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On 10/30/2020 at 3:58 PM, Guadana said:

Thanks. That's pleasure to hear it.

You will surprise, no. Only thing i do is reading a lot of hockey news, boards and writing on it. (+tv shows and movies, but it`s a small piece of pie) It`s simple to push language when  you talk and write about interesting topics.
Spanish is quite closer to English than Russian. It is different pronunciation logic, different sentence construction logic. Sentence construction is the most hard thing because we use different standarts, different word sequences. 
It is hard every time when professional actors try to speak on Russian in movies or tv-shows. So you are fully entitled the discount. Wedding is a great place to practice a new language. Alcohol brings people together.
I am often asked by tourists "how to get somewhere". Perhaps this is fate. In general, the locals also often ask me about the location.  I don`t know, may be something wrong with my face. 

Yeah man i gotta give you credits too, especially that i know how hard it is since i'm in the same boat.

It's funny cause i think when you're not english and read someone who also isn't expressing themselves in english, even if it's not perfect. You can always kind of understand what they are trying to say cause you can reverse engineer the mental gymnastic it requires at time and understand.

Like for example... a lot of non-english people are struggling with the pronunciation of similar words like "eat.. heat... tree...three...etc... especially when there's an H involved lol

So if i hear someone from Quebec say phonetically "My tree sons are playing hockey this weekend"... Well i will understand that he meant "three sons" cause i know french language and that tree and three sound similar... but if you're unilingual english... you're very confused going "what do you mean your tree sons?" lol 

I obviously don't know Russian and i'm not sure how structure wize it's close to my language but it still helps.

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5 minutes ago, SterioDesign said:

Yeah man i gotta give you credits too, especially that i know how hard it is since i'm in the same boat.

It's funny cause i think when you're not english and read someone who also isn't expressing themselves in english, even if it's not perfect. You can always kind of understand what they are trying to say cause you can reverse engineer the mental gymnastic it requires at time and understand.

Like for example... a lot of non-english people are struggling with the pronunciation of similar words like "eat.. heat... tree...three...etc... especially when there's an H involved lol

So if i hear someone from Quebec say phonetically "My tree sons are playing hockey this weekend"... Well i will understand that he meant "three sons" cause i know french language and that tree and three sound similar... but if you're unilingual english... you're very confused going "what do you mean your tree sons?" lol 

I obviously don't know Russian and i'm not sure how structure wize it's close to my language but it still helps.

Sometimes it`s easier to read someone who isn`t English native speaker but write or speak on english.  
You can get used to the pronunciation. The structure and sequence of words in specific cases affects more. There is a big fundamental difference between European languages and Russian - the structure and consistency of the Russian language. In Russian, I can change the sequence of words in any order, almost - this affects the subtlety of meaning and color. That's why everyone loves Dostoevsky so much. But you won't find good hit songs in Russian, that will sound good for any ear.

I'm a big fan of Camus, I wish I could read it in the original language. But Spanish gave literature more interesting things) Spanish is next on my list.

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The Russian/Cyrillic alphabet (and seeing words spelled with those letters) makes my eyeballs explode...it’s just SO different than what I’m used to.  Oh, there’s a word that starts with a number 3.  There’s a backwards R...and a backwards N.

Guadana, when you first saw English words, was it similarly jarring for you?

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1 hour ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said:

The Russian/Cyrillic alphabet (and seeing words spelled with those letters) makes my eyeballs explode...it’s just SO different than what I’m used to.  Oh, there’s a word that starts with a number 3.  There’s a backwards R...and a backwards N.

Guadana, when you first saw English words, was it similarly jarring for you?

That were german words. I can`t speak or write but i`m ok to read. I was... 6 yo.

Most fun thing was when i try to learn english after german. That`s where my brain was little damaged from the start. If we talks about letters - it`s just new simbols. A similar approach, a lot of similar things - you can forgive for a new language. I'm sure the Japanese or the Arabs would have laughed at our conversation) And how do the Chinese use tonality(in addition to the complexity of the hieroglyphs)? We are clearly not in the most difficult conditions.

