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You guys value draft picks way too high here. Coleman seems like a perennial twenty goal guy with heart who actually seems to give a damn night in and night out. You don't trade guys like that unless you get one back who's the same.

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I should...now I can see what Ottawa Rob looks like...

Anyone who doesn’t like that deal doesn’t understand hockey in the slightest.  Please turn around and hold up your phone so he can read this lol. 

He's a well-spoken man. I hope we keep him long term.

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10 minutes ago, Rob_Ottawa said:

You guys value draft picks way too high here. Coleman seems like a perennial twenty goal guy with heart who actually seems to give a damn night and night out. You don't trade guys like that unless you get one back who's the same.

Why would you trade someone for the exact same thing? Foote is 19 and could have many 20 goal seasons 

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19 minutes ago, Rob_Ottawa said:

You guys value draft picks way too high here. Coleman seems like a perennial twenty goal guy with heart who actually seems to give a damn night in and night out. You don't trade guys like that unless you get one back who's the same.

He had 20 this year, he may have 20 next year, and then he was going to leave in free agency. Why not trade him while he has the extra year at $1.8m? That’s why you got the extra asset for him. You probably get one or the other and maybe neither if he was a rental on an expiring contract. 

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36 minutes ago, Rob_Ottawa said:

You guys value draft picks way too high here. Coleman seems like a perennial twenty goal guy with heart who actually seems to give a damn night in and night out. You don't trade guys like that unless you get one back who's the same.

Except having Coleman scoring 20 goals a season on an average team won't make us a contender. And we'll likely waste a few of his prime years. I LOVED his work ethic but we need to understand that our future success has to go through Nico and Jack. Surrounding them with young talent is the only way. We won't sign many top free agents in the future so we have to build through the draft. This is truly the only way.

 

 

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48 minutes ago, jagknife said:

Can you transcribe or summarize? Center Ice cut off after the 3 stars

Weird im also watching off center ice but it went for quite awhile

oh well he talked for quite awhile but what stuck out to me is when he said something like (extreme paraphrasing here) "we got the call inquiring for Blake and the offers just kept on getting better to the point we had to really consider and make a decision. And well the situation is that we had a chance to add some good assets and young guys while we dont know in 2 years what Blake would want to do, he could have very well walk, it's perfectly his right so we simply had to make a decision"

he said he knew it wasnt a popular move, he was a player once and went through it bla bla bla he also said that it's not as much as a step back as it seem, there's chances that we use those picks to get the next Kyle Palmieri, mojo etc etc like we did years ago.

And often said that all of this is happening because this seaosn didnt go the way nobody thought it would so they changed that.

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2 hours ago, Rob_Ottawa said:

You guys value draft picks way too high here. Coleman seems like a perennial twenty goal guy with heart who actually seems to give a damn night in and night out. You don't trade guys like that unless you get one back who's the same.

This is a dopey take because why exactly would a team that already has a player like Coleman trade him for...Coleman?

I hate to see him go and he was one of those players that I would’ve loved to have seen survive these lean years...but all things considered, Fitz managed a very nice return here.  SD is right, in that this is really how the Devils have to do business...this is not a prime UFA destination, where the Panarins of the world will flock to.  They’ve gotta do their building through trades and from within (and taking advantage when a team is willing to give to get, like the Lightning just were) and when they draft a young player who later becomes a solid piece, sign him to a reasonable long-term contract.

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So high chance of having three draft picks in the first round this year. Assured to have 4 firsts in the next 2 drafts (NJ 2020, 2021, ARZ pick and VAN pick), unless we trade. This is solid. It also gives us a possibility to trade for an impact player like we did with Palms and MoJo if we end up not drafting with every pick.

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43 minutes ago, SterioDesign said:

Weird im also watching off center ice but it went for quite awhile

oh well he talked for quite awhile but what stuck out to me is when he said something like (extreme paraphrasing here) "we got the call inquiring for Blake and the offers just kept on getting better to the point we had to really consider and make a decision. And well the situation is that we had a chance to add some good assets and young guys while we dont know in 2 years what Blake would want to do, he could have very well walk, it's perfectly his right so we simply had to make a decision"

he said he knew it wasnt a popular move, he was a player once and went through it bla bla bla he also said that it's not as much as a step back as it seem, there's chances that we use those picks to get the next Kyle Palmieri, mojo etc etc like we did years ago.

And often said that all of this is happening because this seaosn didnt go the way nobody thought it would so they changed that.

Thanks buddy. Appreciate it.

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It was a good trade.  Foote fits in to what the organization needs, which is a young winger who can shoot.  Hopefully the first ends up being a first rounder this year and is in the 16-20 range.  

This is much better than the deal I feared we would get from Boston which would be a first that would likely be below 25 and Beecher, who will be a bottom 6 grinder that will be in college for at least another 2 years.

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3 hours ago, Devs3cups said:

If Coleman fetched that return, I wonder what Palms could...

If they were to move Palms after moving Coleman they're going to be desperate for goals. Their leading scorer would be Nico with a whopping 13 followed by not much else. Combine that with hot garbage on D and this rebuild is going to take a while longer. 

Anybody remember the owners saying we weren't winning enough at this time? Seems to possibly be a disconnect there. I'm not saying the moves are bad but it contradicts the winning now statement. 

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7 minutes ago, titans04 said:

If they were to move Palms after moving Coleman they're going to be desperate for goals. Their leading scorer would be Nico with a whopping 13 followed by not much else. Combine that with hot garbage on D and this rebuild is going to take a while longer. 

Anybody remember the owners saying we weren't winning enough at this time? Seems to possibly be a disconnect there. I'm not saying the moves are bad but it contradicts the winning now statement. 

Oh yeah, not saying we should trade Palms, just wondering what the return would be considering the return we got here.

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