mfitz804 11,686 Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Neb00rs said: *soft and loose It’s an excellent description of our play. And also diarrhea. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Triumph 1,415 Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 2 hours ago, Daniel said: Scoring literally no powerplay goals, having a PK below 50% and repeatedly blowing leads is not an issue of having R-R defensive pairs. It's the coaches, and if the analytics people have trouble figuring that out, they should go back to getting wedgies at gym class. Repeatedly blowing leads is an issue of having R-R pairs in that that makes your team worse. It makes them worse offensively and defensively. That's the point I'm trying to make. Just yelling about 'it's the coaches' doesn't say anything. Part of it is the situations they're putting the players in. They had R-R pairs on the PK today also. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel 1,653 Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 15 minutes ago, Triumph said: Repeatedly blowing leads is an issue of having R-R pairs in that that makes your team worse. It makes them worse offensively and defensively. That's the point I'm trying to make. Just yelling about 'it's the coaches' doesn't say anything. Part of it is the situations they're putting the players in. They had R-R pairs on the PK today also. I am positive that many teams go R-R or L-L for sustained periods of times on at least one line without the incompetence that this team shows. I say it’s the coaches because it’s about as obvious as it gets. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Triumph 1,415 Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, Daniel said: I am positive that many teams go R-R or L-L for sustained periods of times on at least one line without the incompetence that this team shows. I say it’s the coaches because it’s about as obvious as it gets. Again, you're talking without knowledge. Teams go L-L. Teams rarely go R-R, and the results of R-R pairings have been historically worse than L-L pairings. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mfitz804 11,686 Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 8 minutes ago, Triumph said: Again, you're talking without knowledge. Teams go L-L. Teams rarely go R-R, and the results of R-R pairings have been historically worse than L-L pairings. If this is our issue, it’s on a long fvcking list. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel 1,653 Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 11 minutes ago, Triumph said: Again, you're talking without knowledge. Teams go L-L. Teams rarely go R-R, and the results of R-R pairings have been historically worse than L-L pairings. Analytics is a cargo cult. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Triumph 1,415 Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, Daniel said: Analytics is a cargo cult. I doubt you can define either analytics or a cargo cult. But it's fun to talk about like that, certainly. R-R pairings were a big reason why things went so poorly today in the D zone. It's playing players in positions they are not comfortable in and they have to make a lot of quick reads from a different part of the ice. Carrick is not used to defending a shooter coming in from that side as Connolly was. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mfitz804 11,686 Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 8 minutes ago, Triumph said: I doubt you can define either analytics or a cargo cult. I used to see one every Saturday, basically all the dads at the soccer field. Oh, that’s a cargo SHORTS cult, never mind. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MadDog2020 8,940 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 57 minutes ago, Triumph said: Part of it is the situations they're putting the players in. One of the primary jobs of a coach is to put his or her players in the best position they can to succeed. So if you are suggesting the coaching staff deserves more time, this isn’t helping that argument. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Triumph 1,415 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 6 minutes ago, MadDog2020 said: One of the primary jobs of a coach is to put his or her players in the best position they can to succeed. So if you are suggesting the coaching staff deserves more time, this isn’t helping that argument. I'm not suggesting that, which is why this discussion is so asinine. I'm saying the coaching staff didn't put players in a position to succeed and that that is bad. I'm being told that coaching is the problem with the team. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MadDog2020 8,940 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, Triumph said: I'm saying the coaching staff didn't put players in a position to succeed and that that is bad Well then, we’re in agreement. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aclc79 300 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 23 minutes ago, Triumph said: I'm not suggesting that, which is why this discussion is so asinine. I'm saying the coaching staff didn't put players in a position to succeed and that that is bad. I'm being told that coaching is the problem with the team. Somethings going to give, and soon.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mfitz804 11,686 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 10 minutes ago, aclc79 said: Somethings going to give, and soon.... They’re giving me anxiety, giving me indigestion, going to give me a heart attack, etc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hit the post 173 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, Nicomo said: The 1:02 mark Also, how dare you insult the lovely and talented Lorraine Bracco! She has manly hands...So I dare Fredo. .. And yes I know Fredo was in the Godfather....Would you rather Maury ? Edited October 15, 2019 by hit the post Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MadDog2020 8,940 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 1 minute ago, hit the post said: She has manly hands...So I dare Fredo. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel 1,653 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 It’s asinine to think that a coach who only managed to squeak into the playoffs once in four years on an MVP effort of Taylor Hall is ever going to figure it out. He’s in line to have the most losses in franchise history going back to the Scouts. If the only thing you’re taking away from this is to not have a R-R defensive pair, you’re insane. Fire him. Tonight. Have a robot coach the team for a game or two if that’s what it takes. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mfitz804 11,686 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Daniel said: Fire him. Tonight. Have a robot coach the team for a game or two if that’s what it takes. Mike Brown? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Devs3cups 1,994 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 (edited) One of two teams in the league with no wins so far. If Chicago wins tonight, we'll be the only one. Edited October 15, 2019 by Devs3cups Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel 1,653 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 7 minutes ago, mfitz804 said: Mike Brown? Maybe Vicki from Small Wonder. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mfitz804 11,686 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, Daniel said: Maybe Vicki from Small Wonder. Same thing. But excellent reference. Edited October 15, 2019 by mfitz804 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PacificDevil 49 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Barry Melrose? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mfitz804 11,686 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 To those who attended: I did not hear one single “Rangers Suck, Flyers Swallow” chant during the entire game. Altogether possible it was too far away and too few people for me to hear, but I heard nothing. Anyone hear it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel 1,653 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, PacificDevil said: Barry Melrose? Now that’s someone who could be worse. 7 minutes ago, mfitz804 said: Same thing. But excellent reference. I feel Vicki would absolutely not take any crap. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mfitz804 11,686 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Daniel said: I feel Vicki would absolutely not take any crap. She definitely has a system...a computer system. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel 1,653 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, mfitz804 said: She definitely has a system...a computer system. When Miles Wood does something stupid, instead of getting more ice time.... Edited October 15, 2019 by Daniel 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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