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Learning languages gets more difficult as one ages, in my experience. I was exposed to Polish in grammar school (South River, NJ) , Latin and German in HS, actually studied; had native Spanish speaking roommates in college, and my wife and I took Irish classes much later. Now I have some Chinese clients. My brain felt different after each Irish class, like it had literally been stretched . Anyway, you get further East it gets sketchy. Greece is ok if you had Latin, once you figure out the alphabet. Turkish is another world entirely, I was told it had more in common with Japanese than Western Indo-European languages.  

But as Guadana points out sentence structure changes with each language. Germans like to put verbs at the end of sentences, Romans used long sentences and relied on word forms to make sense. Irish has its own way of answering questions. Language is a window on its speakers. 

Thanks, Guadana!

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11 hours ago, point said:

Learning languages gets more difficult as one ages, in my experience. I was exposed to Polish in grammar school (South River, NJ) , Latin and German in HS, actually studied; had native Spanish speaking roommates in college, and my wife and I took Irish classes much later. Now I have some Chinese clients. My brain felt different after each Irish class, like it had literally been stretched . Anyway, you get further East it gets sketchy. Greece is ok if you had Latin, once you figure out the alphabet. Turkish is another world entirely, I was told it had more in common with Japanese than Western Indo-European languages.  

But as Guadana points out sentence structure changes with each language. Germans like to put verbs at the end of sentences, Romans used long sentences and relied on word forms to make sense. Irish has its own way of answering questions. Language is a window on its speakers. 

Thanks, Guadana!

Great story! My father knew 9 languages and could speak on six of them openly. I've never been close to that.

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1 hour ago, Nicomo said:

I love that he chose his number because of an ice cream bar lol

Reminds me of when Steve Heinze used to wear #57.  

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8 minutes ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said:

Reminds me of when Steve Heinze used to wear #57.  

That’s funny. Let’s not forget when Matt Dumba wore number 55. Guy’s jersey actually read DUMBA55. 

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16 hours ago, jagknife said:

Logo looks like it’s more centered!

Sadly if you want to get a "proper" reverse retro, you'll probably have to go game-issued or game-worn (this has sadly been the case with Adidas jerseys since Day 1).  DM84 mentioned that the ones that will be made available to fans (even the "authentics") won't be close to what the on-ice jersey will be.  

A proper GI or GW RR would be the only version of this design that I'd be willing to buy (not that it's a high priority for me at the moment).  

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6 hours ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said:

Sadly if you want to get a "proper" reverse retro, you'll probably have to go game-issued or game-worn (this has sadly been the case with Adidas jerseys since Day 1).  DM84 mentioned that the ones that will be made available to fans (even the "authentics") won't be close to what the on-ice jersey will be.  

A proper GI or GW RR would be the only version of this design that I'd be willing to buy (not that it's a high priority for me at the moment).  

And I assume it would be even pricier than a normal red or white GI/GW? I bought an Indo “authentic” white heritage when they came out because I figured even a GI would be hard to come by since they only wear them a handful of times a year. 

I finally bought my first GI from Meigray last year, and I thought that was even kind of expensive, considering it was some guy I’ve never heard of (John Ramage). That one is actually still at EPS waiting to be turned into a Hughes. But ofc it’s taking forever as usual...

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38 minutes ago, Nicomo said:

And I assume it would be even pricier than a normal red or white GI/GW? I bought an Indo “authentic” white heritage when they came out because I figured even a GI would be hard to come by since they only wear them a handful of times a year. 

I finally bought my first GI from Meigray last year, and I thought that was even kind of expensive, considering it was some guy I’ve never heard of (John Ramage). That one is actually still at EPS waiting to be turned into a Hughes. But ofc it’s taking forever as usual...

Odds are the RR will be more expensive. 

I only collect goalie jerseys now, so my options will be both limited and very expensive. 

The MeiGray prices on GI jerseys are sometimes quite high, and they don’t seem to care. No-name players on the Adidas styles are a minimum of $300, and usually more. But, they are also the only source if you want the real thing. 

I have bought quite a few over the years, you kind of just have to suck it up and do it. 

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