GDT: Devils @ Jets 11/5/19 8:00 PM MSG

[MB3 5,332]

44 minutes ago, mfitz804 said:

It’s like saying if my aunt had balls, she’d be my uncle. 

It’s 2019, your aunt can have balls. 

while we’re on the topic of balls, who’s the worst Devils forward you’ve ever seen? I can’t decide between Zach Parise and Ilya Kovalchuk. 

[NJDfan1711 1,730]

17 hours ago, mfitz804 said:

Quoting me talking about how people spell it wrong. Like I said, whether or not you think it’s the girl’s version or not, it’s incorrect. 

Yeah, I know and agree.  

[Guadana 810]

58 minutes ago, MB3 said:

It’s 2019, your aunt can have balls. 

while we’re on the topic of balls, who’s the worst Devils forward you’ve ever seen? I can’t decide between Zach Parise and Ilya Kovalchuk. 

Absolutely Kovy. We lost much of pieces and last of reputation for him. 

[DevsMan84 2,366]

14 hours ago, Nicomo said:

Ofc you knew. If DM84 is to be believed you probably smelled him from across the room lol

God just reading this I could sort of "memory smell" that jersey and I am gagging here at my desk.

I've had other jerseys that I have received that were unwashed, but none were as horrifyingly as bad smelling as that one.

B.O. Parenteau is what I call him now.

[DevsMan84 2,366]

15 hours ago, ajsgolf said:

While we’re on the topic (even though you may not agree that we’re on that topic but I’ll start it any way because...we’ll, why not?) in your lifetime of watching defenseman, worst Devils defenseman you’ve ever seen is who?

For me I’d prob have to go between Salvador or Colin White.

Both Colin White and Bryce Salvador were decent to pretty good defensemen before their respective injuries.

Worst D-men for the Devils that I can think of off the top of my head in no particular order:

Merrill

Mottau

Klee

Havelid

Vishnevskiy

Mueller

[SterioDesign 3,147]

2 hours ago, Satans Hockey said:

That's a big if with the way the lotto is setup now because there's still no guarantee that happens. Look at Colorado who had the highest odds in 2017 and 2019 and dropped to fourth both times. 

which is why i put "might have" haha

4 minutes ago, DevsMan84 said:

God just reading this I could sort of "memory smell" that jersey and I am gagging here at my desk.

I've had other jerseys that I have received that were unwashed, but none were as horrifyingly as bad smelling as that one.

B.O. Parenteau is what I call him now.

oh that's the deal. I had no idea what he was talking about lol

[Colorado Rockies 1976 6,549]

Mottau was actually not bad for a while.  That’s when the Devils were squeezing passable (though often temporary) performances out of guys like Brookbank.

[DevsMan84 2,366]

4 minutes ago, SterioDesign said:

which is why i put "might have" haha

oh that's the deal. I had no idea what he was talking about lol

Yeah it was the Parenteau McMullen night gamer I bought.  It was nice but I since sold it much to the happiness of my wife.

[Colorado Rockies 1976 6,549]

2 minutes ago, SterioDesign said:

which is why i put "might have" haha

oh that's the deal. I had no idea what he was talking about lol

Picture a smell like the worst BO ever, combined with vomit...that’s the smell as DM described it to me.  The only unwashed jersey I’ve ever gotten was Zajac’s Elias Retirement, and on a scale of 1-10, I’d rate it a 2.  It was there, but barely.  You had to sniff the jersey within an inch or so to notice it at all.

[DevsMan84 2,366]

2 minutes ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said:

Mottau was actually not bad for a while.  That’s when the Devils were squeezing passable (though often temporary) performances out of guys like Brookbank.

I remember him being brutal in 09-10 season here.  He was often paired with White as our second or third pairing and they were getting pushed around a bit.

Brookbank is another name I often forget.  Him and Mark Fraser.

