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5 minutes ago, MadDog2020 said:

I wouldn’t mind another one. This organization lacks depth on the blue line.

I think that’s exactly what we need, actually. Of course, we need the original one to play like Ty Smith first. 

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3 hours ago, vadvlfan said:

Drysdale= Ty Smith. Already got one.

Drysdale is a much better prospect than Ty Smith. He’s pretty much consensus top 5 pick. Smith went 17th. That’s a big difference. 

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3 hours ago, Nicomo said:

Drysdale is a much better prospect than Ty Smith. He’s pretty much consensus top 5 pick. Smith went 17th. That’s a big difference. 

I don't disagree, but wasn't Smith projected top 10 though? I thought that's why he was such a steal at 17.

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1 hour ago, NJDevils1214 said:

I don't disagree, but wasn't Smith projected top 10 though? I thought that's why he was such a steal at 17.

He might of been, I’m not really sure. I’d still say Drysdale has been a much more touted prospect though. He’s the #1 defenseman in his class. Ty’s had Dahlin, Hughes, and a couple other guys go ahead of him. 

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13 minutes ago, Nicomo said:

He might of been, I’m not really sure. I’d still say Drysdale has been a much more touted prospect though. He’s the #1 defenseman in his class. Ty’s had Dahlin, Hughes, and a couple other guys go ahead of him. 

All true. I looked and some had him as low as 13 so he may have been a steal but depends on who you're asking I guess. That draft class has some elite players in the top 10 and Hughes going at 6 gives me some hope NJ can steal something at 7 (Rossi). 

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We need a stud dman who can win dirty battles behind our goal.. not sure if ty smith is ever going to be that guy.  He looked anything but strong handling the dump and chase.  If that defense man isnt there, I'm hoping for a 30 goal winger.

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1 hour ago, EdgeControl said:

We need a stud dman who can win dirty battles behind our goal.. not sure if ty smith is ever going to be that guy.  He looked anything but strong handling the dump and chase.  If that defense man isnt there, I'm hoping for a 30 goal winger.

If i'm going to pick in the top 10 for a dman... i'm going to want a dman that is incredible offensively or amazing 2 way. I wouldn't want to use a top 10 pick on a shut down dman who won't produce much, if you look around the league most of those guys were almost always picked wayyy later. You really need to shoot for a very special player when you get a good pick like this.

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2 hours ago, EdgeControl said:

We need a stud dman who can win dirty battles behind our goal.. not sure if ty smith is ever going to be that guy.  He looked anything but strong handling the dump and chase.  If that defense man isnt there, I'm hoping for a 30 goal winger.

I have to agree, I think a top pairing d-man or a 30 goal scorer is perfect for our team. 

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51 minutes ago, mfitz804 said:

I have to agree, I think a top pairing d-man or a 30 goal scorer is perfect for our team. 

let's agree to disagree. I think we need a franchise dman and a 50 goal scorer. That idealy would both one day be legendary players that people name their kids after

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Unless we were picking 1st or 2nd I am not too bothered about picking 7th. There doesn't seem to be too much consensus around the order 3-10. Every player seems to have some upsides as well as down. But over the last few years the 7th round pick has thrown up some good players. 

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48 minutes ago, SterioDesign said:

let's agree to disagree. I think we need a franchise dman and a 50 goal scorer. That idealy would both one day be legendary players that people name their kids after

Ok ok, we can disagree. Two franchise d-men, a 60 goal scorer, two 30 goal scorers, and a franchise goalie, half of whom are born in Montreal. That’s what we need. 

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23 minutes ago, mfitz804 said:

Ok ok, we can disagree. Two franchise d-men, a 60 goal scorer, two 30 goal scorers, and a franchise goalie, half of whom are born in Montreal. That’s what we need. 

all of them for one 7th pick. 

if ARI pick will be ours and devs pick rossi and quinn - will be no matter whose merits are greater in their tandem.

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2 hours ago, Chimaira_Devil_#9 said:

Unless we were picking 1st or 2nd I am not too bothered about picking 7th. There doesn't seem to be too much consensus around the order 3-10. Every player seems to have some upsides as well as down. But over the last few years the 7th round pick has thrown up some good players. 

Looking at the last 10 #7 picks and it’s extremely encouraging...

Jeff Skinner, Mark Scheifele, Matthew Dumba, Darnell Nurse, Hayden Fluery, Ivan Provorov, Clayton Keller, Lias Andersson, Quinn Hughes, Dylan Cozens

There’s some great players in there. I don’t know much about Fleury, and Cozens is obviously still TBD, but the only real bust in there looks to be Andersson (LOL). 

