DevsMan84 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, NJDevils1214 said: Hockey is a team sport, but yea lets place the blame on the doorstep if the 18 year old kid that people hyped up expectations for on a team of failures. Hes a fvcking bust. Everyone go home. Getting 30 points in a season as the first overall pick is setting high expectations? OK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 (edited) Vats to the Hurricanes? Waiting to see the return Edited February 24, 2020 by SterioDesign Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pumpkin cutter Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 And we’re done with out trade deadline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevsMan84 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, NJDevils1214 said: How well do you expect players to develop when they win 15 games a year? Palms is one of our only goal scorers. Losing 90% of games like Detroit does nothing for their development. It turns us into Edmonton without McDavid. Players get better when they win. Colorado has a historically terrible season 3 seasons ago. They are now one of the favorites in the West. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satans Hockey Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 I'm glad to see tissue paper soft Sami go 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devs3cups Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 Hughes will be fine, guys. Waiting to see the return for Vats. They have a 1st and a 2nd. We're likely getting one of those. Maybe a prospect? Let's see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevsMan84 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said: The bolded is where I think you're going off the rails. You have Palms as somehow being guilty by association because he played on some bad teams while Shero was the GM. That somehow keeping him around will taint the "new order" (however the team comes together under Fitz...another GM getting the job just seems like it would be a shock at this point). I just can't agree with that take. There's plenty of other guys you can move on from, and we've already seen some of that (Hall, Greene, Coleman (somewhat painfully in Blake's case, but it was for a hell for a return), and now Simmonds). I don't think EVERY single guy's gotta go because he has ties to Shero. EDIT: And now Vats apparently, to Carolina. His 30 goals a season didn't move the needle in his 5 seasons here. Arguably, the only thing that did move the needle was Hall having a Hart trophy winning season and KK playing out of his mind for 40 games. Why do you want to keep a player around so badly for years to come when we aren't going to be good during those years? Why is he so important? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 Just now, Satans Hockey said: I'm glad to see tissue paper soft Sami go I was originally on board with Vats staying, but I'm fine with him going now. Curious to see how high the pick is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundstrom Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 this trade palmieri for anything nonsense has to stop. he is worth more to the devils than just about anyone else. I would require a good 1st + your team's 2nd or 3rd best NHL ready prospect to consider it and it's still a step back. and it's not about his "leadership" even though there is that. some people talk about 25-30 goals and 50+ points like it's easily replaceable. news flash - it is NOT. not only wouldn't I trade him, i would extend him after next year for 5 x 6.5 w/o hesitation. this is not a guy that's going to fall off a cliff. he's proven remarkable consistent (if not a little streaky with how the points come). he is a link to NJ which doesn't mean nothing. he is a fan favorite which, when you're trying to get people in the seats, means a ton. look - the devils do seem a long way away from contending. but consider this. if goalies not named blackwood were 10-12-0 instead of 3-15-3 the devils are two points out of the playoffs. and that's with them dealing away taylor hall early and getting nothing from hughes. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevsMan84 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 At least Vats got traded. Thank god. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satans Hockey Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 I don't get the point in flipping out one way or the other about Palms. I'm sure they would have traded him for the right price and I'd have been fine with that. I'm just assuming a bunch of low ball offers came in and I'd rather keep Palms than make a weak value trade. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 i can't imagine we're getting a first for months of an injured vatanen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guadana Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 We need in scorer. Palms is 7th rw scorer last 5 year. We dont have enough mathematic chances to pick better option. It must be top prospect or resign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titans04 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 (edited) Bless Palms little heart if he signs an extension rather than running out his contract next year. I think he would certainly consider other options if it gets close to it becoming a reality. As a result they maybe forced to trade him at the deadline next year. Edited February 24, 2020 by titans04 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 i'm hoping for Jake Bean maybe? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil Dan 56 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 4 minutes ago, DevsMan84 said: His 30 goals a season didn't move the needle in his 5 seasons here. Arguably, the only thing that did move the needle was Hall having a Hart trophy winning season and KK playing out of his mind for 40 games. Why do you want to keep a player around so badly for years to come when we aren't going to be good during those years? Why is he so important? And why do you want to trade a good player for nothing just to "tear it down"? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobilly45 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 And another trade deadline passes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilsfan118 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 Snap I'm excited to see the return for Vats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 Just now, DevsMan84 said: His 30 goals a season didn't move the needle in his 5 seasons here. Arguably, the only thing that did move the needle was Hall having a Hart trophy winning season and KK playing out of his mind for 40 games. Why do you want to keep a player around so badly for years to come when we aren't going to be good during those years? Why is he so important? When you get bottom-of-the-league goaltending (and the Devils have certainly gotten their share of that lately), kinda hard for anyone to move the needle much. The Devils are getting goaltending now, and Palms has 23 points in his last 26 GP. I've already explained...I think this is a guy who can be a piece as this team retools. Sundstrom's post above is a good one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevsMan84 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 Just now, Devil Dan 56 said: And why do you want to trade a good player for nothing just to "tear it down"? lol you all are assuming I want a 3rd rounder and B prospect. Palms would get more than that for sure. But keeping him at any cost for the sake of keeping him is insane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Fansinz88 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 Have to realize free agents don’t want to sign here. Way to build team and get talent is via trade and trading palmieri gets you more than just him at 30 years of age to build with. He’s not going anyway. At least Vatanen was dealt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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pumpkin cutter Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 I’d be surprised if they gave us a 2nd. Hopefully Sami gets healthy soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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