HellOnICE Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 4 minutes ago, Daniel said: The fact that all the potential replacements within the organization suck too is also Ray’s fault. This is a good point. And I’ve been annoyed by you recently 😬 I think a head coach needs to be also in the business of grooming future coaches—and I just don’t see that here either. And you don’t need to have a replacement to know this staff is not working. That’s what interim is for. You can go find an interim somewhere while you evaluate. Noel, Horacheck, Fitz, even Dennehy can hold it down. Lou himself would go behind the bench if he didn’t like the options, I’m all for Ray doing the same- with someone like Patrik and Salvador as assistants. John Madden is out there, Marty is in the office, Holik is out there to help. We have a lot of smart alumni who can help this team, there are options. Again- interim. Let’s see what’s happening. What I know is this team stinks with Hynes, rock bottom- time for a new voice and fresh start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 5 minutes ago, HellOnICE said: This is a good point. And I’ve been annoyed by you recently 😬 I think a head coach needs to be also in the business of grooming future coaches—and I just don’t see that here either. And you don’t need to have a replacement to know this staff is not working. That’s what interim is for. You can go find an interim somewhere while you evaluate. Noel, Horacheck, Fitz, even Dennehy can hold it down. Lou himself would go behind the bench if he didn’t like the options, I’m all for Ray doing the same- with someone like Patrik and Salvador as assistants. John Madden is out there, Marty is in the office, Holik is out there to help. We have a lot of smart alumni who can help this team, there are options. Again- interim. Let’s see what’s happening. What I know is this team stinks with Hynes, rock bottom- time for a new voice and fresh start. What other evidence does one need to show Shero does not believe coaching matters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titans04 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 1 hour ago, NJDevs4978 said: If only Nico was awful that'd be one thing. Pretty much the whole team is frigging awful, vets included starting with Subban who hasn't had a POINT in a month. I can't draw conclusions on any individual player until they do what needs to be done with this joke of a staff. I'm with you on the younger guys for now but not with PK. The guy is in the fast lane on the downside of his career. It makes me dizzy to know he's the 3rd highest paid defensemen in the league. He may have a highlight here or there the rest of the way but he's nothing like what Ray thought he was getting night in and night out. As for the young guys the pass is based on age and the sh!t show this has become. I have doubts about a couple but I'll put them on hold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Daniel said: The fact that all the potential replacements within the organization suck too is also Ray’s fault. Wanna see a fan base melt down? Hynes out, Nasreddine is the new interim head coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundstrom Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, mfitz804 said: Wanna see a fan base melt down? Hynes out, Nasreddine is the new interim head coach. this is the last thing i'm concerned about as they are and have always been a package deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 59 minutes ago, pumpkin cutter said: wonder if vats is a goner. he's one guy who seems to like it here. Stop wondering, he’s gone. Unless there’s an unforeseen extension, he has to be moved at the trade deadline, you can’t just give up that kind of asset. And that whole “we can trade him and then re-sign him after” thing never works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 3 minutes ago, sundstrom said: this is the last thing i'm concerned about as they are and have always been a package deal. I wasn’t being serious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicomo Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 16 minutes ago, mfitz804 said: Wanna see a fan base melt down? Hynes out, Nasreddine is the new interim head coach. That would be enough for me to call for Shero’s head lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pumpkin cutter Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 babcock would look good in NJ. least get the team heading in the right direction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 1 minute ago, pumpkin cutter said: babcock would look good in NJ. least get the team heading in the right direction. Away from Hynes is the right direction, so yes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 3 minutes ago, pumpkin cutter said: babcock would look good in NJ. least get the team heading in the right direction. Even though I think the stuff that came out about him is overblown, Babcock is toxic right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pumpkin cutter Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, Daniel said: Even though I think the stuff that came out about him is overblown, Babcock is toxic right now. and what is this that we have now? id take toxic over garbage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 9 minutes ago, pumpkin cutter said: and what is this that we have now? id take toxic over garbage. I think I agree. A shakeup is what is needed and I think he’d provide that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HellOnICE Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Well....Hynes is going to Buffalo so not fired. Insanity. If he's still here in a week, I'm all for ousting Ray as well. Let Fitz or Marty take the reigns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 29 minutes ago, pumpkin cutter said: and what is this that we have now? id take toxic over garbage. Toxic in a different way, like he’ll be a distraction no matter how competent he is. It stinks that it results in John Hynes still being employed, but as much as I think Shero destroys this franchise each day he doesn’t get it through his spray on hair that having good coaches matters, Babcock can’t be the replacement right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PacificDevil Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Babcock would be worse - this team right now needs a babysitter who’s going to feel sorry for them first - like Lemaire was in 2010 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titans04 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 8 minutes ago, PacificDevil said: Babcock would be worse - this team right now needs a babysitter who’s going to feel sorry for them first - like Lemaire was in 2010 I can only imagine the outrage when Babcock criticizes, or god for bid sits an underperforming kid or fan fave. Would be kinda fun to sit back and watch. He's a hardass, pompous A-type personality that would bring the tears. I think his time has come and gone in the league as a coach but he's not Hynes so he has that going for him. Personally I don't want someone here to coddle anybody but more like someone down the middle. Babysitters need not apply either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satans Hockey Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Fire the entire coaching staff already, it's long overdue... https://nypost.com/2019/11/30/ray-shero-cant-let-this-devils-disaster-go-on-much-longer/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevs4978 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 2 hours ago, mfitz804 said: Wanna see a fan base melt down? Hynes out, Nasreddine is the new interim head coach. Or Kowalsky. Really all of them gotta go. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pumpkin cutter Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 (edited) 39 minutes ago, Satans Hockey said: Fire the entire coaching staff already, it's long overdue... https://nypost.com/2019/11/30/ray-shero-cant-let-this-devils-disaster-go-on-much-longer/ this guy does not like the devils. he has some points, but he's really stickin it. Edited December 1, 2019 by pumpkin cutter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HellOnICE Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Brooks don't not like the Devils. Good column, something someone who doesn't cover the team day to day, easier to write this. Although - he does write this kind of stuff for Rangers if need be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 2 hours ago, Daniel said: Even though I think the stuff that came out about him is overblown, Babcock is toxic right now. You're also toxic to this fan base right now 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagknife Posted December 1, 2019 Author Share Posted December 1, 2019 20 minutes ago, HellOnICE said: Brooks don't not like the Devils. Good column, something someone who doesn't cover the team day to day, easier to write this. Although - he does write this kind of stuff for Rangers if need be. It’s better than she-who-won’t-be-named that mocks the fans for trying to chant Fire Hynes. Or Chris “softball questions” Ryan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 1 hour ago, SterioDesign said: You're also toxic to this fan base right now GM with a history of failure refuses to fire an incompetent coach and will be trading Taylor Hall for pennies on the dollar, but I’m the problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smelly Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 4 minutes ago, Daniel said: GM with a history of failure refuses to fire an incompetent coach and will be trading Taylor Hall for pennies on the dollar, but I’m the problem? No, you are just a miserable a$$hole. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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