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7 minutes ago, Satans Hockey said:

I feel like I'm a rather skeptical person but I just don't see how can anyone look at what's happening in Italy and the USA shutting down all these giant money making festivals, concerts, conventions, and sporting events for absolutely no reason. This virus is clearly more serious than the average flu.

Why would we really be doing this? Destroying so many industries and businesses just to get people to panic? What's the end game then? It doesn't make any sense. 

No company wants to be liable or blamed for anyone’s death. So they all follow suit.

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2 minutes ago, MB3 said:

Did you just pick out “St Patrick’s Day Parade” and ignore the fact that AN ENTIRE FVCKING FIRST WORLD COUNTRY IS CURRENTLY ON LOCK DOWN YOU ABSOLUTE CRAYON EATING BUFFOON.

Calm down, man-child. If you can’t have a conversation without your estrogen levels flaring up then stay out of it. In just another thread you complained about lack of moderation of posts. Quite ironic.

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The reasons why COVID-19 is considered more serious than the flu (which itself can be dangerous) are 1) COVID-19 is a new virus strain that is relatively unknown and 2) it has had an unusually high severity/death rate for those infected compared to the flu.  Now the fatality rate at face value is low, from what I've seen 3%, but a 3% fatality rate for anything is an extremely high fatality rate.  Auto racing, which considered probably the most dangerous sport that has wide participation, has much lower than a 3% fatality rate.

Getting back to the NHL (and for that matter the AHL and ECHL), I think it is likely we will see an announcement about games played at empty arenas or suspending the season in the next 1-2 days.

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4 minutes ago, NJDevs4978 said:

Not a mere parade, Ireland shut down all of their St. Patrick's Day celebrations.  That's like us shutting down the fourth of July.

SH's post above yours put it better than I ever could.  Billion dollar industries aren't shutting down as part of a hoax or because of the damn media, the media's such an easy scapegoat for everything.  Health organizations around the world aren't parroting the 'this is just the flu' talking point, they're telling people to be on high alert.

As people should be on high alert. Does shutting down every event, organization, and gathering mean high alert or overreaction?

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2 minutes ago, devlman said:

No company wants to be liable or blamed for anyone’s death. So they all follow suit.

With the lawyers they can afford I highly doubt they would be held liable to begin with.

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Just now, devlman said:

As people should be on high alert. Does shutting down every event, organization, and gathering mean high alert or overreaction?

It's done to prevent the virus from spreading faster and overloading hospitals that can't handle that many people. Why put that many people together when it's just entertainment? 

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1 minute ago, Satans Hockey said:

With the lawyers they can afford I highly doubt they would be held liable to begin with.

Maybe not legally but in the court of public opinion/perception...

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3 minutes ago, Satans Hockey said:

It's done to prevent the virus from spreading faster and overloading hospitals that can't handle that many people. Why put that many people together when it's just entertainment? 

That’s a valid point but there’s no evidence that suggests it’s more contagious than the flu or requires more hospitalization than seasonal flu would. 

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13 minutes ago, devlman said:

Sorry but a st Patrick’s day parade being shut down is not a barometer for determining potency of a virus. Don’t just pick out headlines to conclude that it could become more fatal than the flu. We have actual facts and figures to tell you the opposite.

What are these actual facts and figures? And *please* don't tell me raw death totals; it's not a fair comparison considering way more people have been diagnosed with the flu than corona.

From every estimate and figure I've seen, conoravirus is carrying a mortality rate of 2.5% to 3.5%, while the flu every year carries a mortality rate of less than 1%. More important than anything though, this is the most easily transmittable novel virus we've seen in North America, which is scary when you combine that with the fact it has absolutely no vaccine and is carrying a mortality rate of ~14% for the elderly.

It's not trivial to take this seriously, we all know people that are more susceptible to succumbing to this virus than ourselves. Just because I'm a 25 year old dude who would probably be fine doesn't mean I can't fear for transmitting it to my fiance's father who has cancer or my 65 year old parents.

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It’s absolutely not trivial. No one is suggesting it’s not. But the reported death rate is likely inflated due to it being a new virus and people not knowing they have it versus the flu or even wanting to avoid being quarantined. For seniors though I agree it is seemingly more concerning.

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It's all psychological. You yell influenza, everybody says, "Huh? What?" You yell coronavirus.... we've got a panic on our hands on the Fourth of July.