[DevsMan84 2,366]

1 minute ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said:

Picture a smell like the worst BO ever, combined with vomit...that’s the smell as DM described it to me.  The only unwashed jersey I’ve ever gotten was Zajac’s Elias Retirement, and on a scale of 1-10, I’d rate it a 2.  It was there, but barely.  You had to sniff the jersey within an inch or so to notice it at all.

lol yup that's the smell.  Maybe add a little raw sewage to the mix but the worst part was the vomit portion of the smell.  It just made you gag immediately.

At my former home, I had my jerseys in a closet in the finished part of the basement.  We would just open the door to the basement and the smell from the jersey would hit you like a brick wall.  It really did stink up the whole room.  Even airing it out for a few days on my deck and doing the dryer sheets in a box trick didn't work.

[Rob_Ottawa 86]

Mottau and Klee for sure.

I still have nightmares of the Game 7 meltdown vs Carolina.

Why was Mottau on the ice for those key moments, why?

[DevsMan84 2,366]

Just now, Rob_Ottawa said:

Mottau and Klee for sure.

I still have nightmares of the Game 7 meltdown vs Carolina.

Why was Mottau on the ice for those key moments, why?

Ask Brent Sutter.

I also believe Madden had the most TOI in the game as well

[Colorado Rockies 1976 6,549]

32 minutes ago, DevsMan84 said:

I remember him being brutal in 09-10 season here.  He was often paired with White as our second or third pairing and they were getting pushed around a bit.

Brookbank is another name I often forget.  Him and Mark Fraser.

His 2008-09 season was pretty good...somehow he was a +24.  But yeah, whatever “magic” he had didn’t last.  
 

It was odd seeing him wearing #27, as it was seeing both Clarkson and Tallackson wear that number briefly (Clarkson wore that during his first call-up, as Gomer was still wearing #23 at the time).  Guessing Lou might have been miffed for a while that Nieds didn’t accept Lou’s max offer, so dishing that number out to unproven meh guys at the time didn’t seem terribly sacrilegious to Lou.  
 

Of course, the most ridiculous jersey retirement of all time will be Jean Ratelle.  Only about a gazillion guys wore his number for the Rangers after he left.  And of course they only waited for how many years?  Absurd. 

[mfitz804 11,169]

2 hours ago, MB3 said:

It’s 2019, your aunt can have balls. 

while we’re on the topic of balls, who’s the worst Devils forward you’ve ever seen? I can’t decide between Zach Parise and Ilya Kovalchuk. 

My Aunt is a woman. My gut feeling is if she had a set of balls installed, she’d want to be called my uncle. Doesn’t matter to me, I wasn’t voicing an opinion about my aunt having balls. 

If we’re talking Elias is probably worse than both Kovy and Parise so I’ll go with him. 

[mfitz804 11,169]

4 minutes ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said:

His 2008-09 season was pretty good...somehow he was a +24.  But yeah, whatever “magic” he had didn’t last.  
 

It was odd seeing him wearing #27, as it was seeing both Clarkson and Tallackson wear that number briefly (Clarkson wore that during his first call-up, as Gomer was still wearing #23 at the time).  Guessing Lou might have been miffed for a while that Nieds didn’t accept Lou’s max offer, so dishing that number out to unproven meh guys at the time didn’t seem terribly sacrilegious to Lou.  
 

Of course, the most ridiculous jersey retirement of all time will be Jean Ratelle.  Only about a gazillion guys wore his number for the Rangers after he left.  And of course they only waited for how many years?  Absurd. 

I don’t agree with “holding” a guy’s number. If it’s not retired, it’s available. If Nieds retired a Devil, maybe it wouldn’t have gotten reassigned. Stevens, Dano, Elias, and Brodeur (mostly) we’re retired close to the end of their tenure, which makes sense. 

I don’t think the team should be worried about stuff like that. But weird for the fans? Yes. If Marty played like 3 seasons in St Louis and KK was assigned his number, that would have been ridiculous. 

