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1 hour ago, Lateralous said:

Am I the only one that wants nothing to do with Laine?   IMO he’s too much of an enigma to be one of your top salary guys.  

Same, already traded once and then had issues in Columbus too. He reeks of Hall 2.0 with a possible video game addiction added to it as well.

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1 hour ago, Lateralous said:

Am I the only one that wants nothing to do with Laine?   IMO he’s too much of an enigma to be one of your top salary guys.  

 

22 minutes ago, Satans Hockey said:

Same, already traded once and then had issues in Columbus too. He reeks of Hall 2.0 with a possible video game addiction added to it as well.

Its a tough call kid can produce points at a top clip. And has done it for four years.. We need to gamble

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57 minutes ago, EdgeControl said:

 

Its a tough call kid can produce points at a top clip. And has done it for four years.. We need to gamble

Hasn’t really done it since his first two seasons.  

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We don't need to gamble.  I don't understand this perspective.  We already won the lottery twice.  Let their balls drop before we decide we need to trade them.

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14 minutes ago, Crisis said:

We don't need to gamble.  I don't understand this perspective.  We already won the lottery twice.  Let their balls drop before we decide we need to trade them.

Nico’s will need extra time after Hedman.

 

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6 hours ago, Lateralous said:

Am I the only one that wants nothing to do with Laine?   IMO he’s too much of an enigma to be one of your top salary guys.  

All depends on the cost.

8M+ / year guy?  No thanks.  But in this flat cap world, buying low and maybe hooking him into a 7M AAV with some term sounds good to me.  A pure shooter on Jack or Nico's wing?  Me gusta.

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4 hours ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said:

Hasn’t really done it since his first two seasons.  

63 points in 68 games in 2019/2020   last year was the anomaly. But yeah the trend is a bit concerning. Again we have nobody now near his scoring talent. But you better do your due diligence 

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3 hours ago, Crisis said:

We don't need to gamble.  I don't understand this perspective.  We already won the lottery twice.  Let their balls drop before we decide we need to trade them.

Trade who? Laine is a free agent,.. im not trading nico or jack.. but if you're waiting for our kids to score 30 more goals a year good luck with that.. we need a scoring forward.. and kucherov or  pasta aren't coming here. Im talking about gambling on FAs.  Everyone hates the PK deal, newsflash he our best defenseman. We went to hell  when he got hurt 

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This has probably been beat to death already but if we get to 4th overall and Luke is off the board - do you call Columbus and see whether that gets you one of Jones or Laine?

Obviously wouldn't have much of a chance to negotiate a potential extension.. 

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1 hour ago, Devilsfan118 said:

All depends on the cost.

8M+ / year guy?  No thanks.  But in this flat cap world, buying low and maybe hooking him into a 7M AAV with some term sounds good to me.  A pure shooter on Jack or Nico's wing?  Me gusta.

A million dollars a year would make or break that deal for you? That’s nuts. 

7 minutes ago, Devilsfan118 said:

This has probably been beat to death already but if we get to 4th overall and Luke is off the board - do you call Columbus and see whether that gets you one of Jones or Laine?

Obviously wouldn't have much of a chance to negotiate a potential extension.. 

The answer is obviously “not without an extension” and I can’t see it all coming together fast enough for that to be feasible. 

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21 minutes ago, mfitz804 said:

A million dollars a year would make or break that deal for you? That’s nuts. 

The answer is obviously “not without an extension” and I can’t see it all coming together fast enough for that to be feasible. 

What would laine want in terms of years?    Hell, 3 or 4 years id give him 9 or 10+,

7 or more im not buying that high.

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3 minutes ago, EdgeControl said:

What would laine want in terms of years?    Hell, 3 or 4 years id give him 9 or 10+,

7 or more im not buying that high.

He’s 23, he’s getting a 7 year deal from someone, if he wants it. 

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1 hour ago, Devilsfan118 said:

This has probably been beat to death already but if we get to 4th overall and Luke is off the board - do you call Columbus and see whether that gets you one of Jones or Laine?

Obviously wouldn't have much of a chance to negotiate a potential extension.. 

It isn't like this draft should be Luke or bust for NJ. There's reason to believe the other options are promising as well. 

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1 hour ago, mfitz804 said:

A million dollars a year would make or break that deal for you? That’s nuts. 

The answer is obviously “not without an extension” and I can’t see it all coming together fast enough for that to be feasible. 

I mean, you have to draw the line somewhere. 7/8/9, my number is somewhere in there. Closer to 7 than 9 for sure for a one dimensional player, albeit a really good one.

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26 minutes ago, NJDevils1214 said:

It isn't like this draft should be Luke or bust for NJ. There's reason to believe the other options are promising as well. 

True, but any player we pick this year is probably at least two or three years out still from sniffing the big leagues right?

We keep talking about our window to compete here, and by the time this pick makes the team you've got Jack, Nico, Smith off their ELCs and other talent on their bridge deals. 

Just saying, a trade for a proven NHLer might make sense.

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21 minutes ago, Devilsfan118 said:

True, but any player we pick this year is probably at least two or three years out still from sniffing the big leagues right?

We keep talking about our window to compete here, and by the time this pick makes the team you've got Jack, Nico, Smith off their ELCs and other talent on their bridge deals. 

Just saying, a trade for a proven NHLer might make sense.

Given that the Hall, Subban, Palmieri senior core didn’t work out, I don’t think it matters for our window that Jack, Nico etc will be getting paid.  If we get to where we want to be, they’ll become the senior core.   It will be important to win while we have the second wave of Holtz, Mercer and our 4th overall making minimum wage.   

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22 minutes ago, Devilsfan118 said:

True, but any player we pick this year is probably at least two or three years out still from sniffing the big leagues right?

We keep talking about our window to compete here, and by the time this pick makes the team you've got Jack, Nico, Smith off their ELCs and other talent on their bridge deals. 

Just saying, a trade for a proven NHLer might make sense.

They're in their early 20s, not pushing 30. Whoever he is, if he takes a couple years, Nico will be 24, Jack will be 22, and the pick will be around 20. The timeline still aligns with the window to compete...we don't have Patrick Kane or some other veteran we need to push the timeline up for.  

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12 hours ago, vadvlfan said:

IMO Hughes/Nice are going no where. Fitz is seen in the locker room (talking to Amanda Stein) with  #13 & #86 jerseys right behind him?  

The idea that the Devils would trade foundation players in their early 20s for anyone just mystifies me. When has any team done something like that? The Bruins! And every deal pretty much sucked for them.

We're going to build a team by trading Nico Hischier for Jack Eichel? That doesn't make any sense to me. Hischier was named captain last year. That should tell you what management thinks about him. 

I'm possibly on board for trading for Patrik Laine, but the Devils don't have to trade Nico Hischier to get him, nor should they. Nico may ultimately fail, but it is way too early to pull the plug.

 

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5 minutes ago, Jerrydevil said:

Yeah, I really don't know either. 

He didn’t exactly dominate this past year, I’m sure he’s hoping it’s just a blip and it’s back to normal next year. 

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2 hours ago, NJDevils1214 said:

It isn't like this draft should be Luke or bust for NJ. There's reason to believe the other options are promising as well. 

Agreed. If Hughes is gone Clarke is probably still there. In fact, I kind of think it’s likely to be 1) Power, 2) Beniers, 3) Hughes. Laine would be nice, but this is the draft to come away with a top blue chip prospect for the blue line. 

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