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Looks like Shero sent Fitzgerald down to the bench to diagnose the problems with team and he came back to the owners and told them the problem is Ray Shero.

I’d believe that 100% to be honest

I'm so sick of hearing about 2015. The end of the 2019-2020 season is a couple of months away. I don't care about 2015. We know it wasn't much, but like I said earlier, I'm focused on 2018. That team

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Just now, SterioDesign said:

Well yeah cause fans like you don't understand this very basic thing. 

expecting anything else is like giving sh!t to your dad for not buying you a ferrari when he works at a cashier at McDonalds. It's just not possible

Oh please. I don’t need you to tell me how much I don’t understand. Literally everyone knows how bad it was when Shero got to NJ (you remind us every other day how could we forget?), but you know what they say about excuses...

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6 minutes ago, MB3 said:

This. Scream it from the rooftops, this this this this this.

shero inherited a bare cupboard. bare is putting it nicely. Look at the roster he was given! LOOK at the absolute hunk of monkey sh!t he was given. 

this was an all time fvck up 

That 14/15 roster put up 78 points.

this 19/20 roster is on pace for about 72 points.

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Just now, DevsMan84 said:

Lol no but like I wrote many others do.

And yes on draft night a couple analysts were comparing JJ to Elias.

But nah let's hope those couple of potential NHL players may turn into a 3rd pairing D-man or bottom 6 forward.

I don’t see how a couple analysts on JJ’s draft night comparing some of his game to Elias’ means Shero’s draft record can’t be viewed with some level of optimism. 

Well good thing we have two franchise centermen to go along with any depth prospects. You can’t ignore the young players currently on the roster when evaluating all the young draft picks. Hell, one of Shero’s sixth round picks from two years ago is on our top line.

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3 minutes ago, SterioDesign said:

yeah and whenever im bringing this up im getting called out like it's a subtle backhand shot at Lou. It isn't.

It's context as to the insane challenge Shero had to take on. I created a whole thread going season per season and the moves shero made with what he had. It was legit impossible to rebuild a better team than what he had at the moment. impossible

I think your window may be wrong. Maybe ownership wasn't looking at what's happened since 2015, and they are instead unhappy with what has happened since 2018. Which is understandable. The build seemed to stall a bit and maybe they were expecting a better team since that playoff run. 

But I still think ownership wanted Laviolette, Shero said no, so they said goodbye

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Just now, DevsMan84 said:

That 14/15 roster put up 78 points.

this 19/20 roster is on pace for about 72 points.

That 14/15 roster had the average age of an AARP member and positively zero future. 

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Just now, Lateralous said:

He probably would have tried to put another bandaid on the roster by signing Marleau to a three year deal 

Being a GM has so much luck involved.

I mean look at Lou now... he took the job in NY... failed to sign their franchise player (not really his fault to be fair but if you look at results... that's what it is).... then let his captain make it to free agency risking to lose him for nothing... that's not a "good decision". Turns out he re-signed cause he wanted to stay there but still a reckless approach. Then the Stanley Cup winning coach decided to take on another challenge... only a few teams needed a coach and he went there.

Now the team is better without tavares somehow. It's really not because of something incredible he did

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Just now, Devil Dan 56 said:

 

But I still think ownership wanted Laviolette, Shero said no, so they said goodbye

I would love Laviolette, but he isn’t gonna come here without a full-time GM in place.

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2 minutes ago, DevsMan84 said:

That 14/15 roster put up 78 points.

this 19/20 roster is on pace for about 72 points.

You can’t be evaluating this season strictly based on points when we are REBUILDING.

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2 minutes ago, Devil Dan 56 said:

I think your window may be wrong. Maybe ownership wasn't looking at what's happened since 2015, and they are instead unhappy with what has happened since 2018. Which is understandable. The build seemed to stall a bit and maybe they were expecting a better team since that playoff run. 

But I still think ownership wanted Laviolette, Shero said no, so they said goodbye

yeah maybe but to be fair this season was the first season where we could maybe consider being competitive. And even then it was a stretch cause most playoffs team stayed the same or got better outside of colombus.. and many teams not in the playoffs also got better.

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2 minutes ago, SterioDesign said:

Being a GM has so much luck involved.

