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3 hours ago, Satans Hockey said:

Probably do an entirely new lotto show where everyone gets a shot but the entire thing is weighted on point percentage or whatever. 

Pretty sure Friedman said if they can’t finish the season, the eight play-in teams would have their own lottery for the pick.

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28 minutes ago, MadDog2020 said:

Pretty sure Friedman said if they can’t finish the season, the eight play-in teams would have their own lottery for the pick.

Makes more sense than re-doing the entire lottery. 

Maybe if they can't finish the season they should do a lottery to see who gets the Stanley Cup too. And also fvck Doug Wilson, we're doing a HOF lottery too. 

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46 minutes ago, MadDog2020 said:

Doesn't it seem like double talk? Culture demands a toughness that promotes playing injured or not opting out whatever, yet they can't be tough enough to stick to their guns and opt out if they feel it is unsafe or don't want to return to play? 

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Never read Deadspin, so hard for me to agree with the whole tearing up hockey culture aspect. Always a few jerks in every group, but overwhelmingly still seems to me the hockey culture is far above the other 3 major sports.

Anyway, the players should be telling donald fehr the way they really feel. Not to the reporter anonymously.  

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2 hours ago, NJDevils1214 said:

Doesn't it seem like double talk? Culture demands a toughness that promotes playing injured or not opting out whatever, yet they can't be tough enough to stick to their guns and opt out if they feel it is unsafe or don't want to return to play? 

Yeah if guys don’t feel safe, they need to speak up. If it upsets your teammates, tough sh!t. It’s literally a life and death situation. And how about guys who are high risk like Max Domi, Kakko (both diabetics), or guys like Brian Boyle or Oskar Lindblom? Those guys shouldn’t even be thinking about playing hockey right now.

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Also, Happy Canada Day to our neighbors to the North!

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Man how great would it be if we came out of this awful COVID era with a fresh CBA in hand, guaranteeing another lockout isn't gonna happen?

That'd be a real silver lining.

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Rick Dudley is  retiring from Canes. I wondered if he could be like Scotty Bowman,  a 'consultant" for NJD's? The guy's had a ton of success. He is however 71, but I heard today (XM radio) guy can still bench press mad weights. Maybe he's just tired,  and walking away altogether. 

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2 hours ago, jagknife said:

https://www.tsn.ca/talent/details-emerge-on-expected-new-nhl-agreement-1.1492091
 

Details of the new CBA which guarantees labor peace through 24-25 (unless I just misquoted, high probability I did)

With the cap remaining static it's good news for teams that currently have space (like the Devils) but teams that are up against it will be in trouble. There will be a few more players not getting re-signed by their clubs and maybe a few more trades possible now. I also read somewhere (so could be complete BS) that there won't be any compliance buy outs this season. I guess that means that Cory will be staying around for a least another season.

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Labor peace reached through 25-26.

Play-in rounds begin 1 August.

EDIT: BOG and players still need to vote

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Devils-Edmonton from November 1,1989 is on MSG+ right now. Love watching these old games. I was in 5th grade back then, and this was probably a 9:30 start, so there’s no way I would’ve been allowed to stay up for this one lol.

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1 hour ago, MadDog2020 said:

Devils-Edmonton from November 1,1989 is on MSG+ right now. Love watching these old games. I was in 5th grade back then, and this was probably a 9:30 start, so there’s no way I would’ve been allowed to stay up for this one lol.

I was 4, my knowledge of hockey back then was the far guy, skinny guy and normal guy on NES. Didn’t even know about Blades of Steel.

My real taste was NHLPA 93 for SNES. We still had the Christmas trees then too

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10 hours ago, MadDog2020 said:

Devils-Edmonton from November 1,1989 is on MSG+ right now. Love watching these old games. I was in 5th grade back then, and this was probably a 9:30 start, so there’s no way I would’ve been allowed to stay up for this one lol.

I was 19 and in college...in the thick of pledging a fraternity.  This game wound up being the second-to-last of Jim Schoenfeld’s coaching career with the Devils...after a 7-3 loss to the Flames that knocked the Devils down to 6-6-2, Lou fired him and replaced him with John Cunniff.  I remember Schoenfeld being quite stunned by the news...and Lou being concerned by the Devils’ slow start in home games that season.

