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Just now, mfitz804 said:

He was a continuing asset for about a month. After that he was a departed asset. I would have had no problem giving him a 2 year extension, but that didn’t happen. In that situation, I would rather have something than nothing. 

I guess I've just lost track of this thread but I'm saying I would like to have Zajac back.  It's hard to tell how much value he had as part of this trade but it doesn't seem like it was that much based on the rumored returns for Palmieri in which case I hope the benefits of getting the extra 4th? or whatever outweigh not having him work with our young guys for the rest of the season.   Sharagovich and Kuokkanen looked to be developing nicely along side him and if they did get to squeeze in any more practices, I would think he would be our best candidate for Jack to work on his faceoffs against.    

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Just now, Nicomo said:

Any other year he would have, but unfortunately he was having a career worst season. 

Agreed. That’s the reason. Should’ve done it last year, but who thought his plAy would fall off a cliff this year??

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1 minute ago, aylbert said:

It was but a month ago when most of the board thought he should never see the ice again and was washed up. 

He gets to stay home and a shot at the cup.   It’s a good move for Zajac.   It’s also very like that Zajac would sign with the Islanders  anyway next year for the same reason he waived this year to go.

Losing Palms hurts more on ice.   But if he we can’t extend him, which reports say we tried, then we did terrific getting a 1st back.     
 

Let’s not bitch about it being a “late” first, cause we simply don’t know yet.   And before he netted those recent goals rumors had him going for a 2nd+mid tier prospect.

Mid to late 1st   >> 2nd rounder

 

 

 

 

If there’s someone on the forum who said in earnest that Travis Zajac “should never see the ice again”, they’re stupid. If i said it, I’m stupid. 

But I’d rather watch him limp into the sunset with a fvcking red and black #19 sweater than give him up for whatever the fvck this 4th round pick is going to be. 

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Just now, Lateralous said:

I guess I've just lost track of this thread but I'm saying I would like to have Zajac back.  It's hard to tell how much value he had as part of this trade but it doesn't seem like it was that much based on the rumored returns for Palmieri in which case I hope the benefits of getting the extra 4th? or whatever outweigh not having him work with our young guys for the rest of the season.   Sharagovich and Kuokkanen looked to be developing nicely along side him and if they did get to squeeze in any more practices, I would think he would be our best candidate for Jack to work on his faceoffs against.    

I would LOVE to have him back. No question. 

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1 minute ago, mfitz804 said:

I thought this was pretty obvious. 

I mean he is barely leaving the area...

Exactly. This is the best shot he probably has that allows him to be fairly local. Especially if he plans on retiring or coming back here next year. We know we sure aren't gonna give him a playoff run anytime soon

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Just now, MB3 said:

If there’s someone on the forum who said in earnest that Travis Zajac “should never see the ice again”, they’re stupid. If i said it, I’m stupid. 

But I’d rather watch him limp into the sunset with a fvcking red and black #19 sweater than give him up for whatever the fvck this 4th round pick is going to be. 

He waived the NMC, he didn’t want to stay, he wanted to take his shot. 

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1 minute ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said:

Yeah it’s best case...there was no guarantee right at this moment that they were coming back, and the Devils have long been out of the running for anything resembling relevance.  Get what you can and call it a day.

Maybe I’m wrong, but as far as the rest of this season goes, I almost wonder how this team is going to win a game (even though they’ll likely win one here and there).

You just never know what lies in wait. Blackwood got hot last year, a pleasant surprise. Imagine if Jack Hughes all of a sudden starts converting the chances into points. We'll just have to see what happens. 

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2 minutes ago, MB3 said:

If there’s someone on the forum who said in earnest that Travis Zajac “should never see the ice again”, they’re stupid. If i said it, I’m stupid. 

But I’d rather watch him limp into the sunset with a fvcking red and black #19 sweater than give him up for whatever the fvck this 4th round pick is going to be. 

I admit it, I thought he was toast based on his play earlier this season, before he roared to life when placed on a line centering Sharangovich and Kuokkanen. Hindsight being 20/20, it was probably the recovery from Covid that made Zajac look so sluggish.

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4 minutes ago, mfitz804 said:

He waived the NMC, he didn’t want to stay, he wanted to take his shot. 

Yeah I get that. I’m just really sad. One of my all timers, and I really can’t picture him in another jersey. 

Will wear my zajac jersey to the Pru with pride.

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1 minute ago, MB3 said:

Yeah I get that. I’m just really sad. One of my all timers, and I really can’t picture him in another jersey. 

Will wear my zajac jersey to the Pru with pride.

Sad, yeah. I have that going on too. But I understand it from both sides. 

