Devs3cups Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 4 hours ago, mfitz804 said: This apparently aired on NHL Newtork. I’m leaving it here because I am a sh!t stirrer and I want to watch some guys heads explode. Troll job by Lawton lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 Just now, Devs3cups said: Troll job by Lawton lol Take out one or the other, add in Zacha and Severson...do you do it then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devs3cups Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 1 minute ago, mfitz804 said: Take out one or the other, add in Zacha and Severson...do you do it then? Interesting question. Severson and Nico for Eichel and Dahlin? Even though I love both, I do that. But Buffalo doesn’t lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 1 minute ago, Devs3cups said: Interesting question. Severson and Nico for Eichel and Dahlin? Even though I love both, I do that. But Buffalo doesn’t lol And Zacha lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devs3cups Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 12 minutes ago, mfitz804 said: And Zacha lol. Yeah I’d still do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 5 hours ago, mfitz804 said: This apparently aired on NHL Newtork. I’m leaving it here because I am a sh!t stirrer and I want to watch some guys heads explode. Call me crazy but i think i'd make that trade. Jack Eichel is a special player. He proved already that he can produce in the NHL and go over 80 pts. Dahlin is also one of the best young dmen in the league and could be special. Hughes, it's still all about expectations at this point again. Obviously we see there's potential. But I also see that in 5 years we could still be saying that he's just snake bitten or that he's a playmaker not a scorer. Hischier is a good player but i think it's clear that he's not a special player that brings you to the next level. Dahlin is a dman and really not that far behind Hischier in points in their best season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MB3 Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 The Devils should immediately decline that trade. Jack Hughes fits better with the Devils window, and Eichel has 5 years left on his contract which goes up fast on a rebuilding team. I think there’s a good chance Eichel and Dahlin are the two best players in this trade, but I think the Devils have to dig their heels in and build around Hughes, Hischier, Smith and hopefully Luke Hughes after this draft. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satans Hockey Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 8 minutes ago, MB3 said: The Devils should immediately decline that trade. Jack Hughes fits better with the Devils window, and Eichel has 5 years left on his contract which goes up fast on a rebuilding team. I think there’s a good chance Eichel and Dahlin are the two best players in this trade, but I think the Devils have to dig their heels in and build around Hughes, Hischier, Smith and hopefully Luke Hughes after this draft. Absolutely agree about the window. Eichel is basically the Hall situation again with a few more years added on, have to build around him quickly asap or he's gonna bounce and we already know he's miserable in Buffalo losing so he wouldn't be any happier here losing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 6 minutes ago, Satans Hockey said: Absolutely agree about the window. Eichel is basically the Hall situation again with a few more years added on, have to build around him quickly asap or he's gonna bounce and we already know he's miserable in Buffalo losing so he wouldn't be any happier here losing. Exactly. fvck that. I’m not down with Hall 2.0. Roll with our guys and let the chips fall where they may. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devlman Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 57 minutes ago, SterioDesign said: Hischier is a good player but i think it's clear that he's not a special player that brings you to the next level. Dahlin is a dman and really not that far behind Hischier in points in their best season. Huh? That’s not clear to me at all. Nico could be a special player. Books not closed on him. A lot of pundits had him breaking out this season. I decline that trade so fast. No need for Eichel’s contract and timeline. Roll with our boys. Much more satisfying when the winning happens when it’s our guys. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerrydevil Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 7 hours ago, mfitz804 said: This apparently aired on NHL Newtork. I’m leaving it here because I am a sh!t stirrer and I want to watch some guys heads explode. Brian Lawton is a bust as a hockey analyst, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagknife Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 5 hours ago, Jerrydevil said: Brian Lawton is a bust as a hockey analyst, too. I can’t stand him, at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 (edited) 7 minutes ago, jagknife said: I can’t stand him, at all He’s awful. I have no idea why anyone thinks he’s got a personality for TV. Edited April 8 by MadDog2020 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 7 hours ago, MB3 said: The Devils should immediately decline that trade. Jack Hughes fits better with the Devils window, and Eichel has 5 years left on his contract which goes up fast on a rebuilding team. I think there’s a good chance Eichel and Dahlin are the two best players in this trade, but I think the Devils have to dig their heels in and build around Hughes, Hischier, Smith and hopefully Luke Hughes after this draft. I agree with this, except maybe the Luke Hughes part. I’ll take him if he is the best available, but I wouldn’t draft him as security against an unproven Jack Hughes possibly wanting to leave here in like 9 years if there was a better player available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crisis Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 Hey look, we now have an extra first rounder to use to move up and snag Luke if need be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 8 hours ago, devlman said: Huh? That’s not clear to me at all. Nico could be a special player. Books not closed on him. A lot of pundits had him breaking out this season. I decline that trade so fast. No need for Eichel’s contract and timeline. Roll with our boys. Much more satisfying when the winning happens when it’s our guys. Well i sure hope so, not as if i don't want him to be but i just don't see it. If i were to guess Nico is going to be a very solid 2way player that plays the right way and hover around 50-60 pts per season over his career. May have a few peak seasons where he goes to maybe 75. