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1 minute ago, SterioDesign said:

god dammnit i thought i fixed it before anyone could reply

listen. i said Andersson instead of Johnsson and Hischier instead of Hughes.. So obviously i'm having a long a slow stroke okay. And mocking the situation is a dick move.

At least we actually have a Hischier on the roster. 

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21 minutes ago, Devilsfan118 said:

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When Ty Smith “fell” to us I was probably as excited as I’ve been during any draft since the Parise one.   

(the top picks were great but we knew we were getting whoever we wanted going into the night).  

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13 minutes ago, Lateralous said:

When Ty Smith “fell” to us I was probably as excited as I’ve been during any draft since the Parise one.   

(the top picks were great but we knew we were getting whoever we wanted going into the night).  

Not only does he look legit on the ice, but we are going to have a lot of young leaders on this team going forward. I can see Nico getting the C by next year, and Jack and Ty wearing the A’s at some point. Everything you hear about Mercer suggests he has a lot of leadership qualities as well. 

The future is looking bright, folks. Finally. 

1 minute ago, Satans Hockey said:

I don't mind being wrong, don't think too many of us had Wedgewood posting a shutout and playing that well lol

A pleasant surprise indeed. 

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34 minutes ago, SterioDesign said:

I really love what Ruff is doing with the rookies too. He's trusting them, willing to live with their mistakes.

Putting Hughes, Sharangovich and Smith together in OT. When McLeod made a mistake leading to a goal at the end of a period. His line was sent on the ice to open the next period and they got a goal.

He knows bastian and mcleod are close friends and he's keeping them together.

Small things like this goes a long way.

I'm still so fvcking upset thinking back at how coaches like Deboer were treating the young guys. They'd make a mistake and get benched for the rest of the period and our old over the hills vet would literally get away with MURDER non-stop with no consequences.

Also still so upset that Deboer didn't even put Larsson in the lineup for his ONE chance to play against his idol Lidstrom. And instead dressed god knows which 78 years old veteran. Again, small things like this goes a very long way. 

 

The name you’re thinking of is more than likely Peter Harrold. How the fvck that man QB’ed the PP in 2012 is way the hell beyond me. Sure it worked, but what the hell.

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32 minutes ago, Nicomo said:

Kulikov quietly had a very strong game. Apparently he led the team in ice time? 

Yup! I don't remember who it was, I think it was Lee, but he made a solid play blocking the pass across to Barzal. Great game by him.

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1 hour ago, EdgeControl said:

Solid effort ,    good for pavel scoring when barzel didn't. Jack finding the top shelf with that wicked wrister wedge getting the shutout. Lindy coaching the boys up.. even tennyson played well.  Good all around except palms 

sums it up for me; goose, zajac, smith honorble mention

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10 hours ago, mfitz804 said:

Niedermayer’s full rookie year was 11G, 29A, 40 points in 80 games. 

Will Ty exceed 0.5 points per game in his (abbreviated) rookie year?

To be fair though, Nieds was 19, after getting a taste the season before.

But I do believe he will break .5 points per game.

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13 hours ago, mfitz804 said:

Didn’t know much about him before the trade. I still don’t. 

If not for the fact that I know he wears #11 and that I occasionally see that number on the ice for the Devils, I would never know that this Johnsson guy is on the team.  I can't remember a single thing that he's done so far this season.  He has one shot on goal through five games this season.  ONE!

This year's Palms is a good case study of how misleading quick-glance numbers can be at times.  5 GP, 0 G, 3 A, 3 Pts, +4, 10 SOG.  If you didn't see him play, you'd see these numbers and think "Well, he's getting his shots at least, he's got a few points, he gets a couple of goals soon and he's off and running."  And he could eventually very well get it going (did get 5 SOG last night, doubling his season total), but I can't think of a single attempt that had me thinking "A couple more like that, and he'll snap out of this thing."  I can't think of a single chance that he's had so far that had me thinking "Damn, he was robbed on that one!"  If I could see each one of those SOG played back, I'm guessing that they're all low%, relatively harmless attempts, that do little more than pad the total.

