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Owen Power is #1 on my board, but Luke is right behind him at #2 and the team at FC has put Luke at #1 in our past two rankings, if we end up holding the 1st Overall pick I'd want them to take Luke because of the Jack factor on top of him and Power being so close. There definitely isn't a large chasm between Luke and other players, but I will say that Luke is one of the youngest players in this draft, he's nearly a full year younger than Owen Power. If Luke was born a week later, he would have been in the 2022 Draft instead.

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Just now, CommonDreads said:

Owen Power is #1 on my board, but Luke is right behind him at #2 and the team at FC has put Luke at #1 in our past two rankings, if we end up holding the 1st Overall pick I'd want them to take Luke because of the Jack factor on top of him and Power being so close. There definitely isn't a large chasm between Luke and other players, but I will say that Luke is one of the youngest players in this draft, he's nearly a full year younger than Owen Power. If Luke was born a week later, he would have been in the 2022 Draft instead.

So if we pick 5th, odds are Luke will be long gone by the time we get to pick someone?

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4 minutes ago, mfitz804 said:

So if we pick 5th, odds are Luke will be long gone by the time we get to pick someone?

I'd wager Luke is gone before 5th, but won't say it's impossible he's there. Simon Edvinsson is a big wild card that it seems like NHL scouts are very high, he was 2nd on Bob McKenzie's last poll, he's someone I could see getting taken ahead of Hughes. Throw in some guys like Clarke, Matty Beniers, Eklund, Guenther, and there are scenarios where Luke could be there at 5th Overall.

This draft is just very hard to predict, I don't want to say anything definitive because it could all just go to sh!t on draft night, but obviously I'd love to win one of the two lotto spots so we can get a more guaranteed crack at Luke. Owen Power is the only player I feel like I can say with confidence is going to in the Top 3, after that the draft really opens up, there's so little consensus this year.

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Just now, CommonDreads said:

I'd wager Luke is gone before 5th, but won't say it's impossible he's there. Simon Edvinsson is a big wild card that it seems like NHL scouts are very high, he was 2nd on Bob McKenzie's last poll, he's someone I could see getting taken ahead of Hughes. Throw in some guys like Clarke, Matty Beniers, Eklund, Guenther, and there are scenarios where Luke could be there at 5th Overall.

This draft is just very hard to predict, I don't want to say anything definitive because it could all just go to sh!t on draft night, but obviously I'd love to win one of the two lotto spots so we can get a more guaranteed crack at Luke.

Sure. But if in fact he is THAT highly regarded, picking him at 5, if available, should be a no brainer no matter whose brother he is. That’s the info I was looking for. 

So we should just win the fvcking lottery again and control our own fate. 

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3 minutes ago, mfitz804 said:

Sure. But if in fact he is THAT highly regarded, picking him at 5, if available, should be a no brainer no matter whose brother he is. That’s the info I was looking for. 

So we should just win the fvcking lottery again and control our own fate. 

Yeah for sure, I think it's a no brainer for this team to take Luke if he's there at #4 or #5. On top of being Jack's brother, he just has a lot of attributes this team should be looking to add. He's not as dynamic or Jack or Quinn, but he's still a fantastic skater and can move the puck out his zone easily, and he's not a shrimp either, kid is already 6'2" at just 17.

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8 minutes ago, mfitz804 said:

Sure. But if in fact he is THAT highly regarded, picking him at 5, if available, should be a no brainer no matter whose brother he is. That’s the info I was looking for. 

So we should just win the fvcking lottery again and control our own fate. 

You don't give people here enough credit lol. This isn't Facebook, no one would be advocating using a top 10 pick on a guy just because he was a Hughes if he wasn't thought to be in that talent range. 

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3 minutes ago, devlman said:

It’s official, Jack wants us to select Luke.

If the Devils decide that Luke is on the top of their list, do they ask Jack to be at the draft to announce the pick? 

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6 minutes ago, NJDevils1214 said:

You don't give people here enough credit lol. This isn't Facebook, no one would be advocating using a top 10 pick on a guy just because he was a Hughes if he wasn't thought to be in that talent range. 

Ehh, I think that argument has been made. And it’s also a big difference taking him at 5 if he should be taken at 10 and passing over other guys based on his name. 

If he is so well regarded that he is either #1 or #2, different story. Also means without winning the lottery we probably won’t get him. 

3 minutes ago, NJDevils1214 said:

If the Devils decide that Luke is on the top of their list, do they ask Jack to be at the draft to announce the pick? 