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8 hours ago, MB3 said:

Even if you’re not in the target age range, attitudes like this could cause irreparable and unnecessary harm. Try to pretend that you’re not the smartest guy you’ve ever met for ten seconds and read this. 

http://news.originalgreen.org/#/

 

7 hours ago, MB3 said:

Did you just pick out “St Patrick’s Day Parade” and ignore the fact that AN ENTIRE FVCKING FIRST WORLD COUNTRY IS CURRENTLY ON LOCK DOWN YOU ABSOLUTE CRAYON EATING BUFFOON.

Honestly, you are the biggest a$$hole I have ever encountered in my life. Anyone who disagrees with you is an idiot. Fvcking entitled jerkoff. 

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This does need to be treated seriously but at the same time panic doesn't help anyone. 

The current mortality rate for Covid-19 is  4% for known reported cases , seasonal influenza mortality rate is 0.1% and global influenza deaths fluctuate between 2-4% annually. These are all readily available WHO figures. And just remember 4% of the American population is 13.5 million people. 

That being said there isn't any need for panic. Sensible measures like regular hand washing and self isolation if you have symptoms can stop the spread.

It is true that the vast majority of people who get this won't die, they might not even become remotely ill , but it's times like this we really need to stop and think of those who are vulnerable, the elderly, those with underlying health conditions or low immune systems and put those people first. 

Let's try not to think of the 4868 people who have died from this as just numbers, but as relatives , friends and random people on a message board we for some reason have an affinity for (even though most of us can be complete arseholes when the team sucks) that we won't see again. Think of people you know who have had , or are going through chemo and say to yourself "is their life worth not cancelling a few sports events?". 

Personally I think it's an easy choice. ESPECIALLY given the season this team is having. 

So wash your hands regularly, stay home if you feel ill and be sensible. 

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If the NBA suspended their season, I can't imagine the NHL is far behind.

Especially considering how bugs make their way through locker rooms.

Probably for the best.

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I live in Italy.  First few athletes here tested positive.  Doesn't look good for Serie A or the UEFA Champions League either.  Never thought I would see something like this in my lifetime. 

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1 minute ago, Mitico12 said:

I live in Italy.  First few athletes here tested positive.  Doesn't look good for Serie A or the UEFA Champions League either.  Never thought I would see something like this in my lifetime. 

Didn’t Christiano’s teammate test positive?

The coach for the Nebraska men’s b-ball team was clearly sick with SOMETHING last night while coaching on the sidelines. Turned out it was just the flu. But talk about being incredibly irresponsible to try and coach while sick like that, regardless of what it was, but he looked atrocious from the videos I’ve seen.

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54 minutes ago, Devilsfan118 said:

If the NBA suspended their season, I can't imagine the NHL is far behind.

Especially considering how bugs make their way through locker rooms.

Probably for the best.

If they somehow play tonight I think at the very least there won't be any fans in the building. Maybe they are gonna see how long they can go playing games like this and try to finish the regular season and hope that they can open up the arenas when the playoffs start.

If one player ends up testing positive that will be the end of that though.

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51 minutes ago, jagknife said:

Didn’t Christiano’s teammate test positive?

The coach for the Nebraska men’s b-ball team was clearly sick with SOMETHING last night while coaching on the sidelines. Turned out it was just the flu. But talk about being incredibly irresponsible to try and coach while sick like that, regardless of what it was, but he looked atrocious from the videos I’ve seen.

Just saw the videos from that....shows how little faith he has in his assistant coaches that he wouldn't sit out a game or two to get some rest and get better quicker and also not get others sick. The sporting director of that school should have stepped in and made him sit out too. 

We have had a bad problem in this country for years now with this work while sick mentality. Way too many people do it all the time because they don't have(or feel like they have) any other choice.

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59 minutes ago, Mitico12 said:

I live in Italy.  First few athletes here tested positive.  Doesn't look good for Serie A or the UEFA Champions League either.  Never thought I would see something like this in my lifetime. 

Hope you stay well man. 

Looks like it's either going to be behind closed doors or for Serie A teams no games at all. 

58 minutes ago, jagknife said:

Didn’t Christiano’s teammate test positive?

Daniel Rugani. Yep. 

Tom Hanks as well now. 

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NHL will most likely announce suspension of the season sometime later today. 

 

The season will be suspended indefinitely, and coronavirus will be fined $9,498, the maximum allowable under the CBA

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