Zero reason to not wear a Zajac jersey in perpetuity, he’s one of the guys who will always be ok to wear. 

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If anything, this is a loss of two guys who may have eventually passed Zacha in points, so it’s two steps closer to me having to buy a fvcking Zacha jersey. 

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5 minutes ago, MB3 said:

Yeah I get that. I’m just really sad. One of my all timers, and I really can’t picture him in another jersey. 

Will wear my zajac jersey to the Pru with pride.

Re:  the sadness...same here.  Palms I knew was coming.  Zajac feels like more of a shock (though clearly there was a chance that he could be moved).  Seeing him in a friggin’ Isles jersey...don’t even like thinking about it.

I have Zajac’s Brodeur and Elias retirement night jerseys.  I’ll also wear them with pride.

You will be missed Travis.  Thank you for always being a good soldier here.

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1 minute ago, mfitz804 said:

Thinking about it, the crazy part is...this could just be the start. We have 3 expiring defensemen yet, plus Aaron Dell. 

It’s feeling more and more like a rebuild within a rebuild.  

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1 minute ago, mfitz804 said:

Thinking about it, the crazy part is...this could just be the start. We have 3 expiring defensemen yet, plus Aaron Dell. 

the amount of fvcks i give about those players is incomparable to what i feel about travis zajac. trade them all for 6th round picks, fvck i care. 

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25 minutes ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said:

I won’t be surprised if one of them is back next year.  Still just feels like a possibility. 

I will be.  When was the last time we traded away a guy at the deadline and they came back willingly the next year?  For that matter, go league-wide and look at every other team too.  I think you'll see it's not that common at all, and why should it be?  If you played somewhere your entire career, or played for a team for a short time and then just happened to get shipped out at the deadline, or both, why exactly would you want to return the following year, assuming they don't give you a Bonnie and Clyde contract worth stupid money?  Most likely you're going to want to see what the rest of the league is like if you played your entire career for one team (Zajac), or you're going to call sour grapes and want to get money elsewhere on a franchise that thinks you're a part of the puzzle rather than expendable (Palms).  

In rare cases you may have the guy whose life and family situation may make it a priority for him to return to his former team (not wanting to uproot kids. spouses, etc), but I think that's the extreme exception, not the norm.

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3 minutes ago, mfitz804 said:

Thinking about it, the crazy part is...this could just be the start. We have 3 expiring defensemen yet, plus Aaron Dell. 

Murray and Kulikov are playing well. Teams will be interested. 

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11 minutes ago, mfitz804 said:

If anything, this is a loss of two guys who may have eventually passed Zacha in points, so it’s two steps closer to me having to buy a fvcking Zacha jersey. 

I think this was part of Fitzgerald’s rationale for making the deal. 🤣

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1 minute ago, NJDfan1711 said:

I will be.  When was the last time we traded away a guy at the deadline and they came back willingly the next year?  For that matter, go league-wide and look at every other team too.  I think you'll see it's not that common at all, and why should it be?  If you played somewhere your entire career, or played for a team for a short time and then just happened to get shipped out at the deadline, or both, why exactly would you want to return the following year, assuming they don't give you a Bonnie and Clyde contract worth stupid money?  Most likely you're going to want to see what the rest of the league is like if you played your entire career for one team (Zajac), or you're going to call sour grapes and want to get money elsewhere on a franchise that thinks you're a part of the puzzle rather than expendable (Palms).  

In rare cases you may have the guy whose life and family situation may make it a priority for him to return to his former team (not wanting to uproot kids. spouses, etc), but I think that's the extreme exception, not the norm.

I never said it was common.  Just that in these particular cases (and in the current environment), one of them coming back wouldn’t shock me.  

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3 minutes ago, NJDfan1711 said:

I will be.  When was the last time we traded away a guy at the deadline and they came back willingly the next year?  For that matter, go league-wide and look at every other team too.  I think you'll see it's not that common at all, and why should it be?  If you played somewhere your entire career, or played for a team for a short time and then just happened to get shipped out at the deadline, or both, why exactly would you want to return the following year, assuming they don't give you a Bonnie and Clyde contract worth stupid money?  Most likely you're going to want to see what the rest of the league is like if you played your entire career for one team (Zajac), or you're going to call sour grapes and want to get money elsewhere on a franchise that thinks you're a part of the puzzle rather than expendable (Palms).  

In rare cases you may have the guy whose life and family situation may make it a priority for him to return to his former team (not wanting to uproot kids. spouses, etc), but I think that's the extreme exception, not the norm.

it’s been a whole (0) full seasons since that happened. See Vatanen, Sami. 

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