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And two things I really don't like: Starting extra innings with a man on second. 7-inning doubleheaders.  

The traditionalist in me despises it as well. Heck most baseball purists (and non purists) do There is a way to shorten these games and still not mess with things that are sacred and resort to gi

Yeah I get being cautious, but at the same time it feels like the Mets got screwed here...if MLB wants to play a 162-game sched, then accept that in the current environment, teams are occasionally hav

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I'm not gonna lie, I definitely shared CR's skepticism over both Lindor wanting to get a deal done (it seemed as if he was just fine letting it get to free agency unless he got his asking price - especially since he's a big union rep) and over Sandyball's intransignence.  It almost seemed as if Sandy was a bit gunshy on giving out a deal that was too long after the whole Cespedes fiasco.  Fortunately with Cohen money itself wasn't going to be the issue and sounded like the compromise for not adding on any more years was more money - the deal went up to $340 million but some of it now being deferred too.

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Look, we know that these deals are risky as hell, and are bad the moment that they’re signed.

That being said, if the Mets are making the playoffs and manage to bring home a World Series championship, with Lindor factoring in heavily, we won’t care if he’s a shell of himself with 3-4 years left on his deal.

This extension was important and crucial for everyone involved...Lindor would’ve been crazy to leave well over $300 million on the table (not like there’s been tons of offers made in that range)...it was just too much of a risk to hope that kind of money would still be waiting for him next offseason.  And Sandy (with Cohen’s input no doubt) finally went that extra mile to get a deal done.  No, the Mets won’t be signing every top free agent and they will lose some key players along the way (all teams do), but we now know that they can and will go that little bit further if they really have to...they won’t forever find ways to come close, or stubbornly decide that even if a little more will get it done, no, they’re not going any further.

This $341 million bought the Mets more than Lindor...it bought the Met fans’ collective trust and excitement, and faith that things really have begun to change.  It signals the return of the Mets as a legit big-market team...and even though other moves were made and money spent, the ushering in of the Cohen era, after some earlier potholes.  It really feels like “Same Ol Mets” can be put away for a while...and that is a beautiful beautiful thing.

Well done Mets, well done Francisco!

PLAY BALL!!!

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Programming note because we’re an ESPN game tonight and ESPN wants nonsense we gotta deal with A-Rod during the telecast lolz...I may just turn Howie and company on instead.

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Welp never mind that last post

Looks like the Friday game if not the whole series is getting nixed too because of the Nats COVID outbreak.

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1 hour ago, NJDevs4978 said:

Welp never mind that last post

Looks like the Friday game if not the whole series is getting nixed too because of the Nats COVID outbreak.

There was no Friday game (though of course it would've been the "buffer" date if this had just been a weather-related postponement)...next games were on Saturday and Sunday.  But yeah can't imagine the whole series doesn't get postponed.  Kinda sucks, but par for the course in 2021.  

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1 hour ago, DevilMinder said:

Ahh, the Mets and the COVID era, this should be a new embarrassing saga for our storied history.

Nats are the ones with the COVID issue.  

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9 minutes ago, NJDevs4978 said:

Opening Day officially postponed to Monday 

Seemed like a formality at this point.  Obviously won't be the first time we see this.  

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Friggin Nationals...but we were involved so it feels like a bit of that Wilpon-esque misfortune residue still remains

Did the Nats follow proper protocol...somehow I doubt it. Now they have to face Atlanta with a depleted roster but they get a pass against us...they could've played us with a depleted roster too couldn't they? The guys who have to go on quarantine go on quarantine...then piece the rest of it together Rizzo. This is what happened under your nose. But they get a pass against us...

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Yeah I get being cautious, but at the same time it feels like the Mets got screwed here...if MLB wants to play a 162-game sched, then accept that in the current environment, teams are occasionally have to play very short-handed and with call-ups.  Three days off wasn't going to magically make it all better.

At least the Mets finally get to start their season.  

