mfitz804 Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 45 minutes ago, SterioDesign said: Yeah but that whole angle is not taking my feelings into considerations at all. WHAT ABOUT MY FEELINGS?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crisis Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 8 hours ago, SterioDesign said: Yeah but that whole angle is not taking my feelings into considerations at all. WHAT ABOUT MY FEELINGS?!? I think he's just looking at it from a contract $ efficiency standpoint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AEWHistory Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 On 5/19/2021 at 7:44 AM, Mitico12 said: Looking at it straight-up this way, yes, seems like an unfair advantage for Vegas. But, let's break it down - each club benefited financially from Vegas' (and now Seattle's) entry into the league - this to the tune of like $20 million per team in distributed funds derived from the entry fees paid. So - if you're Vegas or Seattle - you're like..."Screw that - I paid to have these expansion rules favor my team - so I'm not feeling sorry for anyone" $600 million is a lot of money to enter a team into competition. That's just a fee to enter the league. That's not talking about brick and mortar, logistical, human resource costs - which can drive that amount up another 50%. Imagine paying the $600 million expansion fee, and being as dreary as the Senators or Sharks in their expansion years. Not happening. It benefits the league having a competitive team right off the bat, and it also helps guarantee a generous and quicker return-on-investment to the ownership group of the new franchise. It's all calculated my friends. But doesn’t this all apply to all the expansion teams? They all paid expansion fees and none of them got the treatment that Vegas has gotten. You could argue that it is because of how much Vegas paid, but that seems like a weak argument. Taking into account inflation and the value of teams in the NHL I would bet that Vegas paid what was essentially a fair price compared to earlier expansion teams. Sure, $600 million is a lot of money (it’s more than I usually have in my wallet 😀) but if that’s the entry price then that’s the price, right? The same applies with the other expenses. Every other expansion team needed to find a stadium, hire staff, etc., right. But if you compare what has happened to Vegas with every earlier expansion the NHL had it really is a sad sort of favoritism. I can’t say why, but it really is. When all the teams were added in the ‘70s every team that came before didn’t get to skip having to defend talent (at least not that I am aware, I’m open to being corrected) and the talent available were mostly scrubs. I am sure you’re right that this is calculated, on that we most certainly agree. I’m just not sure I like the equations I am seeing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AEWHistory Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 On 5/27/2021 at 3:01 PM, Colorado Rockies 1976 said: Looks like they did something similar at Kemper...basically raised the playing surface to the bottom of the upper deck. Yeah I knew that Maple Leaf Gardens was also renovated, but never looked up any pics of the results. Love that there’s still a rink on the premises. @DM84 yeah 70s wasn’t a great time for a lot of things American engineering, lol. Cars didn’t fare much better. I didn’t know about the Hartford Civic Center roof collapse...yikes. I do know that Kemper’s design was considered very cutting-edge for that time...the exterior had a very futuristic look for the 70s. I’m sorry, did someone say Pinto? BOOM! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevils1214 Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 THG reporting that Giordano might be on Seattle's radar. If that is the case I am not sure I see them taking on both Giordano and Subban. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevils1214 Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 I would be surprised if they are planning to lose him for nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagknife Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 Landeskog is also going to be exposed, surprised no one traded for his rights… yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crisis Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 Well now that Subban is exposed, I hope Seattle doesn't take him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagknife Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 Just now, Crisis said: Well now that Subban is exposed, I hope Seattle doesn't take him. The number of big names on the exposure list is incredible. sure some have bad deals but others still have talent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, jagknife said: The number of big names on the exposure list is incredible. sure some have bad deals but others still have talent Gourde from Tampa being exposed is gonna be a tough loss for them. I think Seattle takes him, unless Brisbois cuts a deal with Francis. Edited July 18, 2021 by MadDog2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 Just now, MB3 said: Subban and Johnsson exposed. Surprised they protected Bastian over Johnsson, but that tells me the team didn’t see a top-6 role for Johnsson this year and that has me excited. Exposing your Johnsson can only get you into trouble these days. Just now, MadDog2020 said: Gourde from Tampa being exposed is gonna be a tough loss for them. I think Seattle takes him. That should be a definite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crisis Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 I think Tampa loses Palat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagknife Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 The Rangers protected Kevin Rooney. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 Just now, Crisis said: I think Tampa loses Palat I guess that’s the problem of being such a stacked team at the time of an expansion draft, you’re going to lose someone good. Just now, jagknife said: The Rangers protected Kevin Rooney. Instead of who? Someone who has been absent NINE TIMES?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mfitz804 Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 Just now, jagknife said: Still don’t get exposing Subban, but it is what it is I guess. The rest, you had no choices really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mfitz804 Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 Just now, MB3 said: Devils protecting McLeod over Johnsson and Bastian surprises me. Why’s that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 Just now, MB3 said: Devils protecting McLeod over Johnsson and Bastian surprises me. I think Vegas almost assuredly takes Johnsson. Interesting. 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crisis Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 Just now, MB3 said: Devils protecting McLeod over Johnsson and Bastian surprises me. I think Vegas almost assuredly takes Johnsson. Ha Vegas. You're living in the past, man! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 Just now, MadDog2020 said: Interesting. 🤣 Wait Vegas gets to pick in THIS expansion draft too?? Talk about favorable treatment lol. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pumpkin cutter Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 Subban is the only one I’d be sad to see go, but he’s probably gone after his contract anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crisis Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 Just now, pumpkin cutter said: Subban is the only one I’d be sad to see go, but he’s probably gone after his contract anyways. I'd be more upset if Bastian gets got 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pumpkin cutter Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Crisis said: I'd be more upset if Bastian gets got I don’t see them taking him, but I’m also a horrible armchair gm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guadana Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 Thanks God, Fitz didnt protect Johnsson and Butcher. Only thing I hope he will make agreement to protect Bastian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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