Judging from the way he speaks in interviews, I wouldn’t pick that kid to stand at a podium lol. 

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9 minutes ago, mfitz804 said:

Ehh, I think that argument has been made. And it’s also a big difference taking him at 5 if he should be taken at 10 and passing over other guys based on his name. 

If he is so well regarded that he is either #1 or #2, different story. Also means without winning the lottery we probably won’t get him. 

Judging from the way he speaks in interviews, I wouldn’t pick that kid to stand at a podium lol. 

Definitely don't think that NJ has to win the lottery to have any hope of getting him. Power, Clarke, Beniers, Eklund, Johnson, Edvinsson, Wallstedt, and Hughes are all in the conversation of top 5 picks. As long as we don't fall lower than 5 or 6 there is at least a chance. 

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If Devils stay in top-5 they will draft top-3 D, great two way center Beniers or better part of duo Eklund-Holtz. Guenther, Johnson and Lysell are great options too. 
If Devils are 5 and Hughes is available - pick him no matter what did Jack says. If Devils have top-2 pick... there are a lot of questions.  

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1 hour ago, NJDevils1214 said:

Definitely don't think that NJ has to win the lottery to have any hope of getting him. Power, Clarke, Beniers, Eklund, Johnson, Edvinsson, Wallstedt, and Hughes are all in the conversation of top 5 picks. As long as we don't fall lower than 5 or 6 there is at least a chance. 

Should be an interesting draft, then. 

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Id be happy with Clarke.. Hughes most likely is gone due to pure skating.  there's no can't miss defensive man in this draft.. Edvinssonn sounds like a better severson.. Hope our scouts guess right

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6 hours ago, NJDevils1214 said:

If the Devils decide that Luke is on the top of their list, do they ask Jack to be at the draft to announce the pick? 

Jack Hughes: "The New Jersey Devils are happy to select... from the USHL. LUKE HUGHES! LET'S GO BABY!!!!" 

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2 minutes ago, SterioDesign said:

Also. Say we draft Luke.

Then Vancouver kind of see the writing on the wall and call us offering Q. for Smith + something. You guys do it?

Yeah I would do it, but Vancouver isn’t making that call for a long time. Quinn is 20 years old lol. He won’t be a UFA for years.

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2 minutes ago, SterioDesign said:

Also. Say we draft Luke.

Then Vancouver kind of see the writing on the wall and call us offering Q. for Smith + something. You guys do it?

Depends on the something. 

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1 minute ago, MadDog2020 said:

Yeah I would do it, but Vancouver isn’t making that call for a long time. Quinn is 20 years old lol. He won’t be a UFA for years.

21. He’s two years older than Jack. But yeah, Vancouver isn’t trading him without asking for a king’s ransom in return. Idk what we’d have to add to Smith, but it would probably be too much. 

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2 minutes ago, Nicomo said:

21. He’s two years older than Jack. But yeah, Vancouver isn’t trading him without asking for a king’s ransom in return. Idk what we’d have to add to Smith, but it would probably be too much. 

It would be a lot, yes. That’s why you wait until he’s almost a UFA in this scenario. There’s no way they’d trade him as a ‘surrender’ move like seven years before he can become a UFA just because his brothers are here lol

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1 minute ago, MadDog2020 said:

It would be a lot, yes. That’s why you wait until he’s almost a UFA in this scenario. There’s no way they’d trade him as a ‘surrender’ move like seven years before he can become a UFA just because his brothers are here lol

Yeah, that’s not happening for a long time. 

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For some reason I doubt the brothers will have any desire to play with each other until maybe the end of their careers. They probably get compared to each other all of the time and for now would prefer to make a name for themselves on their own.
 

If we happen to draft Luke I think that would different but I don’t see any of them demanding a trade to play with their brothers any time soon. 

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1 hour ago, Jerzey said:

For some reason I doubt the brothers will have any desire to play with each other until maybe the end of their careers. They probably get compared to each other all of the time and for now would prefer to make a name for themselves on their own.
 

If we happen to draft Luke I think that would different but I don’t see any of them demanding a trade to play with their brothers any time soon. 

Exactly right. 

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1 hour ago, Jerzey said:

For some reason I doubt the brothers will have any desire to play with each other until maybe the end of their careers. They probably get compared to each other all of the time and for now would prefer to make a name for themselves on their own.
 

If we happen to draft Luke I think that would different but I don’t see any of them demanding a trade to play with their brothers any time soon. 

Yeah. I love my brother. Wish him the best. I am happy to live with him at a distance of a thousand km.

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