I mean look at Lou now... he took the job in NY... failed to sign their franchise player (not really his fault to be fair but if you look at results... that's what it is).... then let his captain make it to free agency risking to lose him for nothing... that's not a "good decision". Turns out he re-signed cause he wanted to stay there but still a reckless approach. Then the Stanley Cup winning coach decided to take on another challenge... only a few teams needed a coach and he went there.

Now the team is better without tavares somehow. It's really not because of something incredible he did

To be fair, when Trotz was asked "why the Islanders" in an interview, he said "when Lou calls, you answer the phone." It wasn't like he just lucked into him. 

1 minute ago, SterioDesign said:

yeah maybe but to be fair this season was the first season where we could maybe consider being competitive. And even then it was a stretch cause most playoffs team stayed the same or got better outside of colombus.. and many teams not in the playoffs also got better.

Yeah, i still dont think the timing makes sense, which is why I'm guessing there has to be something else. 

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4 minutes ago, DevsMan84 said:

That 14/15 roster put up 78 points.

this 19/20 roster is on pace for about 72 points.

over half that roster is retired now.

Having a young core learning and trending up > having the oldest core in the league, not making the playoffs and trending down.

It's an easy decision

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2 minutes ago, devlman said:

You can’t be evaluating this season strictly based on points when we are REBUILDING.

what should I be using then?  Hopes and maybes like we have been for the past 5 years?

alrighty.

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4 minutes ago, MadDog2020 said:

I would love Laviolette, but he isn’t gonna come here without a full-time GM in place.

It may have just been a final straw. Again this is just speculation by me. Theres no rumors I've read. It just seems strange an hour before a game that there wasn't some sort of catalyst that lead to this happening now and not tomorrow morning. 

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Just now, SterioDesign said:

over half that roster is retired now.

Having a young core learning and trending up > having the oldest core in the league, not making the playoffs and trending down.

It's an easy decision

Trending up!?!?!  We've gotten worse!  And we have been "trending up" since 17/18 but the results don't reflect that.

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1 minute ago, Devil Dan 56 said:

To be fair, when Trotz was asked "why the Islanders" in an interview, he said "when Lou calls, you answer the phone." It wasn't like he just lucked into him. 

Yeah, i still dont think the timing makes sense, which is why I'm guessing there has to be something else. 

Well that's just saying the "right thing" in interviews. Trotz could have stayed with his team. He decided to move on, he wasn't fired. And the islanders needed a coach. That's pretty lucky.

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As I’ve said multiple times I did like Shero, and I wasn’t even close to being ready to replace him, but I do understand why this happened. I’m at the point it didn’t really piss me off. Which is telling. 

I think if you’re being objective you can admit if you take Nico and Hughes out of the picture our future would be looking very grim. Shero did some good things, it just wasn’t quite enough. 

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1 minute ago, DevsMan84 said:

what should I be using then?  Hopes and maybes like we have been for the past 5 years?

alrighty.

The progression of our young players that we are rebuilding around?

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1 minute ago, DevsMan84 said:

Trending up!?!?!  We've gotten worse!  And we have been "trending up" since 17/18 but the results don't reflect that.

our core is averaging 20 years old lol i mean come on now. They are not even in their prime yet

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Just now, Nicomo said:

As I’ve said multiple times I did like Shero, and I wasn’t even close to being ready to replace him, but I do understand why this happened. I’m at the point it didn’t really piss me off. Which is telling. 

I think if you’re being objective you can admit if you take Nico and Hughes out of the picture our future would be looking very grim. Shero did some good things, it just wasn’t quite enough. 

But you can’t take Nico and Hughes out of the equation because then Shero would likely build his roster and core differently

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You can't make a strong case for Shero based on the results but I don't like it. He inherited an abyss of a franchise I felt like he at least had the right strategy in going about the rebuild. Made some excellent trades, some didn't work out. His drafting seems mediocre but I'm concerned about what's next

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1 minute ago, devlman said:

The progression of our young players that we are rebuilding around?

Outside of Hughes and Hischier who has progressed?  Maybe Bratt?

Quite a long list of accomplishments.

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Just now, DevsMan84 said:

Outside of Hughes and Hischier who has progressed?  Maybe Bratt?

Quite a long list of accomplishments.

Three key kids in the NHL progressing should be more than enough, but you can also look at the kids down in Bingo.

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