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevsMan84 Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 41 minutes ago, Crisis said: Hey look, we now have an extra first rounder to use to move up and snag Luke if need be. If this is what this trade is largely based on, then it's a for sure a win. I just can't remember the last time in the past 5 years teams moved up into the top 3 from trading 2 later picks (albeit one will be a top 6 most likely). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guadana Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 (edited) 10 hours ago, SterioDesign said: Call me crazy but i think i'd make that trade. Jack Eichel is a special player. He proved already that he can produce in the NHL and go over 80 pts. Dahlin is also one of the best young dmen in the league and could be special. Hughes, it's still all about expectations at this point again. Obviously we see there's potential. But I also see that in 5 years we could still be saying that he's just snake bitten or that he's a playmaker not a scorer. Hischier is a good player but i think it's clear that he's not a special player that brings you to the next level. Dahlin is a dman and really not that far behind Hischier in points in their best season. yeah Buffalo is a losing team and Eichel with Dahlin are their leaders. Two walking keys to success. And they are close to their maximum(Eichel especially). And Dahlin will get a long term this summer. Yeah, a very sensible decision to abandon two centers on more reasonable controlled contracts in favor of fewer years with expensive deals. Man, how do you do it every time? Edited April 8 by Guadana 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guadana Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 (edited) 10 hours ago, MB3 said: The Devils should immediately decline that trade. Jack Hughes fits better with the Devils window, and Eichel has 5 years left on his contract which goes up fast on a rebuilding team. I think there’s a good chance Eichel and Dahlin are the two best players in this trade, but I think the Devils have to dig their heels in and build around Hughes, Hischier, Smith and hopefully Luke Hughes after this draft. and hopefully Clarke. Generally this is a very reasonable, correct logically, consistent remark. 15 minutes ago, DevsMan84 said: If this is what this trade is largely based on, then it's a for sure a win. I just can't remember the last time in the past 5 years teams moved up into the top 3 from trading 2 later picks (albeit one will be a top 6 most likely). This is a special year. The scouts can't agree on anything. Someone considers Eklund the best, someone puts him in eighth place. There are no agreement with any top-8 prospect. The top 8 are very close to each other. If there is antrade for improving the pick , it will be in this year. Edited April 8 by Guadana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevsMan84 Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 13 minutes ago, Guadana said: and hopefully Clarke. Generally this is a very reasonable, correct logically, consistent remark. This is a special year. The scouts can't agree on anything. Someone considers Eklund the best, someone puts him in eighth place. There are no agreement with any top-8 prospect. The top 8 are very close to each other. If there is antrade for improving the pick , it will be in this year. So what would run counter to trading our pick (likely top 5-6) and the Islanders first round pick we just received to push us into the top 3 picks if the talent is so close together in the top 8. Might as well use our pick and trade the Islanders pick then for a known quantity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 7 minutes ago, DevsMan84 said: So what would run counter to trading our pick (likely top 5-6) and the Islanders first round pick we just received to push us into the top 3 picks if the talent is so close together in the top 8. Might as well use our pick and trade the Islanders pick then for a known quantity. I’d do it immediately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guadana Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 10 minutes ago, DevsMan84 said: So what would run counter to trading our pick (likely top 5-6) and the Islanders first round pick we just received to push us into the top 3 picks if the talent is so close together in the top 8. Might as well use our pick and trade the Islanders pick then for a known quantity. Because we have a specific need and a specific interest in a particular player. for example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevsMan84 Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 3 minutes ago, mfitz804 said: I’d do it immediately. Typically in most drafts, there is a drop-off in talent after the first 2-3 picks and then another one after the 5-7 pick. If the talent is a giant grab bag of the top 6-8, then it makes more sense to stay pat instead of trading our newly acquired Islanders pick for a slight improvement. On the other hand if we win the lottery and get into the top 3, then this is all moot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevsMan84 Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 Just now, Guadana said: Because we have a specific need and a specific interest in a particular player. for example. Drafting for need is a worst way you can ever draft. That is how we end up with Zacha as the number 6 pick in the deepest draft in the past 15 years because there was no way in hell we were choosing a defenseman at the time (imagine us with Provorov instead). Besides, we need everything but centers (I would like some insurance in case we burn out Blackwood by the time he is 27). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guadana Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 1 minute ago, DevsMan84 said: Drafting for need is a worst way you can ever draft. That is how we end up with Zacha as the number 6 pick in the deepest draft in the past 15 years because there was no way in hell we were choosing a defenseman at the time (imagine us with Provorov instead). Besides, we need everything but centers (I would like some insurance in case we burn out Blackwood by the time he is 27). Yes it is, but if you have an equal choice, you take what you need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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