titans04 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 (edited) Quick someone please gets Fitz some Depends ASAP. After watching him just talk he's clearly sh!tting his pants. Going full Trump strategy here, full interms across the board. Edited January 13, 2020 by titans04 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 just heard the owner talk... based on what they said i'm scared they have the same logic some fans here have... they can only look at results and absolutely ignore context. Which is the worst possible way to look at things 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devlman Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Just now, Devil Dan 56 said: I'm with you for most of this, because when you are assessing things you have to include ALL of the young talent no matter where they were drafted, but we have no way of knowing the bolded. My speculation re Lou but my point was that Nico was no consensus pick. Glad Shero was wise enough to pick him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimaira_Devil_#9 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 I think some very poor recent decision making has cost Ray his Job. I think this comes down to Ray taking too long to right the wrongs of the early season and basically wanting to burn another year and ownership not agreeing. Not firing Hynes early into this season I think got ownerships back up. The fact that the team has looked much improved in recent weeks had actually cost Ray I think. His reluctance to deal with Cory in a timely manner hurt the team as well. The whole Hall situation was a horrible mess, ownership can't have been pleased with losing one of the biggest draws to the team for not much return. It will all come out in the wash and Ray will 100% find another gig. He is IMO a good GM. But in sport I don't think you get to make that many fvck ups in quick succession without consequences. Ray has paid the price for all of his missteps coming in a 5 month span. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titans04 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 1 minute ago, SterioDesign said: just heard the owner talk... based on what they said i'm scared they have the same logic some fans here have... they can only look at results and absolutely ignore context. Which is the worst possible way to look at things That was downright scary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devlman Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 1 minute ago, MB3 said: Well on their way to the third consecutive playoff birth; playoff series wins in consecutive seasons and took the eventual champion Raptors to 7 games (who needed a buzzer beater to end it)... that’s the way. They were historically bad for MANY years to get there though. Hopefully there’s a more efficient and prideful way to get there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikepeluso8 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 8 minutes ago, Neb00rs said: Looks Shero sent Fitzgerald down to the bench to diagnose the problems with team and he came back to the owners and told them the problem is Ray Shero. hahahahaaaaa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil Dan 56 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, devlman said: My speculation re Lou but my point was that Nico was no consensus pick. Glad Shero was wise enough to pick him. One of my favorite Ray moves for sure, as I was all about Patrick and I was very very wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satans Hockey Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, SterioDesign said: just heard the owner talk... based on what they said i'm scared they have the same logic some fans here have... they can only look at results and absolutely ignore context. Which is the worst possible way to look at things Your logic is also that half a decade isn't a very long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikepeluso8 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 I don't catch any Ranger games out here in CA. How has Kakko looked this season in relation to Hughes? Curious to hear some insight here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titans04 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 1 hour ago, devlman said: You can’t be evaluating this season strictly based on points when we are REBUILDING. That's exactly what the owners just called out though, not winning. So my question to them is what is it then? They can't have it both ways. Just now, mikepeluso8 said: I don't catch any Ranger games out here in CA. How has Kakko looked this season in relation to Hughes? Curious to hear some insight here... Bad should be in Hartford, invisible and showing no signs of coming on. And I was a Kakko guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titans04 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 1 hour ago, mfitz804 said: Maybe he was fired after it was announced that Zacha was playing on the first line. brother that straw would break any camels back!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devlman Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 1 minute ago, titans04 said: That's exactly what the owners just called out though, not winning. So my question to them is what is it then? They can't have it both ways. Which is why the firing was completely ridiculous and unfair. The team has been winning lately. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, Satans Hockey said: Your logic is also that half a decade isn't a very long time. Thats because i understand context. 5 years is a long time to pick a movie on Netflix but to rebuild a team from the team in 2015 with no assets... its not long tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 10 minutes ago, titans04 said: That was downright scary. yup that's the perfect definition. I legit felt scared. I was willing to trust the process cause i understood the situation. This is showing they don't get it 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikepeluso8 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 7 minutes ago, titans04 said: That's exactly what the owners just called out though, not winning. So my question to them is what is it then? They can't have it both ways. Bad should be in Hartford, invisible and showing no signs of coming on. And I was a Kakko guy. even though he's even with Hughes in stats? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgeControl Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Wonder if Nas goes back to Nashville on the preds plane in two week.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HellOnICE Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 14 minutes ago, Chimaira_Devil_#9 said: I think some very poor recent decision making has cost Ray his Job. I think this comes down to Ray taking too long to right the wrongs of the early season and basically wanting to burn another year and ownership not agreeing. Not firing Hynes early into this season I think got ownerships back up. The fact that the team has looked much improved in recent weeks had actually cost Ray I think. His reluctance to deal with Cory in a timely manner hurt the team as well. The whole Hall situation was a horrible mess, ownership can't have been pleased with losing one of the biggest draws to the team for not much return. It will all come out in the wash and Ray will 100% find another gig. He is IMO a good GM. But in sport I don't think you get to make that many fvck ups in quick succession without consequences. Ray has paid the price for all of his missteps coming in a 5 month span. Very thoughtful post. Hasn’t thought of it this way. Is the improvement in play an indictment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titans04 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, mikepeluso8 said: even though he's even with Hughes in stats? yeah. Neither lighting it up but Kakko literally has done nothing over the last 20-25 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicomo Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 20 minutes ago, devlman said: Luck or not (Which Nico was not. Lou would’ve drafted Nolan), they were our first round picks those two years. You can’t complain about having a lack of good young players while ignoring the two best ones we have (who btw will be perennial all stars for many years to come). You’re essentially saying, ‘Shero has drafted poorly, look at the passed five years minus two first rounders.’ How is that fair to judge any GM? You know good players can be found after the 1st round right? Hell, look at the team we’re playing right now. Kucherov 2nd round, Point 3rd round, etc I and others have given Shero credit for Bratt, but problem is after that it’s slim pickings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devlman Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Nicomo said: You know good players can be found after the 1st round right? Hell, look at the team we’re playing right now. Kucherov 2nd round, Point 3rd round, etc I and others have given Shero credit for Bratt, but problem is after that it’s slim pickings. Post-first round players tend to take a little longer to develop and again we have some of those guys developing nicely in the minors/juniors. Btw Boqvist looks like he’ll be a nice player, doesn’t he? Edited January 13, 2020 by devlman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikepeluso8 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, titans04 said: yeah. Neither lighting it up but Kakko literally has done nothing over the last 20-25 games. got it. thank you. My parents live in South Seaside Park--my heart is still there--in fact, met my wife there. best to you--anyone from SSP is good in my book! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicomo Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 17 minutes ago, mikepeluso8 said: I don't catch any Ranger games out here in CA. How has Kakko looked this season in relation to Hughes? Curious to hear some insight here... Been fairly invisible the few games I’ve watched. Even when Hughes isn’t scoring he’s at least noticeable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikepeluso8 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Just now, Nicomo said: Been fairly invisible the few games I’ve watched. Even when Hughes isn’t scoring he’s at least noticeable. thx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevsMan84 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, devlman said: Post-first round players tend to take a little longer to develop and again we have some of those guys developing nicely in the minors/juniors. Btw Boqvist looks like he’ll be a nice player, doesn’t he? 4 points in 30 games for Boqvist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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