I'm not jumping aboard the "Bash Palms at every opportunity" train, but as a fan who clearly has enjoyed what he's brought to the Devils since coming aboard, these five games are as bad as any that I can remember him having (even if the quick-glance numbers don't really jive with that).  He just looks terrible...slow, clumsy, kind of confused as to what to do when.  I think MB3 goes overboard with the Palms hate sometimes, no question, but last night I get where he was coming from...there were a number of occasions throughout the game where I was saying "God-DAMMIT Kyle!  What the fvck was THAT?!"

In the past, he'd have his, say, 10 goals in 17 games bursts where'd he put up about a PPG (and a shooting% pushing 20), and then those 4 goals in 20 games slumps, where the pucks weren't going in for him...but he'd still be getting his good chances and you knew that he'd eventually get on another roll.  As much as I don't want to make a huge deal out of a 5-game sample (it's minuscule), Palms looks nothing like that player at the moment.  And a part of me is wondering what the hell happened.  Really hope that it's just the long layoff, because it's starting to feel like this season has a chance to be more fun and relevant than we could've expected going in.  But the only way that that can happen is if everyone's contributing...team isn't good enough to overcome expected producers not producing.  Just hope that he figures this out, sooner than later.         

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I was jumping back and forth between the AFL game and the Devils and sometimes nodding out. Both were good games because the team I wanted to win won. 

Not much I can contribute that hasn't been posted other than the way to go, Devils. 

I have to give a shout out to Wedgewood. He had a shutout, only his second one, I think. He came prepared to start unlike his first surprise start this season due to the virus protocol for Blackwood. 

On to the Flyers

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52 minutes ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said:

If not for the fact that I know he wears #11 and that I occasionally see that number on the ice for the Devils, I would never know that this Johnsson guy is on the team.  I can't remember a single thing that he's done so far this season.  He has one shot on goal through five games this season.  ONE!

This year's Palms is a good case study of how misleading quick-glance numbers can be at times.  5 GP, 0 G, 3 A, 3 Pts, +4, 10 SOG.  If you didn't see him play, you'd see these numbers and think "Well, he's getting his shots at least, he's got a few points, he gets a couple of goals soon and he's off and running."  And he could eventually very well get it going (did get 5 SOG last night, doubling his season total), but I can't think of a single attempt that had me thinking "A couple more like that, and he'll snap out of this thing."  I can't think of a single chance that he's had so far that had me thinking "Damn, he was robbed on that one!"  If I could see each one of those SOG played back, I'm guessing that they're all low%, relatively harmless attempts, that do little more than pad the total.

I'm not jumping aboard the "Bash Palms at every opportunity" train, but as a fan who clearly has enjoyed what he's brought to the Devils since coming aboard, these five games are as bad as any that I can remember him having (even if the quick-glance numbers don't really jive with that).  He just looks terrible...slow, clumsy, kind of confused at to what to do when.  I think MB3 goes overboard with the Palms hate sometimes, no question, but last night I get where he was coming from...there were a number of occasions throughout the game where I was saying "God-DAMMIT Kyle!  What the fvck was THAT?!"

In the past, he'd have his, say, 10 goals in 17 games bursts where'd he put up about a PPG (and a shooting% pushing 20), and then those 4 goals in 20 games slumps, where the pucks weren't going in for him...but he'd still be getting his good chances and you knew that he'd eventually get on another roll.  As much as I don't want to make a huge deal out of a 5-game sample (it's minuscule), Palms looks nothing like that player at the moment.  And a part of me is wondering what the hell happened.  Really hope that it's just the long layoff, because it's starting to feel like this season has a chance to be more fun and relevant than we could've expected going in.  But the only way that that can happen is if everyone's contributing...team isn't good enough to overcome expected producers not producing.  Just hope that he figures this out, sooner than later.         

It's not the point production that is troubling me about Palmieri, he just looks bad. Lots of turnovers, he looks like he is skating through wet cement at times, he's just not doing what we're used to him doing. 