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I don’t entirely get a cancellation over just making them play short handed either, I guess the argument is make sure you don’t cause new cases by convening the Nats together before you know who has it, and it takes a few days for results to pop...but if that’s the reason they shouldn’t be playing today either. Their last new case was a day or two ago?

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And two things I really don't like:

Starting extra innings with a man on second.

7-inning doubleheaders.

 

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55 minutes ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said:

And two things I really don't like:

Starting extra innings with a man on second.

7-inning doubleheaders.

 

I could maybe live with A if it was after the 12th inning instead of going RIGHT to extra innings with the man on second (and the reason you have this crap IMO is because baseball still can’t solve the issue of 3 1/2+ hour nine inning games), and I could understand B last year and to an extent this year with all the COVID postponements added into regular weather postponements, but it better go after this year. Don’t use freaking pitcher safety as the excuse to put seven inning DH’es in stone after the CBA finally gets signed in 2023.

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I could maybe live with A if it was after the 12th inning instead of going RIGHT to extra innings with the man on second (and the reason you have this crap IMO is because baseball still can’t solve the issue of 3 1/2+ hour nine inning games), and I could understand B last year and to an extent this year with all the COVID postponements added into regular weather postponements, but it better go after this year. Don’t use freaking pitcher safety as the excuse to put seven inning DH’es in stone after the CBA finally gets signed in 2023.

Yeah, I think the 12th inning is a fair starting point to implement the runner at 2nd...still don't love it, but it's a happy medium I guess.  There is NO reason to have 7 IP DHs become a permanent thing...it's not like there's SO many DHs that they've become some major problem...geez, there was a time where they were friggin' scheduled in!  

And yeah, once upon a time games took 2 - 2.5 hours.  Friggin' figure it out!  The guys who drive me the craziest (Wright was one of the bigger offenders) are the hitters who face a pitch, step out, and completely readjust their gloves and take their sweet time getting back into the box...it was even more painful in poor Wright's case, because in later years you knew whenever he got the count to 3 and 2 there was a runner in scoring position, it was gonna be a whiff...so you'd have these long ABs that were often going to end painfully. 

The problem with MLB at the moment is that it often feels like everything happens more slowly than it really needs to.  I would love to take in a season from the 50s and 60s...hell, even before that.  Just to see what it was like.

 

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Same ol fvcking Mets.  Sandy still can’t put together a bullpen to save his life.

And of course why was Jake even taken out to begin with?!  He hadn’t even thrown many pitches.  

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3 minutes ago, Crisis said:

I never watch baseball but I put the Mets game on and holy sh!t.  I needed to come find a conversation.

Welcome!

And that’s that.  Thank you again Sandy.  

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1 hour ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said:

Welcome!

And that’s that.  Thank you again Sandy.  

Sandy deserves what he gets with this garbage pen.  They could have at least feigned interest in improving the pen in March after Lugo got hurt but nope we're good with Familia, Betances, Castro, Loup, Gsellman and Trevor May's our great setup guy!

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I know Sandy finally saw something through (though I think Cohen probably had more to do with Lindor being extended than anyone else), but I am just done with him.  Like you said elsewhere, went into hibernation yet again just like he always does.  Pen is going to be a serious problem, no question.

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And btw are we gonna have to deal with Pillar starting against all lefties over Dom by rote?  The lack of a DH is screwing us and so is the overreliance on 'but muh platoon numbers and muh defense (as if Pillar's a gold glover in CF)'.

The whole explanation of taking Jake out because he had too many 'ups' sounds like Rojas is just either outthinking himself or trying to cover for some analytics type bs.  Especially when he claimed deGrom could have thrown 100 pitches before the game.  So it would have been okay to throw 100 in five taxing innings but six easy innings at under 80 and he's gotta come out?

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1 hour ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said:

Same ol fvcking Mets.  Sandy still can’t put together a bullpen to save his life.

And of course why was Jake even taken out to begin with?!  He hadn’t even thrown many pitches.  

Ace pitcher cruising. 77 pitches. No stress whatsoever on DeGrom. Oh yeah, they pull him. It's so dumb it's sickening.

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