Guadana 942 Posted November 18, 2020 Author Share Posted November 18, 2020 3 hours ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said: Holtz with 4 G and 5 A through 12 GP...same as teammate Jacob Josefson (they’re tied for second on their team in points). Not a knock on Holtz in the slightest or even remotely trying to suggest that he won’t work out...just checked out his numbers on hockeydb.com and was like “Oh, there’s Josefson.” He was always there. They are linemates. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mfitz804 12,449 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 All that does is make me question the quality of competition in a league where Jacob Josefson scores 9 points in 12 games. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MadDog2020 9,430 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 28 minutes ago, mfitz804 said: All that does is make me question the quality of competition in a league where Jacob Josefson scores 9 points in 12 games. The SHL is a good league. It’s probably the third best league in the world after the KHL. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Colorado Rockies 1976 7,113 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 1 hour ago, mfitz804 said: All that does is make me question the quality of competition in a league where Jacob Josefson scores 9 points in 12 games. The big difference is that Josefson is a 29-year-old vet who's likely topped out there...a AAAA player. Holtz is just getting started. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mfitz804 12,449 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 1 hour ago, MadDog2020 said: The SHL is a good league. It’s probably the third best league in the world after the KHL. That’s like saying the Rangers are the third best team in the NY-NJ area. They still suck. So does Josefson. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guadana 942 Posted November 18, 2020 Author Share Posted November 18, 2020 (edited) Pakkila made assist today, Merkley made three shots, but end the game without a point. Gritsyuk made assist on the last seconds of the game. On the last week Baumgarter made 2 assist in two games. He has 2g and 2a in 7 games this season. Edited November 18, 2020 by Guadana Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hrasvalg 70 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 (edited) 10 hours ago, mfitz804 said: All that does is make me question the quality of competition in a league where Jacob Josefson scores 9 points in 12 games. Djurgården is in place 11 of 14 teams. That's what Josefsson does to the team Edited November 18, 2020 by hrasvalg 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nessus 569 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 The SHL is a fine league. There are plenty of fringe NHLers who ended up excelling in other leagues. It's not like Josefson was one of those low talent, high character guys. He had some skills, he thought the game reasonably well, but he couldn't put it all together at the NHL level. Plus it's a pretty small sample size. Players go on hot streaks all the time. I wouldn't be surprised if their teammate Єklund (2.3% accurate) hits a cold streak and doesn't finish the season with anywhere close to Holtz's points total. With all that said, we definitely do want to see Holtz separating from the pack and hitting a 1 point/game pace as he develops this season. Similar to players like Nylander (or Elias Pettersson), it would suggest a successful NHL career. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mfitz804 12,449 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 Jeez, none of you guys can take a joke. Did you guys honestly think I was criticizing the league rather than making fun of Josefson?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guadana 942 Posted November 19, 2020 Author Share Posted November 19, 2020 Holtz made excellent play few minutes ago. He is #88 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nessus 569 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 4 hours ago, Guadana said: Holtz made excellent play few minutes ago. He is #88 Maybe I'm wrong and William Ekklund (<-- avoiding the text filter) goes on to have the best SHL draft year of all time, thanks to Holtz. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guadana 942 Posted November 20, 2020 Author Share Posted November 20, 2020 1 hour ago, nessus said: Maybe I'm wrong and William Ekklund (<-- avoiding the text filter) goes on to have the best SHL draft year of all time, thanks to Holtz. a small sample, but he is on this way. Anyway we need in defenseman. And i truly believe we will regret when 2% accurate will new one swedish blonde pop star. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guadana 942 Posted November 20, 2020 Author Share Posted November 20, 2020 Gritsyuk scores his first goal today. Merkley has two assists today. Pakkila made assist today. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guadana 942 Posted November 24, 2020 Author Share Posted November 24, 2020 (edited) Studenic scores 6 goals and got 3a in 12 games. __________________________________________________ Sharangovic scores another goal. OT this time. I saw some of his games. Didn`t have a time to make records. Anyway what can i say - he play in Coleman type game. PK, puck challange, speed, wrist shot, rolling to the net. __________________________________ Talvitie got his first assist. That was in his third game. _______________________ Gritsyuk scores. 2 goals in his last two games. He is second ppg u20 play in VHL(second adult league in Russia). 