Is it rust? Maybe he did a sh!t job of keeping himself in game shape over the extended break. 

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1 minute ago, mfitz804 said:

It's not the point production that is troubling me about Palmieri, he just looks bad. Lots of turnovers, he looks like he is skating through wet cement at times, he's just not doing what we're used to him doing. 

Is it rust? Maybe he did a sh!t job of keeping himself in game shape over the extended break. 

Re:  the bolded, that was my point.  His quick-glance numbers actually don't look that bad at all.  But HE does.  

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19 minutes ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said:

Re:  the bolded, that was my point.  His quick-glance numbers actually don't look that bad at all.  But HE does.  

Yup, totally agree. 

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Murray imo has been solid so far. Great addition imo. Very reliable. I could care less if he gets points. Just keep it out of our net.

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1 hour ago, mfitz804 said:

It's not the point production that is troubling me about Palmieri, he just looks bad. Lots of turnovers, he looks like he is skating through wet cement at times, he's just not doing what we're used to him doing. 

Is it rust? Maybe he did a sh!t job of keeping himself in game shape over the extended break. 

I think this is it. He looks way worse than he should, I don't think he was ready for the season cause a career doesn't just nose dive off a cliff for no reason over the course of a weird as hell off season.

Talk about a possible career blunder, in terms of pending UFA status

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This year, we finally have good and mobile defensive defensemen. The level of defense is much higher and it helps a lot. Plus, Smith was significantly more useful at both ends of the ice. And of course the goalkeepers did not let us down in any game.

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2 minutes ago, Guadana said:

This year, we finally have good and mobile defensive defensemen. The level of defense is much higher and it helps a lot. Plus, Smith was significantly more useful at both ends of the ice. And of course the goalkeepers did not let us down in any game.

Devils team save% is .944.

League average is .901 to date.

Very nice to be on this side of the fence for a change, but suffice it to say that we can expect the Devils' save% to come down.  And that's when some of the guys who are off to slow starts will need to pick it up significantly.  

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1 minute ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said:

Devils team save% is .944.

League average is .901 to date.

Very nice to be on this side of the fence for a change, but suffice it to say that we can expect the Devils' save% to come down.  And that's when some of the guys who are off to slow starts will need to pick it up significantly.  

This is definitely true. 

I am trying to remain grounded and remember that despite the start, the bottom could fall out pretty quick. I'm just stating the obvious, but I'm cautious about getting too excited. I don't think the there is any way this place doesn't implode if they hold this winning trajectory a little longer then start dropping games lol. Then again they're still waiting on Nico, Bratt, and Vats and that could help a lot too so who knows.... 

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17 minutes ago, NJDevils1214 said:

This is definitely true. 

I am trying to remain grounded and remember that despite the start, the bottom could fall out pretty quick. I'm just stating the obvious, but I'm cautious about getting too excited. I don't think the there is any way this place doesn't implode if they hold this winning trajectory a little longer then start dropping games lol. Then again they're still waiting on Nico, Bratt, and Vats and that could help a lot too so who knows.... 

A lot of underlying numbers don't point to anything that's currently happening (record-wise) being sustainable...they're getting badly outshot and outchanced, though I feel like they've played better than some of those numbers suggest...I thought the Devils played a very solid game last night, and even in the 4-1 loss to the Isles, they played pretty well in the second...it doesn't feel like EVERYTHING they've managed so far was due to insane luck (and that's a good thing).

And yeah, I keep reminding myself that even if the Devils are due for some regression, they still have reinforcements waiting in the wings.  Hughes has looked great so far...can't see him falling off a cliff and turning back into the player he was last season.  And I do think this team is pretty well-coached...we got so used to DBA and DBA 2.0 not really having any answers that it makes us appreciate a coach who sees his team struggling, and realizes that he needs to make some changes, to at least give his team a chance to perform better.  For sure, this team has gotten a LOT of great goaltending, so that is helping in a huge way, but seeing how the Devils looked against the Isles in this past game vs. how they looked on Thursday has me very optimistic about what Ruff might be able to do.   

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