NJDfan1711 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 1 minute ago, jagknife said: So I'm gonna go out on a limb and say you meant to post a different picture, cause every single player on that list, minus one big-foreheaded exception, all signed last summer... for the deals listed.... Oh, weird. I just did a quick Google search and I thought it said it was this year's upcoming UFAs. Guess it was last year's. Even still, the point remains, as I don't think Vegas is any more of an attraction destination this year than it would have been last year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimaira_Devil_#9 Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 (edited) The athletic have done a Mock Expansion draft following moves at the deadline. This is the protected list they suggested for the Devil's. Just to note Merkley and Bastian would also be on that potentially available list. The two writers did a draft each, one had Seattle taking Andreas Johnnson and the other Will Butcher. They said that the stats department might be tempted by Johnnson , so anyone who has said advance stats don't have a place in hockey they could help us get rid of that absolute anchor. My only change on the protected list might be to switch PK for Murray. We could get lucky and remove that contract from the books. Although I will say that I feel PK had actually been much better this year. Edited April 29, 2021 by Chimaira_Devil_#9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicomo Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 I love that I don’t want to lose a single one of those protected forwards. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerzey Posted April 29, 2021 Author Share Posted April 29, 2021 I think I’d rather protect Bastian over Kuokonnen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 I don’t like the idea of losing Bastian. Like, at all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 11 minutes ago, MadDog2020 said: I don’t like the idea of losing Bastian. Like, at all. Agree. Has he been good enough to make himself a target over Johnsson and Butcher? Probably so. The concept that Seattle will take one of those two or PK sounds amazing, but I don’t see why they’d choose to do that. Johnsson is coming off a bust of a year, Butcher barely played in the NHL, and PK costs a fortune and returns very little on that investment. Maybe there will be cap concerns that make PK desirable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimaira_Devil_#9 Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 49 minutes ago, Jerzey said: I think I’d rather protect Bastian over Kuokonnen. Hmmm I like Bastian, but Kuokkanen has 22 points mostly at Even strength. Cannot see any way that Bastian would be favoured over him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, Chimaira_Devil_#9 said: Hmmm I like Bastian, but Kuokkanen has 22 points mostly at Even strength. Cannot see any way that Bastian would be favoured over him. I don’t want to lose either of those guys. In an ideal world, both are protected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimaira_Devil_#9 Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 Just now, MadDog2020 said: I don’t want to lose either of those guys. In an ideal world, both are protected. You could go 8 skaters and expose all of our D men. But Severson is gone then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 37 minutes ago, Chimaira_Devil_#9 said: You could go 8 skaters and expose all of our D men. But Severson is gone then. I’m not a big fan of his, but we’re so thin on defense we can’t even take that risk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevsMan84 Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 Johnsson had a bad year for sure, but I wonder if it is just a this season thing or he just plain sucks. I'd rather them take Butcher as I have seen enough of him to know he sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 14 minutes ago, DevsMan84 said: Johnsson had a bad year for sure, but I wonder if it is just a this season thing or he just plain sucks. I'd rather them take Butcher as I have seen enough of him to know he sucks. My only hesitation in that plan is having zero people to take his spot. Our defense is so bad that Will Butcher has a spot... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 28 minutes ago, DevsMan84 said: Johnsson had a bad year for sure, but I wonder if it is just a this season thing or he just plain sucks. I'd rather them take Butcher as I have seen enough of him to know he sucks. Butcher's a little like a NFL backup QB at this point...when someone else isn't playing well in front of him, you wonder why the backup isn't getting a shot. After a few games, you're reminded why. He's not making a ton and has one year left on his deal...someone who hasn't seen all of his games the past couple of seasons will take a flyer. I have a feeling the Devils would love to give him one more shot though...not the end of the world necessarily, and like mfitz said, not like the Devils are loaded with D-depth...but at the same time, I hate when guys who appear less and less to be a part of the solution just get to keep hanging around. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicomo Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 14 minutes ago, mfitz804 said: My only hesitation in that plan is having zero people to take his spot. Our defense is so bad that Will Butcher has a spot... Reilly Walsh basically sounds like a better skating version of Butcher to me, so he could probably fill that role (sheltered 3rd pair mins, PP2, etc). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 2 hours ago, Chimaira_Devil_#9 said: You could go 8 skaters and expose all of our D men. But Severson is gone then. I’d almost rather do that lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crisis Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 Can't understand the notion of exposing PK. The Devils don't have cap issues, other than maybe trying to hit the floor. There is one more year left on that contract and he plays the most minutes out of the whole D corps. And if the Devils don't want to extend him, they retain half and trade him to a contender at the deadline. I feel like he is a much more valuable asset than Will Butcher. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 7 minutes ago, Crisis said: Can't understand the notion of exposing PK. The Devils don't have cap issues, other than maybe trying to hit the floor. There is one more year left on that contract and he plays the most minutes out of the whole D corps. And if the Devils don't want to extend him, they retain half and trade him to a contender at the deadline. I feel like he is a much more valuable asset than Will Butcher. You’re probably right. And you know they wouldn’t use that $9m for anything anyway, so what’s the point of saving it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 Anyone else wishing we still had Quenneville so he could be “exposed”, just for the memes. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max20Characters Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 (edited) It makes so much sense to me to leave PK exposed. Either they take him off our hands, or they don't because he's too expensive. His cost is like protecting him without having to protect him. So use that extra protect slot for another play we want to keep Edited April 29, 2021 by Max20Characters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 1 minute ago, Max20Characters said: It makes so much sense to me to leave PK exposed. Either they take him off our hands, or they don't because he's too expensive. His cost is like protecting him without having to protect him. So use that extra protect slot for another play we want to keep I think if he was owed more than one year, he'd be more prohibitive. But with just the one year left, Seattle can take him, hope he plays reasonably well, then flip him for a pick before next year's deadline...and if they're willing to eat a chunk of his remaining money, maybe the pick is a little better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crisis Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 8 minutes ago, Max20Characters said: It makes so much sense to me to leave PK exposed. Either they take him off our hands, or they don't because he's too expensive. His cost is like protecting him without having to protect him. So use that extra protect slot for another play we want to keep Remind me why we want him taken off our hands? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerzey Posted April 29, 2021 Author Share Posted April 29, 2021 3 hours ago, Chimaira_Devil_#9 said: Hmmm I like Bastian, but Kuokkanen has 22 points mostly at Even strength. Cannot see any way that Bastian would be favoured over him. Mainly because I feel like Kuokanen is taking a top 6 role that he probably won’t hold for too long. Bastian is a prefect 4th line player. Big hits, fights, and has a slight scoring touch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max20Characters Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 22 minutes ago, Crisis said: Remind me why we want him taken off our hands? He's too expensive for what he provides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crisis Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 1 hour ago, Max20Characters said: He's too expensive for what he provides. Yeah he's really held the team back this season because of it. Are you saying we should make a statement or something? The Devils will NOT accept overpayment when it comes to player salaries. Even if said overpayment fills a gaping hole on defense, is an incredibly marketable face for a franchise that could really use it, and allows the team to be cap compliant. He provides a lot more than you're letting on to. I'm not saying I would sign him to $9m today, I'm saying the difference in his "deserved" salary, whatever you may think that is, is not worth replacing him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 We should be prepared to overpay multiple guys next year, that’s going to be what we need to recover this team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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