[Nicomo 6,034]

Worst coach is an easy one lol

Or was there someone worse than MacLean in the 80’s? 

Edited November 7, 2019 by Nicomo

[DevsMan84 2,366]

8 minutes ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said:

His 2008-09 season was pretty good...somehow he was a +24.  But yeah, whatever “magic” he had didn’t last.  
 

It was odd seeing him wearing #27, as it was seeing both Clarkson and Tallackson wear that number briefly (Clarkson wore that during his first call-up, as Gomer was still wearing #23 at the time).  Guessing Lou might have been miffed for a while that Nieds didn’t accept Lou’s max offer, so dishing that number out to unproven meh guys at the time didn’t seem terribly sacrilegious to Lou.  
 

Of course, the most ridiculous jersey retirement of all time will be Jean Ratelle.  Only about a gazillion guys wore his number for the Rangers after he left.  And of course they only waited for how many years?  Absurd. 

Ratelle's jersey retirement was a clear-cut money grab.  His last game in a Ranger uniform was 42 friggin years before the retirement ceremony.  I can imagine very few Rangers watching that ceremony could even remember him playing for them.

I think unless in some absolute, extreme circumstances teams should not even bother retiring players numbers after 20+ years have passed since their last game in their uniform.

[jagknife 3,502]

I always hated DeBoer’s infatuation with Peter fvcking Harold. While a serviceable 7th defender, DeBoer LOVED that piece of sh!t and even threw him in as a forward. You guys remember that sh!t?

God I can feel my rage building...

[Nicomo 6,034]

2 minutes ago, jagknife said:

I always hated DeBoer’s infatuation with Peter fvcking Harold. While a serviceable 7th defender, DeBoer LOVED that piece of sh!t and even threw him in as a forward. You guys remember that sh!t?

God I can feel my rage building...

Yep lol

[NewarkDevil5 107]

If I had to pick a guy who just plain couldn't play defense at all but whose shot made us wish he could figure it out, Eric Gelinas.

[DevsMan84 2,366]

5 minutes ago, NewarkDevil5 said:

If I had to pick a guy who just plain couldn't play defense at all but whose shot made us wish he could figure it out, Eric Gelinas.

I keep forgetting about him.  I guess that is on purpose lol.

[Colorado Rockies 1976 6,549]

40 minutes ago, mfitz804 said:

I don’t agree with “holding” a guy’s number. If it’s not retired, it’s available. If Nieds retired a Devil, maybe it wouldn’t have gotten reassigned. Stevens, Dano, Elias, and Brodeur (mostly) we’re retired close to the end of their tenure, which makes sense. 

I don’t think the team should be worried about stuff like that. But weird for the fans? Yes. If Marty played like 3 seasons in St Louis and KK was assigned his number, that would have been ridiculous. 

I wasn’t saying #27 shouldn’t have been made available at all (especially if Lou wasn’t sure about ever retiring the number as Scott’s at the time)...more that it was weird seeing it on such meh kinda guys (in comparison).  And though I don’t think Lou was any near obsessed about it, I guess I’m mildly surprised that he wasn’t more “selective” about who got to wear it after Nieds?  

[devlman 882]

1 hour ago, jagknife said:

I always hated DeBoer’s infatuation with Peter fvcking Harold. While a serviceable 7th defender, DeBoer LOVED that piece of sh!t and even threw him in as a forward. You guys remember that sh!t?

God I can feel my rage building...

Any defenseman who was on a cup final team gets a pass from me. Harold was on our top PP unit, man.

[jagknife 3,502]

2 minutes ago, devlman said:

Any defenseman who was on a cup final team gets a pass from me. Harold was on our top PP unit, man.

Hey, fair opinion, its yours, but I absolutely hate it... won't try to sway you to my side, but I vehemently disagree of giving players a pass just because they were on a team that made the final.