Was a weird season, that in some ways mirrored 1987-88...they didn’t get off to as good of a start, but a mid-season slump threatened to derail things until a season-closing surge saved their year.  Unfortunately no Cinderella run (they were bounced in six games in the first round by the Caps).  Loved when Lou dealt Turgeon for Lemieux...Turgeon had his moments, but you could tell the guy had “loser” written all over him.  Was also the beginning of Terreri thoroughly outplaying Burke.

 

And on a side note, poor Aaron Broten.  He'd been a decent Devil through the leaner years, but was playing poorly enough that Lou decided it was finally time to move on from him during that 1989-90 season, dealing him to the North Stars for Bob Brooke...I kinda remember Brooke's debut coming in that Russian Super Series game (against Dynamo Moscow, in January 1990...my dad took me to the game as a X-mas present.  Devils won 7-1...Myshkin (who had replaced Tretiak in the Miracle On Ice game) was the starting goalie for Dynamo.  Dynamo had pretty cool jerseys...a rich blue with a script "D" on the front, with the straight part of the "D" formed by a sword).  But after having spent several seasons as a Rocky and Devil (581 games with the franchise), Broten couldn't find a home...he went from the North Stars to the Nordiques to the Maple Leafs to the Jets, never playing more than 35 games with any of his new teams.  Apparently he was quite upset about this after a while, especially when the Nordiques traded him...he simply felt completely unwanted.  He retired pretty early (Age 31 season), but all in all, had a pretty good career for a former 6th round (102nd overall) pick.  

And looking back on it, I remember Schoenfeld being stunned AND plenty pissed about being canned...I got the impression that he didn't think he was on such a short leash (even though the Devils has struggled during his first full season, in 1988-89) and pointed out that though the Devils were indeed off to a slow start at home, they had won their first four road games in 1989 under his watch.  It wasn't looking like it was going to get much better under Cunniff, until the very end of the season.  The 1989-90 Devils were that classic .500-ish "tease" kind of team...they'd have moments where you would think that they might be able to do a little something (they could score some, though they were only middle-of-the-pack offensively), but others where they'd look kinda hopeless.  Both Fetisov and Kasatonov (he joined the team in January) admitted that they weren't used to being a part of teams that would get caught in extended funks, and that at times it was frustrating to deal with. 

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I was 1 and I didn’t even know hockey exist. After a couple of years I already knew about Russian five, but it took me another couple of years to get to know Stevens.

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Real reason he was fired was because he benched Fetisov, who deserved it. Lou no like.

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23 hours ago, eldon said:

Real reason he was fired was because he benched Fetisov, who deserved it. Lou no like.

Definitely was a factor, but I think Lou also thought that whatever magic Schoenfeld had in leading the Devils to the 1988 Wales Conference Finals had run out:

https://nypost.com/2015/01/24/from-ussr-best-buds-to-nhl-enemies-how-politics-divided-2-ex-devils/

Some good stuff there from Fetisov and Schoenfeld.  

 

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Posted (edited)

I know some NFL teams have been offering the option to skip next season for season ticket holders but this is the first one I believe to flat out just say everyone is getting deffered. In any fans are allowed in its only going to be 14k or less... 

https://www.baltimoreravens.com/news/2020-ravens-season-tickets-to-be-deferred

I think this will definitely lead to the NHL having to do something similar next season. 

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Dec 1 - likely a wishful thinking. But a target because I think that month is usually pretty good for crowds post-college football, kids are home from school (if they are even at school). 

But hey why not, less than 5 months to hockey!

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5 minutes ago, HellOnICE said:

Dec 1 - likely a wishful thinking. But a target because I think that month is usually pretty good for crowds post-college football, kids are home from school (if they are even at school). 

But hey why not, less than 5 months to hockey!

I think having normal sized crowds is more wishful thinking than having the season be played but definitely going to be interesting. Personally I'm just hoping for a defferrment to the next season so I don't have to battle with the front office to get it. 

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Even with social disntancing, crowds who are expunging air droplets inside of a building, cheering for their team and stuff - just seems super rough.

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