mfitz804 Posted September 15, 2020 Author Share Posted September 15, 2020 1 hour ago, SterioDesign said: Well that's a given but it's hard to pull off. Signing a top free agent around 28 years old for 7-8 years and that his prime years doesn't align with our young core then by when they are in their prime that other player is declining and clogging your cap. Well you’re adding a bunch of additional stuff to what I said, but still, there’s a benefit to it which is why every team in the league other than us seems to do it. We just keep our cap space in our pockets, play Kevin Rooney, Mike McLeod and Mirco Mueller and wonder why we missed the playoffs lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crisis Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 If we are going to take the quote for what it literally says, the Devils have an internal budget for 2020-2021 season. Going into the expansion draft with a boat load of cap space could be the smartest thing for the franchise right now. I can't imagine there is a cache of UFAs that could possibly improve the roster enough for a playoff spot. Not saying don't go after anyone, but committing to the cap for the next few seasons would be dumb at the moment. Especially with all the opportunities from the flat cap and expansion draft. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted September 15, 2020 Author Share Posted September 15, 2020 9 hours ago, Crisis said: If we are going to take the quote for what it literally says, the Devils have an internal budget for 2020-2021 season. Going into the expansion draft with a boat load of cap space could be the smartest thing for the franchise right now. I can't imagine there is a cache of UFAs that could possibly improve the roster enough for a playoff spot. Not saying don't go after anyone, but committing to the cap for the next few seasons would be dumb at the moment. Especially with all the opportunities from the flat cap and expansion draft. Also taking it literally, you don't know what the budget is. And I doubt anyone who knows has revealed it. Clearly its not "sped to the cap", but how annoyed I am depends on how tight it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted September 15, 2020 Author Share Posted September 15, 2020 Is he even still "top 6"? i feel like if that's our idea of a top 6 wing, we're in trouble. I would literally rather see anyone from Binghamton in that spot before we did that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicomo Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 Kovy signing back in NJ would be so 2020. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 19 minutes ago, mfitz804 said: Is he even still "top 6"? i feel like if that's our idea of a top 6 wing, we're in trouble. I would literally rather see anyone from Binghamton in that spot before we did that. Kovalchuk is still a top 6 guy... in the KHL. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 48 minutes ago, MadDog2020 said: Kovalchuk is still a top 6 guy... in the KHL. Since coming back, he's scored 26 goals in 110 GP. Great big hard NO. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagknife Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 (edited) I’ll hate this team if that Russian douche comes back to it. Yet another Tweet by Devils’ Insiders that make you wonder if they even know hockey. EDIT: reading the thread of that tweet, they’re trying to play it off as a joke. Highly doubt it, they loved Kovy. Edited September 16, 2020 by jagknife 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicomo Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 35 minutes ago, jagknife said: I’ll hate this team if that Russian douche comes back to it. Yet another Tweet by Devils’ Insiders that make you wonder if they even know hockey. EDIT: reading the thread of that tweet, they’re trying to play it off as a joke. Highly doubt it, they loved Kovy. I mean we all loved Kovy didn’t we? He was one of the most exciting and dynamic players we’ve ever had. That’s in the past though, and bringing him back at 37 years old would be a terrible idea. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 8 hours ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said: Since coming back, he's scored 26 goals in 110 GP. Great big hard NO. Not saying i want him back but 26 goals in his last 110 GP is better than literally anyone on our roster minus Palms, Zajac and Nico. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted September 16, 2020 Author Share Posted September 16, 2020 7 hours ago, SterioDesign said: Not saying i want him back but 26 goals in his last 110 GP is better than literally anyone on our roster minus Palms, Zajac and Nico. Yeah he would be our top 6 lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 7 hours ago, SterioDesign said: Not saying i want him back but 26 goals in his last 110 GP is better than literally anyone on our roster minus Palms, Zajac and Nico. Another part of the problem at this point is that he does very little else. He pretty much has to pop in 30 or so goals to serve any real purpose. Hopefully by this time next year, we're talking about how Bratt, Hughes and others (some of whom have yet to be a part of the organization) have taken steps forward. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilsfan118 Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 Don't want Kovalchuk anywhere near this locker room. Way too many young, impressionable guys that need to learn the RIGHT way to do things, not the KOVY way of doing things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted September 16, 2020 Author Share Posted September 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said: Hopefully by this time next year, we're talking about how Bratt, Hughes and others (some of whom have yet to be a part of the organization) have taken steps forward. I’m adding Nico to that list. Obviously he has progressed, but I’d sure like to see him continuing to do that each season while he’s still so young. There’s room to go from good to great, and from great to superstar, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 FWIW, Pronman ranked the Devils the #2 organization in the league in talent 23 years old and younger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crisis Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 12 minutes ago, MadDog2020 said: FWIW, Pronman ranked the Devils the #2 organization in the league in talent 23 years old and younger. He actually commented that he thinks it was a 3 way tie. NYR was ranked 1 and Vancouver 3. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, Crisis said: He actually commented that he thinks it was a 3 way tie. NYR was ranked 1 and Vancouver 3. That’s not a bad place to be. Pronman’s opinion is pretty well respected, so I like that he has us that high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilsfan118 Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 Sucks, though, that the Rags are going to hold that #1 spot for the foreseeable future thanks to Laf. Then again, deep draft. Maybe the kid we get at #7 will surprise us and be one of the best of the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil Dan 56 Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 13 minutes ago, Devilsfan118 said: Sucks, though, that the Rags are going to hold that #1 spot for the foreseeable future thanks to Laf. Then again, deep draft. Maybe the kid we get at #7 will surprise us and be one of the best of the draft. There's also a chance what we find at 18 or 20 could be something special too considering the depth of the draft. I wouldn't expect them to really affect anything for a few years though. I hope whoever is at 7 can step in without being rushed 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crisis Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 23 minutes ago, Devil Dan 56 said: There's also a chance what we find at 18 or 20 could be something special too considering the depth of the draft. I wouldn't expect them to really affect anything for a few years though. I hope whoever is at 7 can step in without being rushed The last number 7 pick to start in the NHL the year they were drafted was Jeff Skinner 10 years ago. 63 points in 82 games and a Calder. But yeah, no other 7 made the jump right away. Clayton Keller played the last 3 games of the season for Arizona but that hardly counts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevils1214 Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 23 minutes ago, Crisis said: The last number 7 pick to start in the NHL the year they were drafted was Jeff Skinner 10 years ago. 63 points in 82 games and a Calder. But yeah, no other 7 made the jump right away. Clayton Keller played the last 3 games of the season for Arizona but that hardly counts. Picks 4-10 could really go in a lot of ways and there are couple guys in that range that could jump into the NHL right away. Im not sure I would force it if I was NJ unless they really impressed me though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil Dan 56 Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Crisis said: The last number 7 pick to start in the NHL the year they were drafted was Jeff Skinner 10 years ago. 63 points in 82 games and a Calder. But yeah, no other 7 made the jump right away. Clayton Keller played the last 3 games of the season for Arizona but that hardly counts. That's why I said "without being rushed". Basically, it would be cool for them to show up at camp and you can tell they fit. I'm not expecting it, especially with about a month between the draft and the supposed training camp, but just wishful thinking. We don't need to rush anyone, this team isn't gonna be fighting for a cup anytime soon. Might as well let 'em develop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crisis Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 30 minutes ago, Devil Dan 56 said: That's why I said "without being rushed". Basically, it would be cool for them to show up at camp and you can tell they fit. I'm not expecting it, especially with about a month between the draft and the supposed training camp, but just wishful thinking. We don't need to rush anyone, this team isn't gonna be fighting for a cup anytime soon. Might as well let 'em develop Yeah, I feel you, and I agree with everything you said. Would be awesome to land a rookie Skinner type of player but just looking at the past, it doesn't seem too likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aitchmack Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 I'm pretty sure the guys playing in the SHL don't have an NHL release clause in their contracts so if the Devils draft them they won't be playing in the NHL at all next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 6 hours ago, mfitz804 said: I’m adding Nico to that list. Obviously he has progressed, but I’d sure like to see him continuing to do that each season while he’s still so young. There’s room to go from good to great, and from great to superstar, etc. Yeah, I've touched on Nico...I need to see him get through full seasons not getting hurt and then sliding backward, after appearing to have made nice progress. That's been his last two seasons. Not all on him, and I'm still very bullish on him. But feels like this upcoming season is a big one for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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