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34 minutes ago, Nicomo said:

Jeff Skinner, Mark Scheifele, Matthew Dumba, Darnell Nurse, Hayden Fluery, Ivan Provorov, Clayton Keller, Lias Andersson, Quinn Hughes, Dylan Cozens

He was in the NHL long enough to fall down, so that’s something. 

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1 hour ago, Devilsfan118 said:

Still salty about this stupid outcome.  

Yup Bettman can spin this by saying the odds were like every other draft lottery. But the truth is that it's not like the others. The "field bet" odds for teams potentially in the playoffs were too high. Play in chance AND a lottery ball.. bullsh!t...

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On ‎6‎/‎28‎/‎2020 at 3:23 PM, Chimaira_Devil_#9 said:

Unless we were picking 1st or 2nd I am not too bothered about picking 7th. There doesn't seem to be too much consensus around the order 3-10. Every player seems to have some upsides as well as down. But over the last few years the 7th round pick has thrown up some good players. 

Yep......like Provorov

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4 hours ago, EdgeControl said:

Yup Bettman can spin this by saying the odds were like every other draft lottery. But the truth is that it's not like the others. The "field bet" odds for teams potentially in the playoffs were too high. Play in chance AND a lottery ball.. bullsh!t...

The bolded is my one beef here.  The Devils falling one spot I can live with...it happens, and I can only imagine how Detroit and Ottawa are feeling (falling from potentially #1 and #2 to #4 and #5, though at least Ottawa had SJ's pick at #3 to soften the blow a little).  

But yeah, with the "field bet" odds that the other teams had, that pick shouldn't have been any higher than #4 overall...if you want to make an argument for #3, I guess you can make it, but #4 feels more "right".  aylbert pointing out how the collective odds gave the field bet crowd too favorable of a chance to get the #1 seed shows that this system was flawed from its inception.    

But like others have said, though I don't believe that the result was rigged (no way that the Devils get two #1s in three years if the system truly was), it just feels wrong...wrong enough that people are going to say "Of course, there goes the friggin' NHL manufacturing drama and interest!"  It's not a good look.  

 

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50 minutes ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said:

The bolded is my one beef here.  The Devils falling one spot I can live with...it happens, and I can only imagine how Detroit and Ottawa are feeling (falling from potentially #1 and #2 to #4 and #5, though at least Ottawa had SJ's pick at #3 to soften the blow a little).  

But yeah, with the "field bet" odds that the other teams had, that pick shouldn't have been any higher than #4 overall...if you want to make an argument for #3, I guess you can make it, but #4 feels more "right".  aylbert pointing out how the collective odds gave the field bet crowd too favorable of a chance to get the #1 seed shows that this system was flawed from its inception.    

But like others have said, though I don't believe that the result was rigged (no way that the Devils get two #1s in three years if the system truly was), it just feels wrong...wrong enough that people are going to say "Of course, there goes the friggin' NHL manufacturing drama and interest!"  It's not a good look.  

 

Yeah for me if it would have been one draft lottery once all the non-playoffs team were set then it would be so much better. Philly won the 2nd lottery in 2017 and it was "fine". But now the way it was done it's just making everything worst.

And again, it's even more frustrating cause this is all because they wanted that play-in round to get chicago and MTL in. That's what the most infuriating to me, they rigged that whole thing around that when it made not much sense.

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I'm bummed because I really had my sights on Rossi and now that DET can't possibly get Stützle, Rossi may be their next choice. 

Not really sure how excited I'd feel taking Raymond or Perfetti. They just seem like high ceiling with high risk. I know he's further down the list but I like Lundell. I'm just hoping NJ's scouting team has done their homework. Hischier and Hughes were easy, they need to prove they pick correctly in the top 10. At the end of the day I don't know sh!t, that's why I sit behind my keyboard and type furiously on this board. 

Anyway, still crazy that a team playing for a playoff spot will get such a consolation prize over DET or OTT who desperately need some help. 

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1 hour ago, NJDevils1214 said:

I'm bummed because I really had my sights on Rossi and now that DET can't possibly get Stützle, Rossi may be their next choice. 

Not really sure how excited I'd feel taking Raymond or Perfetti. They just seem like high ceiling with high risk. I know he's further down the list but I like Lundell. I'm just hoping NJ's scouting team has done their homework. Hischier and Hughes were easy, they need to prove they pick correctly in the top 10. At the end of the day I don't know sh!t, that's why I sit behind my keyboard and type furiously on this board. 

Anyway, still crazy that a team playing for a playoff spot will get such a consolation prize over DET or OTT who desperately need some help. 

Perfetti is supposed to be one of the best natural goal scorers of this draft class (after Laffy). The only knock of him seems to be his skating, but we desperately need guys that can put the puck in the net for Nico and Jack. 

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