted October 6, 2019 9 minutes ago, EdgeControl said: I was pissed at the 4 days off schedule, but not now, we need to regroup. Go out and Win 4 of the next 6.. OK I'll take three of six.. otherwise the heat on Hynes goes thru the roof.. along with my blood pressure This. He has zero excuse to not get this team on the right track. The talent is there, finally, and he needs to get them to produce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lateralous Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 Luckily I missed this one but watching the highlights, the level of effort Gusev had on the 4th goal against was cringeworthy. Glad we have a few days of practice and film review before the next game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 I just love how there's people here sh!tting on Gusev or a young guy playing his their first NHL games ever... them not doing enough or wtv. But not a single soul here said anything about Subban, a veteran who should know better who lost the puck at the blueline trying to do one of his flashy spin once again which lead director to a breakaway goal. Which is something he did for years and still havent learn. He played well other than that but i mean. Let's try to be fair at least lol the kids and gusev WILL adjust 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevils1214 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 21 minutes ago, SterioDesign said: I just love how there's people here sh!tting on Gusev or a young guy playing his their first NHL games ever... them not doing enough or wtv. But not a single soul here said anything about Subban, a veteran who should know better who lost the puck at the blueline trying to do one of his flashy spin once again which lead director to a breakaway goal. Which is something he did for years and still havent learn. He played well other than that but i mean. Let's try to be fair at least lol the kids and gusev WILL adjust Well, to be fair, one was an accident and he lost the puck. The other looked like an effort thing since Skinner basically skated in with no one even trying to cover him or take the pass away. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 4 minutes ago, NJDevils1214 said: Well, to be fair, one was an accident and he lost the puck. The other looked like an effort thing since Skinner basically skated in with no one even trying to cover him or take the pass away. Coverage was definitely dropped on that play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neb00rs Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, SterioDesign said: I just love how there's people here sh!tting on Gusev or a young guy playing his their first NHL games ever... them not doing enough or wtv. But not a single soul here said anything about Subban, a veteran who should know better who lost the puck at the blueline trying to do one of his flashy spin once again which lead director to a breakaway goal. Which is something he did for years and still havent learn. He played well other than that but i mean. Let's try to be fair at least lol the kids and gusev WILL adjust Who are you going after when you say, "I love how people are sh!tting on Gusev and Hughes"? I've been calling for them to be more protected, and definitely for them to be separated but that's hardly a bold suggestion. Both players have been terrible out there. Like you say, it's their first few games so such is nothing to be alarmed about but that doesn't negate the fact that changes need to be made if the Devils don't want to continue to lose 7-2. Hughes needs to play with someone who can win battles, play decent defense, and finish his passes. More and more, Kyle Palmieri and Blake Coleman are starting to look like good options. As far as PK Subban goes, I'm not going to make much of his mistake last night, that happens. Overall he's been driving play and creating shots. Edited October 6, 2019 by Neb00rs 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundstrom Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 13 minutes ago, Neb00rs said: Who are you going after when you say, "I love how people are sh!tting on Gusev and Hughes"? I've been calling for them to be more protected, and definitely for them to be separated but that's hardly a bold suggestion. Both players have been terrible out there. Like you say, it's their first few games so such is nothing to be alarmed about but that doesn't negate the fact that changes need to be made if the Devils don't want to continue to lose 7-2. Hughes needs to play with someone who can win battles, play decem defense, and finish his passes. More and more, Kyle Palmieri and Blake Coleman are starting to look like a good options. As far as PK Subban goes, in not going to make much of his mistake last night, that happens. Overall he's been driving play and creating shots. re: PK - that is absolutely correct. Plays like last night are the bad with all the good you get from him. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicomo Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 5 hours ago, SterioDesign said: I just love how there's people here sh!tting on Gusev or a young guy playing his their first NHL games ever... them not doing enough or wtv. But not a single soul here said anything about Subban, a veteran who should know better who lost the puck at the blueline trying to do one of his flashy spin once again which lead director to a breakaway goal. Which is something he did for years and still havent learn. He played well other than that but i mean. Let's try to be fair at least lol the kids and gusev WILL adjust *ahem* 18 hours ago, Nicomo said: Wood is straight comedy. JFC I liked the guy when he first came up, but wtf was I thinking?? great, even PK sucks now. 18 hours ago, Nicomo said: “Great” is probably a bit generous for PK’s play tonight... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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