2g 4a in 8 games ______________________ Merkley made three assists in his two last games. Edited November 24, 2020 by Guadana 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mfitz804 12,449 Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Is it bad to want most of these guys on the NHL squad this year? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guadana 942 Posted November 24, 2020 Author Share Posted November 24, 2020 Just now, mfitz804 said: Is it bad to want most of these guys on the NHL squad this year? I will be very surprised if Sharangovich doesn't dressed for the first game. Merkley looks great, but he has good partners, and judging by the games I've seen, Liiga doesn't have high level of defense. I don't know how much Merkley will be able totranslate his game. We should wait of Gritsyuk for year or two. Maybe three. But after that... I wouldn`t be surprise to him in top-6. He is a best devils prospect in zone enteries. I can describe how good he is for a long time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mfitz804 12,449 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 3 hours ago, Guadana said: We should wait of Gritsyuk for year or two. Maybe three. But after that... I wouldn`t be surprise to him in top-6. He is a best devils prospect in zone enteries. I can describe how good he is for a long time. You know I love me some zone entries. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guadana 942 Posted November 26, 2020 Author Share Posted November 26, 2020 Another day another great performance from Sharangovich. Goal, OT assist, play on the slot in pp goal. Solid PK and PP minutes. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SterioDesign 3,417 Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 i really wish Hughes would be playing right now 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nicomo 7,093 Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 3 hours ago, SterioDesign said: i really wish Hughes would be playing right now Opinions seem pretty split on whether or not he should play in the WJC next month. I can see both sides tbh. On one hand he’ll just be beating up on lesser competition like used to pre-NHL, and there’s obviously the risk of injury. Otoh he hasn’t played hockey in a really long time, and I would think playing at any level is better than nothing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SterioDesign 3,417 Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, Nicomo said: Opinions seem pretty split on whether or not he should play in the WJC next month. I can see both sides tbh. On one hand he’ll just be beating up on lesser competition like used to pre-NHL, and there’s obviously the risk of injury. Otoh he hasn’t played hockey in a really long time, and I would think playing at any level is better than nothing. if anything i think "beating up on lesser competition" would be great for his confidence cause he was certainly beat up by better competition last year. Confidence is key. As for the risk of injury... well you can't really go on in life living in fear like this. Plus it's not like the Devils will be contending next season or that we're even assured to have a season, so if he CAN play he should. not playing hockey at his age and in such a transitional period is not any good. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nicomo 7,093 Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 1 minute ago, SterioDesign said: if anything i think "beating up on lesser competition" would be great for his confidence cause he was certainly beat up by better competition last year. Confidence is key. As for the risk of injury... well you can't really go on in life living in fear like this. Plus it's not like the Devils will be contending next season or that we're even assured to have a season, so if he CAN play he should. not playing hockey at his age and in such a transitional period is not any good. But will he just rely on things he used to do that clearly don’t work at the NHL level? Not sure how much that really helps in the grand scheme of things. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SterioDesign 3,417 Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 9 minutes ago, Nicomo said: But will he just rely on things he used to do that clearly don’t work at the NHL level? Not sure how much that really helps in the grand scheme of things. Still it's the same reason you send some player down in the AHL so they can get more minutes and regain some confidence. He's also a smart kid and could do even better knowing what he knows from the NHL now Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nicomo 7,093 Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 1 minute ago, SterioDesign said: Still it's the same reason you send some player down in the AHL so they can get more minutes and regain some confidence. He's also a smart kid and could do even better knowing what he knows from the NHL now Like I said, I can see both sides. If he plays I’ll look forward to watching him. And I think he makes team USA better, which is also a plus, but if the Devils don’t send him I’ll understand their standpoint, too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SterioDesign 3,417 Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 Just now, Nicomo said: Like I said, I can see both sides. If he plays I’ll look forward to watching him. And I think he makes team USA better, which is also a plus, but if the Devils don’t send him I’ll understand their standpoint, too. ah yeah i can absolutely see both sides too. I just personally want him to play so he can gain confidence and have fun playing hockey Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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