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Trade Deadline Thread Monday, Feb. 24. Time: 3 p.m. ET


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2 minutes ago, PacificDevil said:

In retrospect Henrique-Vats trade bad one for Shero 

i do not agree with this at all. the devils don't make the playoffs in '17/'18 w/o vatanen.

and henrique was never a play driver and would just be another middling guy making close to $6MM for the next 4 years for about 45 points a year.

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13 minutes ago, Satans Hockey said:

Apparently markstrom has a torn meniscus, that explains why they wanted domingue. We should have given them Cory back lol

We retain his entire salary and use our cap space to pay for 3-4 of their other guys in exchange for them taking Cory. 

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10 minutes ago, NJDevs4978 said:

Would you even want to re-sign him at this point?  He's played 50 games and 47 (probably around 55-60 IF he comes back soon and stays in the lineup) the last two years and always misses time.

Personally? Nope. He's not going to be worth what he is asking for in free agency to play 50 games a season. I like him when he's healthy, but he's frequently not healthy. 

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51 minutes ago, SterioDesign said:

ah well sh!t

 

Ewwwwwwwww- saw 4 Checkers games earlier this season.  Kuokkanen  played in them apparently. Hopefully a change of scenery helps. I would think his NHL ceiling is on the lower side so he should fit in seamlessly.

Claesson plays with some grit and is a pretty solid AHL dman or spare NHL dman.

All that said I'm fine with launching Sami outta here, I doubt there was much of a chance of him resigning here.

 

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1 hour ago, Nicomo said:

@CommonDreads

Thoughts on Kuokkanen?

He's been a really good AHL forward for a few years now and he's someone I was high on in his draft year, really smart attacker than can both finish and set up plays but I think he's more effective as a playmaker because of his smarts. Biggest obstacle is playing with more pace, I don't necessarily think he's a bad skater but it seems like he excels more when he's able to slow the play down, so the quicker pace of the NHL has been a bit more difficult of a transition for him.

All-in-all, though, he's a good multi-tool player who I think could develop into a good 3rd line winger. I'd like to see him get a look to end the season, but at the very least he'll be a strong addition for Bingo for their playoff run if they decide to keep him in the AHL for the rest of the season.

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TRADE DEADLINE ''ACTIVITY'' RECAP (Counting Hall trade)

 

ADDITIONS:

 

F Nolan Foote

F Janne Kuokkanen

D Kevin Bahl

F Nick Merkley

G Zane McIntyre

F Nate Schnarr

D David Quenneville 

2020 1st Round Pick Conditional (ARZ)

2020 1st Round Pick Conditional (VAN)

2021 2nd Round Pick (NYI)

2021 3rd Round Pick Conditional (ARZ)

2021 5th Round Pick Conditional (BUF)

Whatever Pick* (CAR)

 

SUBSTRACTIONS: 

F Taylor Hall

F Blake Coleman

D Sami Vatanen

D Andy Greene

F Wayne Simmonds

G Louis Domingue

 

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The return for Vatanen really isn't that bad. If we were on the other end of the trade, I would be nervous to give up a decent prospect for a pending UFA who has been injured for a month. If Vatanen had been healthy, that's a different story. This one isn't on Fitzgerald, it's just bad timing. From what little I know of Kuokkanen, he seems to have a playing style that will keep up with the direction the team is headed.

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44 minutes ago, NJDevs4978 said:

It got us in the playoffs in 2018...Vat > Henrique then.  Not really anyone's fault Vat got cheap-shotted in the playoffs and hasn't been able to stay healthy since.

Heck less than a year ago we were all penciling in Hall and Vat as part of the next 5-6 years.  Life comes at you fast (sigh)

We don’t know what would happened playoff-wise with Henrique instead of Vats in full 2017-18 season. Devils had a great record by end of Nov. ‘17

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23 minutes ago, nessus said:

The return for Vatanen really isn't that bad. If we were on the other end of the trade, I would be nervous to give up a decent prospect for a pending UFA who has been injured for a month. If Vatanen had been healthy, that's a different story. This one isn't on Fitzgerald, it's just bad timing. From what little I know of Kuokkanen, he seems to have a playing style that will keep up with the direction the team is headed.

Let’s see what happens. What a fun place 10 games for the rest of the year and misses the entire playoffs with injury? Is the return bad then?

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Market wasn't great for Devils players. Fitz basically got the minimum return on all three players traded today. Domingue was shipped out the door for a possibly even worse goalie, but who cares I suppose? Simmonds gone for a likely 5th rounder and Vatanen gone for a fourth round pick and potential bottom-6 NHL forward. Meh. If Vatanen is out another month, that return will make a lot more sense. Hopefully the games played requirement for the pick to turn into a 3rd is fairly reasonable.

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1 hour ago, CommonDreads said:

Out of all of Charlotte's forwards, Kuokkanen would have been my pick out of that lot to get in a trade, so we got Carolina's best AHL forward prospect.

Overall, I would have much rather had Patrik Puistola or Tuukka Tieksola, but very possible Carolina wasn't willing to give those guys up.

I would of preferred Julien Gauthier to Kuokkanen based on his ability to put the puck in the net at a much higher rate, too bad he was already dealt. We already have too many pass first guys and not enough guys who can finish.

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39 minutes ago, sundstrom said:

Vats conditions:

 

 

i actually would like to think that as long as carolina makes the playoffs, it's a 3rd.

The stipulation is exactly what it should be. Basically, if Vatanen is healthy by the playoffs [and Carolina makes it in] the Devils get a third round pick. There was a point this year that Vatanen probably could have netted a top team's first round pick but alas, Kuokkanen is player that will, at least by next year, get a shot at a bottom six role in the NHL.

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if the Coleman trade was a hole-in-one, the combination of the Vatanen and Simmonds trade is silicing your drive 140 yards onto the wrong fairway, banking it off of a golf cart, and accidentally killing the course’s favorite alligator. 

unless it comes out that Vatanen had a serious injury and might not play, i’m upset. 

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